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agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 21 Apr 2018, 20:42
by jamamb
i think, if you disagree tell me why
similarish results too. although kaybayel did better vs chisore then parker did vs ruiz. then kaybayel today destryoed a guy a thought got the better of dimitrrenko, who is one of parkers best clear wins
kaybayel has shown some variety too, as he boxed and move to beat chisora, but in most fights is a tank like agressor.
not the biggest, but i like this young turkish heavy
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 21 Apr 2018, 20:43
by gilgamesh
Not sure if he's quite around Parker's level, but I'd say the wins over Dereck Chisora and the win today certainly elevate him into the Top 15.
He's certainly in the mix where one or two more significant wins could see him in a title fight.
For now I think it'd be the best career move for him to just be the European Champion and further develop his abilities against that level before taking on the cream of the crop.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 14:31
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: ↑21 Apr 2018, 20:42
i think, if you disagree tell me why
similarish results too. although kaybayel did better vs chisore then parker did vs ruiz. then kaybayel today destryoed a guy a thought got the better of dimitrrenko, who is one of parkers best clear wins
kaybayel has shown some variety too, as he boxed and move to beat chisora, but in most fights is a tank like agressor.
not the biggest, but i like this young turkish heavy
I'd have to see him against the next level of competition, but I really like Kaybayel. I think he can make some noise. Put a gun to my head, and I think he can beat Parker if he brings his "A" game. He's tough and executes pretty crisply.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 15:10
by punchoutsb
In this barren landscape there are many fighters around Parkers level; they just haven't had a chance to prove it yet.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 15:22
by Gnome
He impressed me last night, but I don't think he's up to Parker's level right now. A close win over an unmotivated Chisora and a guy who went life and death with Dimitrenko, who Parker pasted, doesn't cut the mustard compared to Parker's record.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 15:32
by funso banjo baby
Kabayel looks fairly good.
I'm not sure about Parker anymore.....but kabayel is a decent euro campaigner for sure.
Dillian would beat him
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 15:53
by Rob3_142
I'm not saying that Kabayel would beat Parker, but believe it would be a competitive fight. It's very nice to see some prospects coming towards the top 30 now. Out with the old and in with the new, and all that jazz.
I'm hoping that it will result in a more competitive top 30, rather than the dross that has been served up over the last 30 years.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 16:14
by tiny_acres
Rob3_142 wrote: ↑22 Apr 2018, 15:53
I'm not saying that Kabayel would beat Parker, but believe it would be a competitive fight. It's very nice to see some prospects coming towards the top 30 now. Out with the old and in with the new, and all that jazz.
I'm hoping that it will result in a more competitive top 30, rather than the dross that has been served up over the last 30 years.
I actually agree with you. I think Kabayel is a solid top 10 contender. I think he holds his own at this point with anyone not named Joshua, Wilder Ortiz or Povetkin.
He beat Chisora way more clearly than Whyte did. The guy is solid
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 20:50
by jamamb
Gnome wrote: ↑22 Apr 2018, 15:22
He impressed me last night, but I don't think he's up to Parker's level right now. A close win over an unmotivated Chisora and a guy who went life and death with Dimitrenko, who Parker pasted, doesn't cut the mustard compared to Parker's record.
on the other hand, dimitrenko went life and death with that guy. dimmy and that guy were pretty much equal and kaybayel won the other night every bit as easily as parker did vs dimmy. i dont think chisoras any worse then ruiz, who i thought beat parker
but parker did also beat takam , he has more on his record, but i think kabayels actually just as good or very close to it
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 04:31
by Gnome
jamamb wrote: ↑22 Apr 2018, 20:50
Gnome wrote: ↑22 Apr 2018, 15:22
He impressed me last night, but I don't think he's up to Parker's level right now. A close win over an unmotivated Chisora and a guy who went life and death with Dimitrenko, who Parker pasted, doesn't cut the mustard compared to Parker's record.
on the other hand, dimitrenko went life and death with that guy. dimmy and that guy were pretty much equal and kaybayel won the other night every bit as easily as parker did vs dimmy. i dont think chisoras any worse then ruiz, who i thought beat parker
but parker did also beat takam , he has more on his record, but i think kabayels actually just as good or very close to it
Hopefully the two of them can fight so ee can find out.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 06:52
by KiwiRider
Gnome wrote: ↑22 Apr 2018, 15:22
He impressed me last night, but I don't think he's up to Parker's level right now. A close win over an unmotivated Chisora and a guy who went life and death with Dimitrenko, who Parker pasted, doesn't cut the mustard compared to Parker's record.
Thank you
Parker is a much more lively opponent than Del Boy. He will also learn in defeat. Put on a good defensive showing against AJ, if he teams that up with his usual offence, he belongs in the top #5. Kowbell doesn't.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 07:41
by Boxing Writer
jamamb wrote: ↑21 Apr 2018, 20:42
i think, if you disagree tell me why
similarish results too. although kaybayel did better vs chisore then parker did vs ruiz. then kaybayel today destryoed a guy a thought got the better of dimitrrenko, who is one of parkers best clear wins
kaybayel has shown some variety too, as he boxed and move to beat chisora, but in most fights is a tank like agressor.
not the biggest, but i like this young turkish heavy
Ruiz is better than Chisora. And it was motivated Ruiz in the fight against Parker, while Chisora looked lethargic and disinterested against Kabayel. I don't think Kabayel would last 5 rounds against Joshua.
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 07:43
by jamamb
not sure why ruiz is better, ppl only seem to rate him on the problems he gave parker (i thought he clearly won), the same ruiz had issues with liakhovichs corpse
Re: agit kaybayel is good, at least around parkers level
Posted: 23 Apr 2018, 08:03
by Boxing Writer
jamamb wrote: ↑23 Apr 2018, 07:43
not sure why ruiz is better, ppl only seem to rate him on the problems he gave parker (i thought he clearly won), the same ruiz had issues with liakhovichs corpse
Ruiz has better fundamentals, handspeed and power. Chisora has better head movement. Surely, Ruiz looked awful against shot Liakhovich, but so did Chisora a couple of times when he was unmotivated/disinterested. Just watch his fight against Hector Alfredo Avila - a bum, whom green Joshua and average Costa Junior demolished in 1 round, lasted 9 rounds against Derek.