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Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53
by gilgamesh
So earlier today on the Adamek vs Abell card there was a fighter named Damian Jonak.

Jonak entered the ring with a 39-0-1 record, and picked up his 40th win today. Now that's quite a record on paper to have with such little fanfare.

Any other examples of fighters like this with 30 or more wins that get little to no attention from Boxing fans in general?

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 21 Apr 2018, 23:56
by Evander
Konstantin Ponomarev 33-0

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 21 Apr 2018, 23:58
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:56 Konstantin Ponomarev 33-0
That's a pretty good example. I was at least aware of him though a little bit though I've admittedly not seen him in action, but yeah he's under the radar completely for most people.

I'm only aware of him as a fringe contender with a shiny record.

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 00:02
by Evander
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 on paper to have with such little fanfare.
Fit's the criteria. :maybe:

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 00:04
by gilgamesh
Evander wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 00:02
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 on paper to have with such little fanfare.
Fit's the criteria. :maybe:
Yes certainly. Wasn't trying to sound critical of your post.

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 00:05
by jamamb
tassana sapatan whose 46-0 at only 24

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568482


also that munguia guy who was rumored for ggg is around 30-0 but id hardly heard of him, i bet hes much more known in b mexico though

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 00:08
by jamamb
also, to go back a bit, donnell holmes was like 35-0 and no one gave a sh!t about him

when brian minto took his 0 it was hardly mentioned and no one rated it as a good win for minto

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 00:09
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 00:05 tassana sapatan whose 46-0 at only 24

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568482


also that munguia guy who was rumored for ggg is around 30-0 but id hardly heard of him, i bet hes much more known in b mexico though
:TU:

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 00:21
by Best Coast
One reason they usually dont get much notice is that they are often bottom-feeders who feast on scrubs their entire careers.

One who quickly comes to mind is a guy named Don Steele in the 1990s. He racked up a string of 30+ consecutive KOs against scrubs and tomato cans but got starched the first time he faced a quality foe. :lol:

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/7454

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 00:42
by Lackeos
I feel like bottomfeeders such as Thomas Damgaard and Donnell Holmes were more common a decade ago than they are today. The heavyweight division used to be totally full of bottomfeeders like JD Chapman, Donnell Holmes, Roman Greenberg, Malik Scott, and a few other guys at the same time.

I went looking for some of the worst bottomfeeders between 135 - 154 pounds who were undefeated and outside the top 20. I came up with...
Juan Manuel Witt: 33-0-2, ranked #135
Arturo Lopez Castro: 24-0, ranked #244
Emiliano Marsili: 36-0-1, ranked #33
Carlos Ramirez Diaz: 26-0, ranked #30

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 03:08
by dagilechia
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 So earlier today on the Adamek vs Abell card there was a fighter named Damian Jonak.

Jonak entered the ring with a 39-0-1 record, and picked up his 40th win today. Now that's quite a record on paper to have with such little fanfare.

Any other examples of fighters like this with 30 or more wins that get little to no attention from Boxing fans in general?
a lot of boxing fans in Poland are joking of him, calling him a ''TBE'' or saying that Mayweathers record is in danger, or that Canelo was so scared with Jonaks comeback that he decided to use peds

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 03:42
by sweetviolenturge
Lackeos wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 00:42 I feel like bottomfeeders such as Thomas Damgaard and Donnell Holmes were more common a decade ago than they are today. The heavyweight division used to be totally full of bottomfeeders like JD Chapman, Donnell Holmes, Roman Greenberg, Malik Scott, and a few other guys at the same time.

I went looking for some of the worst bottomfeeders between 135 - 154 pounds who were undefeated and outside the top 20. I came up with...
Juan Manuel Witt: 33-0-2, ranked #135
Arturo Lopez Castro: 24-0, ranked #244
Emiliano Marsili: 36-0-1, ranked #33
Carlos Ramirez Diaz: 26-0, ranked #30
Although his 35-0-1 record was no doubt a bit inflated before he lost to Derek Chisora, I wouldn't lump him in with the JD Chapmans & Donnel Holmes of the world. Unlike those men, Scott built his record on a fair amount of useful journeymen & a handful of fringe guys like Chas. Shufford, Bowie Tupou & had the draw with Glazkov. No great shakes perhaps, but eons beyond what Chapman, Holmes or Don Steele ever did.

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 07:31
by Boxing Prospect
Lackeos wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 00:42 I feel like bottomfeeders such as Thomas Damgaard and Donnell Holmes were more common a decade ago than they are today. The heavyweight division used to be totally full of bottomfeeders like JD Chapman, Donnell Holmes, Roman Greenberg, Malik Scott, and a few other guys at the same time.

I went looking for some of the worst bottomfeeders between 135 - 154 pounds who were undefeated and outside the top 20. I came up with...
Juan Manuel Witt: 33-0-2, ranked #135
Arturo Lopez Castro: 24-0, ranked #244
Emiliano Marsili: 36-0-1, ranked #33
Carlos Ramirez Diaz: 26-0, ranked #30
A little harsh on Marsili, who holds good wins over Derry Matthews (and looked damn good back then!), Luca Gaicon was regarded a top prospect when he stopped him as well...just a shame he never got a bit break out fight

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 07:45
by jamamb
ya marseli was pretty solid, at least euro title level

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 08:40
by tigermoth87
jamamb wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 00:05 tassana sapatan whose 46-0 at only 24

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568482


also that munguia guy who was rumored for ggg is around 30-0 but id hardly heard of him, i bet hes much more known in b mexico though


I like how he's got a win quite recently over somebody who is literally unknown .

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 10:58
by Rob Magic
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/536325

Think he's retired now.
Never really fought out of Brazil.

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/383177

Mayweather's record is in danger.

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 11:37
by Stuarty
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 So earlier today on the Adamek vs Abell card there was a fighter named Damian Jonak.

Jonak entered the ring with a 39-0-1 record, and picked up his 40th win today. Now that's quite a record on paper to have with such little fanfare.

Any other examples of fighters like this with 30 or more wins that get little to no attention from Boxing fans in general?
He fought an old mate of mine. Said he was pretty handy. Been inactive though.

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 12:20
by dagilechia
Stuarty wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 11:37
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 So earlier today on the Adamek vs Abell card there was a fighter named Damian Jonak.

Jonak entered the ring with a 39-0-1 record, and picked up his 40th win today. Now that's quite a record on paper to have with such little fanfare.

Any other examples of fighters like this with 30 or more wins that get little to no attention from Boxing fans in general?
He fought an old mate of mine. Said he was pretty handy. Been inactive though.
Jonak was an EBU level. could get a world titleshot, he would be very likely stopped though. no way he would win. he had to fight Rabchenko if i remember well, i do not remember why he didnt though. i remember also him saying his goal is to fight Lara or Canelo ( :lol: ). also he was once ranked #2 (the 1# spot was vacant at the time) in WBA when the champion was Austin Trout. i think Jonaks best win was against Jackson Osei Bonsu

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 12:34
by Stuarty
dagilechia wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 12:20
Stuarty wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 11:37
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 So earlier today on the Adamek vs Abell card there was a fighter named Damian Jonak.

Jonak entered the ring with a 39-0-1 record, and picked up his 40th win today. Now that's quite a record on paper to have with such little fanfare.

Any other examples of fighters like this with 30 or more wins that get little to no attention from Boxing fans in general?
He fought an old mate of mine. Said he was pretty handy. Been inactive though.
Jonak was an EBU level. could get a world titleshot, he would be very likely stopped though. no way he would win. he had to fight Rabchenko if i remember well, i do not remember why he didnt though. i remember also him saying his goal is to fight Lara or Canelo ( :lol: ). also he was once ranked #2 (the 1# spot was vacant at the time) in WBA when the champion was Austin Trout. i think Jonaks best win was against Jackson Osei Bonsu
Times running out for him. I hadn't realised he was 34!

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 14:59
by imaioral
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 So earlier today on the Adamek vs Abell card there was a fighter named Damian Jonak.

Jonak entered the ring with a 39-0-1 record, and picked up his 40th win today. Now that's quite a record on paper to have with such little fanfare.

Any other examples of fighters like this with 30 or more wins that get little to no attention from Boxing fans in general?
The guy came back after 3 years and with a D class opponent, quite respectable, counting that these kind of opponents are normal for him.

The one I would like to fight somebody with quality is Kanat Islam and this guy that seem away/retired from boxing: http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/571019

Others that must have a nice test are:
http://boxrec.com/boxer/515150
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/474627
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/428710

And the worst undefeeders are:

http://boxrec.com/boxer/674375
http://boxrec.com/boxer/171565
http://boxrec.com/boxer/633197

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 15:08
by dagilechia
imaioral wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 14:59
gilgamesh wrote: 21 Apr 2018, 23:53 So earlier today on the Adamek vs Abell card there was a fighter named Damian Jonak.

Jonak entered the ring with a 39-0-1 record, and picked up his 40th win today. Now that's quite a record on paper to have with such little fanfare.

Any other examples of fighters like this with 30 or more wins that get little to no attention from Boxing fans in general?
The guy came back after 3 years and with a D class opponent, quite respectable, counting that these kind of opponents are normal for him.

The one I would like to fight somebody with quality is Kanat Islam and this guy that seem away/retired from boxing: http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/571019

Others that must have a nice test are:
http://boxrec.com/boxer/515150
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/474627
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/428710

And the worst undefeeders are:

http://boxrec.com/boxer/674375
http://boxrec.com/boxer/171565
http://boxrec.com/boxer/633197
Jonak was scheduled to fight Lukas Ndafoluma who isnt a top fighter too, but definitely better than this Argentinian

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 22 Apr 2018, 21:08
by jamamb
good mention on dusty harris, 30-0-1 by 22 but even in his draw vs mike dallas i thought he was lucky. dude has fallen off the rader now after some early push and a lot of bad opponents

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 20 May 2018, 18:40
by digzee
Boxing Prospect wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 07:31
Lackeos wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 00:42 I feel like bottomfeeders such as Thomas Damgaard and Donnell Holmes were more common a decade ago than they are today. The heavyweight division used to be totally full of bottomfeeders like JD Chapman, Donnell Holmes, Roman Greenberg, Malik Scott, and a few other guys at the same time.

I went looking for some of the worst bottomfeeders between 135 - 154 pounds who were undefeated and outside the top 20. I came up with...
Juan Manuel Witt: 33-0-2, ranked #135
Arturo Lopez Castro: 24-0, ranked #244
Emiliano Marsili: 36-0-1, ranked #33
Carlos Ramirez Diaz: 26-0, ranked #30
A little harsh on Marsili, who holds good wins over Derry Matthews (and looked damn good back then!), Luca Gaicon was regarded a top prospect when he stopped him as well...just a shame he never got a bit break out fight
Hey BP, have you seen much of Tassana Sanpattan http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568482 ? How good is he? Will he win the WBC title next month?

Re: Unbeaten and Unnoticed

Posted: 20 May 2018, 19:37
by Boxing Prospect
digzee wrote: 20 May 2018, 18:40
Boxing Prospect wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 07:31
Lackeos wrote: 22 Apr 2018, 00:42 I feel like bottomfeeders such as Thomas Damgaard and Donnell Holmes were more common a decade ago than they are today. The heavyweight division used to be totally full of bottomfeeders like JD Chapman, Donnell Holmes, Roman Greenberg, Malik Scott, and a few other guys at the same time.

I went looking for some of the worst bottomfeeders between 135 - 154 pounds who were undefeated and outside the top 20. I came up with...
Juan Manuel Witt: 33-0-2, ranked #135
Arturo Lopez Castro: 24-0, ranked #244
Emiliano Marsili: 36-0-1, ranked #33
Carlos Ramirez Diaz: 26-0, ranked #30
A little harsh on Marsili, who holds good wins over Derry Matthews (and looked damn good back then!), Luca Gaicon was regarded a top prospect when he stopped him as well...just a shame he never got a bit break out fight
Hey BP, have you seen much of Tassana Sanpattan http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/568482 ? How good is he? Will he win the WBC title next month?
To me he is Petch Sor Chitpattana... And seen quite a bit of him, he's very young but very very very padded record. Pretty limited and will get battered unless he's a lot better than he's shown.