BoxRec

1. (1.) Anthony Joshua
2. (4.) Carl Frampton
3. (2.) George Groves
4. (3.) Billy Joe Saunders
5. (7.) James DeGale
6. (5.) Lee Selby
7. (6.) Ryan Burnett
8. (8.) Anthony Crolla
9. (9.) Kell Brook
10. (10.) Tyson Fury

11. (11.) Tony Bellew
12. (12.) Jamie McDonnell
13. (13.) Luke Campbell
14. (14.) Chris Eubank Jr.
15. (15.) Khalid Yafai
16. (16.) Callum Smith
17. (17.) Terry Flanagan
18. (18.) Josh Warrington
19. (19.) Scott Quigg
20. (23.) Amir Khan

21. (20.) Dillian Whyte
22. (21.) Josh Taylor
23. (22.) Gavin McDonnell
24. (24.) Martin Murray
25. (25.) Ricky Burns
26. (26.) Sam Eggington
27. (27.) Liam Smith
28. (28.) Matty Askin
29. (29.) Rocky Fielding
30. (30.) Paul Butler

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

If Anthony Crolla lost to Gary Sykes for a 3rd time would he fall below Kell Brook?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 11:15 If Anthony Crolla lost to Gary Sykes for a 3rd time would he fall below Kell Brook?

Yes.

What was the point of your question?

how did you rank framptons win over donaire? like, did you see it as an impressive high level win that moved him up, or did he move up more out of staying active and accumulation and on not much being in groves/bjs previously being higher?

i ask because although donaire has a name i really dont rate him that high at all these days (dogboe would smash him walters style btw), but overall i can certainly see the case frampton has for that ranking

Can't argue too much. Seems a fair list

Fury should've been left out but that was never gonna happen.

Horse wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 11:36

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 11:15 If Anthony Crolla lost to Gary Sykes for a 3rd time would he fall below Kell Brook?

Yes.

What was the point of your question?

Perhaps Crolla's 6 losses and 3 draws suggest he's not as good as Brook.

Who is Martin Murray’s best win?

forcefraser wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:51 Who is Martin Murray’s best win?

God question! His best wins have been at domestic level/slightly above domestic level(ish).

Spada
Rosado
Bursak?

To be fair to him he arguable beat Martinez in Argentina and also ran AA and Sturm very close.

Murray too low.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:40

Horse wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 11:36

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 11:15 If Anthony Crolla lost to Gary Sykes for a 3rd time would he fall below Kell Brook?

Yes.

What was the point of your question?

Perhaps Crolla's 6 losses and 3 draws suggest he's not as good as Brook.

Brook does have a deeper record than Crolla in fairness.

jamamb wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:36 how did you rank framptons win over donaire? like, did you see it as an impressive high level win that moved him up, or did he move up more out of staying active and accumulation and on not much being in groves/bjs previously being higher?

i ask because although donaire has a name i really dont rate him that high at all these days (dogboe would smash him walters style btw), but overall i can certainly see the case frampton has for that ranking

Donaire is obviously not what he was, but it is still a decent world/fringe world level win.

Frampton was not too far behind the other two before the fight and the win was enough to put him ahead of them considering the rest of his record.

Groves and Saunders might overtake him again with their next wins. There's not much in it at the moment.

Stuarty wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:39 Can't argue too much. Seems a fair list

Fury should've been left out but that was never gonna happen.

You don't think taking him out a month before he was scheduled to fight, after leaving him in for all this time, might be a bit silly?

All it takes to be a Top 10 British P4P'er is to get fat, and not fight for over 2 years.

I'm surprised a lot of the fellas that frequent the local pubs ain't ranked.

Horse wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 14:16

Stuarty wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:39 Can't argue too much. Seems a fair list

Fury should've been left out but that was never gonna happen.

You don't think taking him out a month before he was scheduled to fight, after leaving him in for all this time, might be a bit silly?

Leaving him all this time is the silly part.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:40Perhaps Crolla's 6 losses and 3 draws suggest he's not as good as Brook.

Crolla's win over Burns is better than any win that Brook has had since beating Porter almost 4 years ago.

Brook has a better record than Crolla, but it isn't leagues above and he really hasn't done much lately.

forcefraser wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:51 Who is Martin Murray’s best win?

Sergio Martinez.

Horse wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 14:46

BigDoofus wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:40Perhaps Crolla's 6 losses and 3 draws suggest he's not as good as Brook.

Crolla's win over Burns is better than any win that Brook has had since beating Porter almost 4 years ago.

Brook has a better record than Crolla, but it isn't leagues above and he really hasn't done much lately.

This is true. Can't argue with that. Brook lost to GGG and Spence and Crolla lost twice to Linares.

Since.. Crolla beat Burns which is better than Brook beating Rabchenko.

Danadelion And Burdock should be higher than Fury.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 14:17 All it takes to be a Top 10 British P4P'er is to get fat, and not fight for over 2 years.

I'm surprised a lot of the fellas that frequent the local pubs ain't ranked.

Yes, if you start off as the British P4P No. 1 and your last fight was a win over a world top 10 P4Per and the lineal & unified champion of the division.

Most blokes down the pub aren't in that position.

Horse wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 14:16

Stuarty wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:39 Can't argue too much. Seems a fair list

Fury should've been left out but that was never gonna happen.

You don't think taking him out a month before he was scheduled to fight, after leaving him in for all this time, might be a bit silly?

My point was that he shouldn't be in there after all this time.

Where do you see Josh Taylor going if he secures a win against Postol, Mr H?
Postol is Boxrec #3.

Stuarty wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 15:03

Horse wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 14:16

Stuarty wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 12:39 Can't argue too much. Seems a fair list

Fury should've been left out but that was never gonna happen.

You don't think taking him out a month before he was scheduled to fight, after leaving him in for all this time, might be a bit silly?

My point was that he shouldn't be in there after all this time.

Which should be obvious to anyone that actually cares about and respects the sport. Horse just has a hard on for Fury, and allows that to overshadow everything else.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 15:31

Stuarty wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 15:03

Horse wrote: ↑01 May 2018, 14:16 You don't think taking him out a month before he was scheduled to fight, after leaving him in for all this time, might be a bit silly?

My point was that he shouldn't be in there after all this time.

Which should be obvious to anyone that actually cares about and respects the sport. Horse just has a hard on for Fury, and allows that to overshadow everything else.

Must have some size of cock