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Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:18
by ValMar
I read on an American site that Joe Joyce was willing to face Miller. Is this a realistic scenario, and what do you think about this potential match ?

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:31
by DrDuke
Joyce is big, that disables Miller's main advantage of size. Furthermore, Joyce is mobile, what can provide a nightmarish counteraction for Miller. Maybe Joyce looks a bit careless and awkward, but awkwardness can be positive, especially against Miller, cause, despite Miller has shown solid skills, he still appeared to be sluggish and not very ingenious. Maybe Joyce's lack of pro-experience can spoil everything now, but for the moment Joe seems to be such kind of fighter, who has all the potential to defeat the likes of Miller.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:36
by Ruthless-RKO
DrDuke wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:31 Joyce is big, that disables Miller's main advantage of size. Furthermore, Joyce is mobile, what can provide a nightmarish counteraction for Miller. Maybe Joyce looks a bit careless and awkward, but awkwardness can be positive, especially against Miller, cause, despite Miller has shown solid skills, he still appeared to be sluggish and not very ingenious. Maybe Joyce's lack of pro-experience can spoil everything now, but for the moment Joe seems to be such kind of fighter, who has all the potential to defeat the likes of Miller.
I agree with this. Would be a good fight IMO. Either that or boring.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:37
by gilgamesh
You guys really gotta slow your roll with Joyce. He's 4 fights in for f*cks sake. I realize he just got a pretty damn big win for a guy in only his 4th Pro Contest, but you guys are talking about jumping him up to Top 10 in the World already...pump the brakes.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:39
by jamamb
joyce should fight someone like mansour, washington, szpilka, or stiverne,

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:45
by Ruthless-RKO
Yo @BIGBABYMILLER I know your being avoided, so am I . I’ll come to your back yard in Brooklyn, I am just a 4-0 novice ! Big Juggernaut v Big Baby 🍼Lets dance pic.twitter.com/ZR6rUnFDL6 β€” Joe Joyce (@JoeJoyce_1) May 8, 2018
I can see @mrdavidhaye is teaching you well trying to get Big Fights with Out actually Earning them lol you looking like brown skin lurch from addams Family Get 10 Fights first you not no @VasylLomachenko lmfao Another english muffin lmfao https://t.co/yds1pyxXtF β€” BIGBABYMILLER (@BIGBABYMILLER) May 8, 2018
Joyce urged Miller to forget about landing a fight against the unified champion. He said: β€˜Sounds like your making excuses big man. Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder are going to fight, so I can be your warm up for the summer. Let’s go to war for the fans.’

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:46
by Ruthless-RKO
jamamb wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:39 joyce should fight someone like mansour, washington, szpilka, or stiverne,
Plenty of fights out there like the names mentioned above. I know Joyce is old, but it looks like he's in good shape and form. He should try fighting at least 2-3 more times this year.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:49
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:39 joyce should fight someone like mansour, washington, szpilka, or stiverne,
Or a lesser level than that even. At least for 1 or 2 more fights.

Who's the current British Heavyweight Champion? Can you unify the British and Commonwealth Titles? He should do that.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:50
by jamamb
hughie fury will likely be, as hes fighting sexton for the brit title. i dont think hughie is a good fight for joyce.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 12:53
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:49
jamamb wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:39 joyce should fight someone like mansour, washington, szpilka, or stiverne,
Or a lesser level than that even. At least for 1 or 2 more fights.

Who's the current British Heavyweight Champion? Can you unify the British and Commonwealth Titles? He should do that.
You can unify yes..

Apparently, it was said somewhere that the winner of Fury vs. Sexton, who will claim the British title. It would be a mandatory somehow to fight Joyce.. :confused:

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:13
by gilgamesh
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:53
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:49
jamamb wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:39 joyce should fight someone like mansour, washington, szpilka, or stiverne,
Or a lesser level than that even. At least for 1 or 2 more fights.

Who's the current British Heavyweight Champion? Can you unify the British and Commonwealth Titles? He should do that.
You can unify yes..

Apparently, it was said somewhere that the winner of Fury vs. Sexton, who will claim the British title. It would be a mandatory somehow to fight Joyce.. :confused:
So Fury has announced that his opponent on June 9th will be Sam Sexton?

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:17
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 13:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:53
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:49

Or a lesser level than that even. At least for 1 or 2 more fights.

Who's the current British Heavyweight Champion? Can you unify the British and Commonwealth Titles? He should do that.
You can unify yes..

Apparently, it was said somewhere that the winner of Fury vs. Sexton, who will claim the British title. It would be a mandatory somehow to fight Joyce.. :confused:
So Fury has announced that his opponent on June 9th will be Sam Sexton?
http://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12 ... tle-in-may

Yup

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:24
by gilgamesh
Glad to hear it...took long enough :lol:

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:24
by gilgamesh
Wait a minute, wait a minute...hold the phone.

I just checked Sam's record, and it says he's scheduled to fight Hughie Fury for the British Title on May 12th...so has that been scrapped or is he planning on fighting both Fury's in a 30 day span?

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:25
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 13:24 Glad to hear it...took long enough :lol:
LMFAO! I say that to my kids when they respond for what seems hours but is seconds! LOL! :clap: :TU:

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:25
by jamamb
no it was always hughie vs sexton, tyson was never fighting him

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:27
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 13:25 no it was always hughie vs sexton, tyson was never fighting him
So...what you're telling me is Tyson still ain't got an opponent?

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:27
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 13:13
So Fury has announced that his opponent on June 9th will be Sam Sexton?
Noo!! lol

Hughie is fighting Sexton this weekend.. lol not Tyson

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:28
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 13:24 Glad to hear it...took long enough :lol:
You didn't click the link lol

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 13:29
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 13:27
jamamb wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 13:25 no it was always hughie vs sexton, tyson was never fighting him
So...what you're telling me is Tyson still ain't got an opponent?
Yup, Hughie has Sexton.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 08 May 2018, 17:53
by 493dart
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:37 You guys really gotta slow your roll with Joyce. He's 4 fights in for f*cks sake. I realize he just got a pretty damn big win for a guy in only his 4th Pro Contest, but you guys are talking about jumping him up to Top 10 in the World already...pump the brakes.

EXACTLY !

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 09 May 2018, 00:04
by Mexi-Box
gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 May 2018, 12:37 You guys really gotta slow your roll with Joyce. He's 4 fights in for f*cks sake. I realize he just got a pretty damn big win for a guy in only his 4th Pro Contest, but you guys are talking about jumping him up to Top 10 in the World already...pump the brakes.
That's what they said about Lomachenko before he fought Salido and before he fought GRJ. Not all prospects are cut from the same cloth.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 09 May 2018, 01:37
by Evander
Joyce doesn't have a jab.

Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 09 May 2018, 03:35
by KiwiRider
Evander wrote: ↑09 May 2018, 01:37 Joyce doesn't have a jab.
Not in his last fight he didn't. In the few Am fights I saw of his, the jab he puts out is a pawing one, then occasionally one of these comes from about 2 metres away :o
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Re: Joyce vs. Miller ?

Posted: 09 May 2018, 03:40
by candyslim
Evander wrote: ↑09 May 2018, 01:37 Joyce doesn't have a jab.
He does but it wasn't in evidence against Thomas. Maybe Joe decided he didn't need it.

I agree with Gil that Joyce needs another fight or two before tackling someone like Miller but I love the fact he's aiming so high, so soon.

Miller v Joyce is a mouth-watering prospect I reckon, and not easy to call. In Joyce, Miller might find someone who can last the course better than he can (and I've always said Miller has good stamina despite his bulk). On the other hand Miller throws a lot of punches. Joyce is more heavy handed.

So having weighed it all up, processed all the information, given it serious thought .... my final conclusion ... drumroll please ... is ... fukced if I know :maybe: