at your comment. He couldn't put a dent in Demarco who got stomped by Broner.
Nice to see we have another idiot on this forum.
at your comment. He couldn't put a dent in Demarco who got stomped by Broner.
notice that if someone pushes you it can force you back and everyone even to the ground., without you being hurt as if you were punched in the head. having a boxer punch you can have the same effect in the same way. a boxer is not necessarily hurt if they are knocked downoogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:53He wasn't badly hurt, but he was hurt enough. The dude went down on his duff. Doesn't happen when you're tickled mate.Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:52Here's the knockdown. What about Loma's reaction getting up suggests he was badly hurt?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8QiSD6XUq0
It's called being off balance. Loma was stung no doubt, but not hurt too badly. Jumping back up is usually a sign that you were hurt as you would normally take the 8 count to recover. Just sayin'.jamamb wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:54notice that if someone pushes you it can force you back and everyone even to the ground., without you being hurt as if you were punched in the head. having a boxer punch you can have the same effect in the same way. a boxer is WV not necessarily hurt if they are knocked downoogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:53He wasn't badly hurt, but he was hurt enough. The dude went down on his duff. Doesn't happen when you're tickled mate.Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:52
Here's the knockdown. What about Loma's reaction getting up suggests he was badly hurt?
m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8QiSD6XUq0
I didn't see any dancing deer legs after that knockdown. Certainly not two rounds worth. I think you ought to view those rounds again. IMHO.victor-romeo wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:58 He was hurt, by knockdown t took him about 2 rounds to get his legs back after the knockdown, obviously Loma not a natural Light Weight, the size difference between him and Linares was big. Great fight though and great fighters...
i dont understand that at all, why would you want to take the full 8 to recover if you arent hurt?oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:55It's called being off balance. Loma was stung no doubt, but not hurt too badly. Jumping back up is usually a sign that you were hurt as you would normally take the 8 count to recover. Just sayin'.jamamb wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:54notice that if someone pushes you it can force you back and everyone even to the ground., without you being hurt as if you were punched in the head. having a boxer punch you can have the same effect in the same way. a boxer is WV not necessarily hurt if they are knocked down
He was hurt ("but not too badly") I penned. His jumping to his feet is counter intuitive to what we're taught. He was too quick to prove he wasn't hurt imho.jamamb wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 14:03i dont understand that at all, why would you want to take the full 8 to recover if you arent hurt?oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:55It's called being off balance. Loma was stung no doubt, but not hurt too badly. Jumping back up is usually a sign that you were hurt as you would normally take the 8 count to recover. Just sayin'.jamamb wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 13:54
notice that if someone pushes you it can force you back and everyone even to the ground., without you being hurt as if you were punched in the head. having a boxer punch you can have the same effect in the same way. a boxer is WV not necessarily hurt if they are knocked down
That's reasonable for sure.jujigatame wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 14:12 I don't think the scorecards were unreasonable. I had Loma up 4-1 and thought he was on his way to a near shutout, but the knockdown changed the fight. Loma started fighting more defensively and dropped a couple of rounds. I had it even at time of stoppage, and if a judge gave Linares both the 1st and 2nd rounds then Linares could have been justifiably ahead.
Its like the Rigo fight. You could score the 1st round 10-10 or 10-9 for Rigo as Loma used the round to feel Rigo out. After that it was just dominance.Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:01Agreed. No issue with someone scoring the first round to him, as there wasn't a lot in it either way, but Loma had already started picking up the pace in round 2. Thought it was a clear round for him.
Spot on. I genuinely think he uses the first round to read what his opponents do. He feints and dips left and right, springs in and out and watches what they throw back and where they move. It’s as if after that he processes it all through his mind and gets to work dissecting them. Class act.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:44Its like the Rigo fight. You could score the 1st round 10-10 or 10-9 for Rigo as Loma used the round to feel Rigo out. After that it was just dominance.Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 16:01Agreed. No issue with someone scoring the first round to him, as there wasn't a lot in it either way, but Loma had already started picking up the pace in round 2. Thought it was a clear round for him.
He'll carry on losing the first round against 'good' opponents.
That right hand didn't land on the button, slightly high.Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:45He got stung coming in by a perfect counter right on the button, a bit squared up at the point of impact, too. He popped up a second later and wasn't even wobbly. I'd hardly say he was "very badly" hurt. His chin is solid.oogiebe wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:37He was hurt...and very badly...it's a paralyzing blow. I remember those too well!Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:35 Loma: 2, 3, 4, 5, 8
Linares: 6, 7, 9
Even: 1
I scored the 6th round 10-9, as Loma was beating him up prior to that and, given that it happened at the end of the round, Linares had no real chance to capitalize. Not to mention I think Loma was more shocked/stung than legitimately hurt.
Thus, 87-85 for Loma going into the 10th.
I was referring to the liver shot by Loma.jpspice wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 22:56That right hand didn't land on the button, slightly high.Abradolf Lincler wrote: ↑13 May 2018, 11:45He got stung coming in by a perfect counter right on the button, a bit squared up at the point of impact, too. He popped up a second later and wasn't even wobbly. I'd hardly say he was "very badly" hurt. His chin is solid.