BoxRec

http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/24156

Just looking through some records and spotted this guy. He went 60-0-1. He avenged the draw and eventually lost to Ernie Roderick on points over 15 rounds for the British middleweight title. He beat Roderick in a later rematch to win the title.

Boxrec has his record as 75-10-1, only two stoppage defeats which were both due to cuts. Recorded as 78-10-1 on the boxing history site (Miles).

Anyone know much more about him?


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I have a lot in this boxer. I will come back to you on him later today.

Vince had one of the longest undefeated streaks from debut in British boxing. In fact, I am struggling to think of a longer one. His first loss was to Ernie Roderick in a contest for the British middleweight title in 1945. He gained his revenge the following year when he beat Roderick at the Royal Albert Hall, winning on points over fifteen rounds.

Whilst he was the British champion he only had moderate success, losing four times, to Gustave Degouve of France in Paris, to Bos Muphy in a British Empire title challenge and to both Dick and Randolph Turpin. Dick beat him on a sixth-round cut eye stoppage and Randolph beat him fair-and-square on points over eight rounds at Harringay.
Vince lost his British title to Dick Turpin in 1948 and Dick thus became the first black British champion after the lifting of the colour bar earlier that same year. Vince’s career ended in 1950 after he was stopped in one round by George Casson, again on a cut eye.

He was a rough and tough fighter with a penchant for body punching.

A fireman when not boxing, he came from Eastleigh in Hampshire. The next good fighter out of this town was also a middleweight, this being Jan Magdziarz, who twice beat Alan Minter, albeit on cuts both times. He had better luck than Vince did when it came to cut eyes!
I enclose a photo of Vince weighing in with Ernie Roderick for their second fight, when Vince became the champion. Vince is on the right.

Miles Templeton.

prewarboxing wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 12:46 Vince had one of the longest undefeated streaks from debut in British boxing. In fact, I am struggling to think of a longer one.

Thank you Miles. You have a few more fights for him than boxrec does so going by your stats he went 63-0-1 before losing which is quite a feat. I found Hawkins mentioned on the below thread, which is an interesting read written by the grandson of Bert Gilroy.

89 fights in 10 years is some going !!

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=7014

Thanks again

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There are a couple of errors in my record which will affect these stats I am afraid. I will come back with an explanation and an exact account of his undefeated run shortly. I will also try to answer my own question. Was it the longest unbeaten run from debut in British history? I suspect it was. Great to see how your original quite random post can lead to such an interesting question so quickly

prewarboxing wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 13:41 There are a couple of errors in my record which will affect these stats I am afraid. I will come back with an explanation and an exact account of his undefeated run shortly. I will also try to answer my own question. Was it the longest unbeaten run from debut in British history? I suspect it was. Great to see how your original quite random post can lead to such an interesting question so quickly

Ah ok, thank you. Jimmy Wilde has the longest run doesn't he?

Controversial wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 14:45

prewarboxing wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 13:41 There are a couple of errors in my record which will affect these stats I am afraid. I will come back with an explanation and an exact account of his undefeated run shortly. I will also try to answer my own question. Was it the longest unbeaten run from debut in British history? I suspect it was. Great to see how your original quite random post can lead to such an interesting question so quickly

Ah ok, thank you. Jimmy Wilde has the longest run doesn't he?

I suppose it depends on whether you include those 20 odd bouts I alluded to in my other post for which I have never found any documunted evidence. With them yes. Without them it's touch and go! Neck and neck so to speak! I suppose on balance it has to be Wilde. You are correct.

I am actually in my caravan at the moment, away from home so cannot check the details exactly.

prewarboxing wrote: ↑14 May 2018, 14:58 I am actually in my caravan at the moment, away from home so cannot check the details exactly.

Did you get a chance to check on this Miles?

Yes. Wilde had more than Hawkins.

I will update with precise stats in a day or two.