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SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 16 May 2018, 16:14
by Ruthless-RKO
Plans are in the works for the “Superfly 3” card, promoter Tom Loeffler told ESPN. The card is penciled in for Sept. 8 (HBO) at a Southern California site to be determined. The probable main event would pit 115-pound world titleholder Srisaket Sor Rungvisai (44-4-1, 39 KOs), 31, of Thailand, against Juan Francisco Estrada (36-3, 25 KOs), 28, of Mexico, in a rematch of the fantastic battle they waged in the main event of “Superfly 2” on Feb. 24 at The Forum in Inglewood, California, where Sor Rungvisai won by hard-fought majority decision.

- Dan Rafael

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 16 May 2018, 16:28
by gilgamesh
Nice :TU:

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 16 May 2018, 17:02
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:28 Nice :TU:
Are Inglewod and Carson both 'Southern Cali'?

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 16 May 2018, 17:05
by gilgamesh
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2018, 17:02
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:28 Nice :TU:
Are Inglewod and Carson both 'Southern Cali'?
I guess. I've never been to Cali.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 16 May 2018, 17:10
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2018, 17:05
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2018, 17:02
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:28 Nice :TU:
Are Inglewod and Carson both 'Southern Cali'?
I guess. I've never been to Cali.
Oh. NM. I thought you knew. I couldn't be bothered checking the map. I'm just assuming the car will be at either StubHub or The Forum

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 16 May 2018, 21:15
by Mexi-Box
With the mental issues thing, I'm wondering if Sor Rungvisai's prime is gone. I heavily favor Estrada now. By the way, I hope none of the degenerates that don't follow the lower weights post on here. They became laughing stocks after Arroyo and Sor Rungvisai fights. :OhYes:

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 16 May 2018, 22:26
by SenorPipino
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2018, 17:02
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:28 Nice :TU:
Are Inglewod and Carson both 'Southern Cali'?
If there's no traffic (which is an impossibility in SoCal) Carson is about 15-20 minutes from the Forum.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 17 May 2018, 00:25
by DA1
Last I heard, Srisaket is taking a leave to recuperate mentally.
He broke up with his girlfriend recently, and then she was seen fooling around with a group of other men. The scandal apparently left him devastated and his promoter said he wasn't going to be fighting soon.

So chances are the main event isn't happening. Either way, what other fighters would you like to see? I would really appreciate a change of scenario from the same 4 fighters fighting each other over and over again! (Srisaket, Gonzalez, Cuadras, Estrada). Its getting repetitive, literally.

Srisaket should fight Koki Eto or Rex Tso next. If he's out, then perhaps Estrada or someone else should fight them. I'd also like to see Muhammad Waseem on the card too. He's fighting for the IBF Flyweight belt on the Pac-Matthysse card, and win or lose I'd like to see him again on Superfly 3.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 17 May 2018, 02:55
by Ruthless-RKO
DA1 wrote: 17 May 2018, 00:25 Last I heard, Srisaket is taking a leave to recuperate mentally.
He broke up with his girlfriend recently, and then she was seen fooling around with a group of other men. The scandal apparently left him devastated and his promoter said he wasn't going to be fighting soon.

So chances are the main event isn't happening. Either way, what other fighters would you like to see? I would really appreciate a change of scenario from the same 4 fighters fighting each other over and over again! (Srisaket, Gonzalez, Cuadras, Estrada). Its getting repetitive, literally.
I think initially, he wanted the Estrada fight himself earlier than September. WBC said he could have a voluntary, but he preferred to go straight into a rematch. Who knows what state he's in. September is still a still a while away.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 17 May 2018, 03:13
by DA1
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 May 2018, 02:55
I think initially, he wanted the Estrada fight himself earlier than September. WBC said he could have a voluntary, but he preferred to go straight into a rematch. Who knows what state he's in. September is still a still a while away.
I know, which is why I really want to see a change in scenery. There's more to the division than the same 4 guys. Srisaket himself was one of those outliers not long ago.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 17 May 2018, 21:11
by Mexi-Box
DA1 wrote: 17 May 2018, 03:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 May 2018, 02:55
I think initially, he wanted the Estrada fight himself earlier than September. WBC said he could have a voluntary, but he preferred to go straight into a rematch. Who knows what state he's in. September is still a still a while away.
I know, which is why I really want to see a change in scenery. There's more to the division than the same 4 guys. Srisaket himself was one of those outliers not long ago.
Estrada is still the best fighter in the division (with Inoue moving up). Best should fight the best. By the way, Sor Rungvisai was NEVER an outlier. Anyone who followed the lower weights knew he was a dangerous fight for Chocolatito.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 17 May 2018, 23:16
by Best Coast
SenorPipino wrote: 16 May 2018, 22:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2018, 17:02
gilgamesh wrote: 16 May 2018, 16:28 Nice :TU:
Are Inglewod and Carson both 'Southern Cali'?
If there's no traffic (which is an impossibility in SoCal) Carson is about 15-20 minutes from the Forum.
12 miles on the 405 could take 30+ minutes on a Saturday night. :witzend:

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 17 May 2018, 23:24
by SenorPipino
Best Coast wrote: 17 May 2018, 23:16
SenorPipino wrote: 16 May 2018, 22:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 May 2018, 17:02

Are Inglewod and Carson both 'Southern Cali'?
If there's no traffic (which is an impossibility in SoCal) Carson is about 15-20 minutes from the Forum.
12 miles on the 405 could take 30+ minutes on a Saturday night. :witzend:
I've driven the 405 in the LAX (near the Forum) area many times on a Saturday night. It's like stop and go rush hour

I only said that it might take 15-20 minutes IF there was no traffic. But I know better.

But traffic or not Carson isn't all that far from Inglewood.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 17 May 2018, 23:42
by Best Coast
SenorPipino wrote: 17 May 2018, 23:24
Best Coast wrote: 17 May 2018, 23:16
SenorPipino wrote: 16 May 2018, 22:26

If there's no traffic (which is an impossibility in SoCal) Carson is about 15-20 minutes from the Forum.
12 miles on the 405 could take 30+ minutes on a Saturday night. :witzend:
I've driven the 405 in the LAX (near the Forum) area many times on a Saturday night. It's like stop and go rush hour

I only said that it might take 15-20 minutes IF there was no traffic. But I know better.

But traffic or not Carson isn't all that far from Inglewood.
I've seen the Sat night 405 as well. It's about 15 miles...but you could probably make it just as quick with a good bicycle on Crenshaw or Hawthorne Blvd if you had the traffic lights in your favor!! :lol:

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 18 May 2018, 01:49
by DA1
Mexi-Box wrote: 17 May 2018, 21:11
DA1 wrote: 17 May 2018, 03:13
I know, which is why I really want to see a change in scenery. There's more to the division than the same 4 guys. Srisaket himself was one of those outliers not long ago.
Estrada is still the best fighter in the division (with Inoue moving up). Best should fight the best. By the way, Sor Rungvisai was NEVER an outlier. Anyone who followed the lower weights knew he was a dangerous fight for Chocolatito.
Anybody who the US/Mexican media isn't harping on about is an outlier. Had he lost that first fight, you might never hear from him again. That is the nature of boxing politics.

He just fought Estrada. If your argument is he's still the best contender....he'd still be the best the third time and the fourth time... Do you just want to see the same fight 5 times in a row or what? Because that is essentially what you're arguing for. There are OTHER people in the division too. He got his match, now give someone else a shot, then it can go back to him.

Better yet, why doesn't Estrada try to make a fight with one of the 3 other champs out there? Oh wait, apparently he's not even ranked by them. You might wanna send them an e-mail about that. Let them know who the "best fighter in the division" is.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 18 May 2018, 03:18
by Mexi-Box
DA1 wrote: 18 May 2018, 01:49
Mexi-Box wrote: 17 May 2018, 21:11
DA1 wrote: 17 May 2018, 03:13
I know, which is why I really want to see a change in scenery. There's more to the division than the same 4 guys. Srisaket himself was one of those outliers not long ago.
Estrada is still the best fighter in the division (with Inoue moving up). Best should fight the best. By the way, Sor Rungvisai was NEVER an outlier. Anyone who followed the lower weights knew he was a dangerous fight for Chocolatito.
Anybody who the US/Mexican media isn't harping on about is an outlier. Had he lost that first fight, you might never hear from him again. That is the nature of boxing politics.

He just fought Estrada. If your argument is he's still the best contender....he'd still be the best the third time and the fourth time... Do you just want to see the same fight 5 times in a row or what? Because that is essentially what you're arguing for. There are OTHER people in the division too. He got his match, now give someone else a shot, then it can go back to him.

Better yet, why doesn't Estrada try to make a fight with one of the 3 other champs out there? Oh wait, apparently he's not even ranked by them. You might wanna send them an e-mail about that. Let them know who the "best fighter in the division" is.
You do know boxing still goes on outside of the mainstream media spotlight? Sor Rungvisai didn't fall into obscurity after losing to little-known Cuadras. He wouldn't have if he had lost to Gonzalez in their first fight either.

Nice strawman right here.

At the moment, Estrada is the best fighter in the division. The first fight was razor-close. Close fights like these always warrant a rematch. Why do you think Golovkin/Canelo are rematching, Barrera/Morales, Pacquiao/Marquez, Mayweather/Castillo, and I could go on. That's the nature of boxing when two elite p4p talents meet up in the ring. This isn't something I should be explaining by the way.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 19 May 2018, 05:49
by Ruthless-RKO
Sor Rungvisai-Estrada II, SuperFly 3 Eyed For September 8, HBO

After two highly acclaimed editions of 'SuperFly', which features the sports little big men, a third chapter of this series is being penciled in for the late summer.

Tom Loeffler, who staged and organized the first two 'SuperFly' fight cards told BS.com - "The shows coming together, we're looking at September 8th as the date from HBO. Just confirming all the match-ups on the show. It should be a triple-header, again. This has been one of the most successful series on TV and it will be one of the most anticipated cards coming up for the year."

The first two were held at the StubHub Center and then the Forum in the Los Angeles-area, and as they say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

"It's had a great response here in the Southern California area so we'll keep it here in Los Angeles," said Loeffler, who is working to put together the rematch between WBC 115-pound titlist, Sor Rungvisai and Juan Francisco Estrada, who battled over twelve rounds on February 24th at the Forum, with Sor Rungvisai retaining his title via majority decision.

"That's a fight everyone wants to see, it was one of the top fights of the year, one of the leading contenders for 'Fight of the Year' and it's non-stop action everyone wants to see both these guys back in the ring," stated Loeffler.

Originally the rematch was eyed for August, but manager of Sor Rungvisai recently revealed that his boxer would not be ready by August due to personal issues connected with a recent breakup with his longterm girlfriend.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 3, 2018

Posted: 19 May 2018, 19:26
by DA1
Mexi-Box wrote: 18 May 2018, 03:18
You do know boxing still goes on outside of the mainstream media spotlight? Sor Rungvisai didn't fall into obscurity after losing to little-known Cuadras. He wouldn't have if he had lost to Gonzalez in their first fight either.

Nice strawman right here.

At the moment, Estrada is the best fighter in the division. The first fight was razor-close. Close fights like these always warrant a rematch. Why do you think Golovkin/Canelo are rematching, Barrera/Morales, Pacquiao/Marquez, Mayweather/Castillo, and I could go on. That's the nature of boxing when two elite p4p talents meet up in the ring. This isn't something I should be explaining by the way.
Boxing goes on, but title shots don't. Unless you're from the US/Mexico/UK, you don't get the luxury of rematches and repeated cracks at the title.

Its not a strawman. Its a viable opinion, we just saw those two fight. Now I want to see someone else fight. Then it can go back to Estrada afterwards, since he's so great.

I want to see other contenders get a shot, and possibly be the next Srisaket. Not watch the same 4 people fighting over and over like a broken record.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 11:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Official Weights from Inglewood:

Juan Francisco Estrada: 114.4 lbs.
Felipe Orucuta: 114 lbs.

Donnie Nietes: 114.8 lbs.
Aston Palicte: 114.6 lbs.

Kazuto Ioke: 114.6 lbs.
Mc Williams Arroyo: 114.4 lbs.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 15:14
by jujigatame
This seems like the weakest of the Superfly cards by a wide margin. No Rungvisai, no Chocolatito, no Inoue, no Yafai, no Ancajas. Not even Cuadras.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 15:15
by jamamb
i agree, i still dont mind the card, and i like the ioka-arroyo fight, but defo the weakest of the 3

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 15:26
by Ruthless-RKO
jujigatame wrote: 08 Sep 2018, 15:14 This seems like the weakest of the Superfly cards by a wide margin. No Rungvisai, no Chocolatito, no Inoue, no Yafai, no Ancajas. Not even Cuadras.
Chocolatito should have been on the card. He doesn’t need to be on ppv undercard.

Would be good to see how many would have tuned in to watch him on regular HBO.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 15:27
by jujigatame
Yea I don't understand why they didn't do Estrada vs. Neites. Instead we get each guy against a much weaker opponent.

I'd still like to see Estrada/Gonzo II as well, but at this point it may never happen.

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 09 Sep 2018, 02:58
by Ruthless-RKO
Did no one watch SuperFly?

Was expecting a bit of RBR..

Re: SuperFly 3 - September 8, 2018

Posted: 09 Sep 2018, 03:14
by Mexi-Box
No longer subscribe to HBO, and the card was rather weak. Only real fight on paper was Ioka/Arroyo.

Only thing surprising is that Nietes got a draw. Need to watch that one. Never heard of his opponent, but the damn Filipinos seem to be experts at getting the odd high-caliber upset then getting beaten after.