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“Triple G is looking to make as much money as possible, and Canelo is emblazoned in his steroid scandal, and he is now suspended,” Derevyanchenko’s trainer Andre Rozier said to 78SportsTV. “His suspension will be ending in time for him to participate in a bout in September, and I believe Triple G will be fighting him in September, because that’s where the big money is. But if Triple G doesn’t fight Sergey in his next fight, that’s been mandated in 90 days, then he will be losing the IBF strap. It will be stripped from him,” Rozier said. @BN24 site

Who cares of that strap when GGG may get 30 M's $ from the rematch with Canelo.

I think if Golovkin unifies with Saunders, he won't. I'm not sure what he's going to do, though. Derevyanchenko is too risky. Either he loses, or he loses his prime in that fight.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 07:31 I think if Golovkin unifies with Saunders, he won't. I'm not sure what he's going to do, though. Derevyanchenko is too risky. Either he loses, or he loses his prime in that fight.

Golovkin is in a win-win type of situation in the rematch with Canelo. There is no point to waste GGG's time with mandatories and BJS.

Normally I'd support claims about fighters and super-fights being worth more than the titles, but the main excuse cited by Team GGG for the reason why they are unwilling to leave their 160lbs comfort zone, despite claiming Golovkin that he is capable of competing at and beating any fighter from 154lbs to 175lbs, was due to their desire to unify all the belts at middleweight.

Gennady could have engaged in bigger bouts at 154lbs and 168lbs than defend his titles against the likes of Wade and Monroe Jr.

Now that GGG is capable of earning millions by engaging in a rematch against Canelo, the belts suddenly become meaningless to them.

I'm not criticising GGG, but his stance has certainly changed.

The biggest fight(now rematch) in every possible way for GGG from 154 to 168 lbs is against Canelo, period!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 09:21 Normally I'd support claims about fighters and super-fights being worth more than the titles, but the main excuse cited by Team GGG for the reason why they are unwilling to leave their 160lbs comfort zone, despite claiming Golovkin that he is capable of competing at and beating any fighter from 154lbs to 175lbs, was due to their desire to unify all the belts at middleweight.

Gennady could have engaged in bigger bouts at 154lbs and 168lbs than defend his titles against the likes of Wade and Monroe Jr.

Now that GGG is capable of earning millions by engaging in a rematch against Canelo, the belts suddenly become meaningless to them.

I'm not criticising GGG, but his stance has certainly changed.

STOP POSTING. You bring it up like it's an issue anymore. Canelo is the biggest fight for Golovkin at the moment, and here you are talking about 154 and 168 like it means anything. FYI, he wanted to unify the titles because no one would fight him at the time. This is something you should know, but you're merely an agenda-driven troll.

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 09:54 The biggest fight(now rematch) in every possible way for GGG from 154 to 168 lbs is against Canelo, period!

Your explanation doesn't explain the events that transpired in the past though.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 10:16

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 09:21 Normally I'd support claims about fighters and super-fights being worth more than the titles, but the main excuse cited by Team GGG for the reason why they are unwilling to leave their 160lbs comfort zone, despite claiming Golovkin that he is capable of competing at and beating any fighter from 154lbs to 175lbs, was due to their desire to unify all the belts at middleweight.

Gennady could have engaged in bigger bouts at 154lbs and 168lbs than defend his titles against the likes of Wade and Monroe Jr.

Now that GGG is capable of earning millions by engaging in a rematch against Canelo, the belts suddenly become meaningless to them.

I'm not criticising GGG, but his stance has certainly changed.

STOP POSTING. You bring it up like it's an issue anymore. Canelo is the biggest fight for Golovkin at the moment, and here you are talking about 154 and 168 like it means anything. FYI, he wanted to unify the titles because no one would fight him at the time. This is something you should know, but you're merely an agenda-driven troll.

What I wrote was factually correct. Your explanation doesn't address the events that occurred historically.

If you feel that I'm a troll then report my posts to a moderator, but surely they'd struggle to justify implementing a ban, simply because I chose to submit factually-accurate posts that no living human being is possibly capable of refuting.

Facts don't care about feelings.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 10:16

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 09:21 Normally I'd support claims about fighters and super-fights being worth more than the titles, but the main excuse cited by Team GGG for the reason why they are unwilling to leave their 160lbs comfort zone, despite claiming Golovkin that he is capable of competing at and beating any fighter from 154lbs to 175lbs, was due to their desire to unify all the belts at middleweight.

Gennady could have engaged in bigger bouts at 154lbs and 168lbs than defend his titles against the likes of Wade and Monroe Jr.

Now that GGG is capable of earning millions by engaging in a rematch against Canelo, the belts suddenly become meaningless to them.

I'm not criticising GGG, but his stance has certainly changed.

STOP POSTING. You bring it up like it's an issue anymore. Canelo is the biggest fight for Golovkin at the moment, and here you are talking about 154 and 168 like it means anything. FYI, he wanted to unify the titles because no one would fight him at the time. This is something you should know, but you're merely an agenda-driven troll.

E.O / EnjoyingOnanism is nothing but an attention seeker-troll who is stalking these threads.

User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like E.O (EnjoyingOnanism) :

" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.

Canelo could be videoed with a needle hanging out of his arse & Fergus/Rover would respond with "He has a prescription for antihistamines & it's a well-known fact that redheads suffer more from hayfever [insert meaningless tangential link apparently "justifying" same here]. I can't see why you'd suspect him of illegal drug use. He has said he's not guilty & on that basis I prefer to traffic in facts".

Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!

It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 12:01

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 10:16

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 09:21 Normally I'd support claims about fighters and super-fights being worth more than the titles, but the main excuse cited by Team GGG for the reason why they are unwilling to leave their 160lbs comfort zone, despite claiming Golovkin that he is capable of competing at and beating any fighter from 154lbs to 175lbs, was due to their desire to unify all the belts at middleweight.

Gennady could have engaged in bigger bouts at 154lbs and 168lbs than defend his titles against the likes of Wade and Monroe Jr.

Now that GGG is capable of earning millions by engaging in a rematch against Canelo, the belts suddenly become meaningless to them.

I'm not criticising GGG, but his stance has certainly changed.

STOP POSTING. You bring it up like it's an issue anymore. Canelo is the biggest fight for Golovkin at the moment, and here you are talking about 154 and 168 like it means anything. FYI, he wanted to unify the titles because no one would fight him at the time. This is something you should know, but you're merely an agenda-driven troll.

E.O / EnjoyingOnanism is nothing but an attention seeker-troll who is stalking these threads.

It takes far less effort to try to insult me than to undermine my words, doesn't it? I wonder why that might be?

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 12:08 User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like E.O (EnjoyingOnanism) :

" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.

Canelo could be videoed with a needle hanging out of his arse & Fergus/Rover would respond with "He has a prescription for antihistamines & it's a well-known fact that redheads suffer more from hayfever [insert meaningless tangential link apparently "justifying" same here]. I can't see why you'd suspect him of illegal drug use. He has said he's not guilty & on that basis I prefer to traffic in facts".

Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!

It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "

As poetic as that post might seem to the uneducated, it bears no relation to reality.

People can't disprove my claims and are offended by real-world facts of reality, so they resort to insults instead.

Even the forum moderators, those that despise my posts, can't justify issuing me with a ban, because citing facts doesn't contravene any of the rules of the forum.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 12:11

apollo creed wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 12:08 User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like E.O (EnjoyingOnanism) :

" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.

Canelo could be videoed with a needle hanging out of his arse & Fergus/Rover would respond with "He has a prescription for antihistamines & it's a well-known fact that redheads suffer more from hayfever [insert meaningless tangential link apparently "justifying" same here]. I can't see why you'd suspect him of illegal drug use. He has said he's not guilty & on that basis I prefer to traffic in facts".

Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!

It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "

As poetic as that post might seem to the uneducated, it bears no relation to reality.

People can't disprove my claims and are offended by real-world facts of reality, so they resort to insults instead.

Even the forum moderators, those that despise my posts, can't justify issuing me with a ban, because citing facts doesn't contravene any of the rules of the forum.

You should try to find somebody to give you a big hug because you ain't gonna get cured by stalking threads on this forum and argue with users about your "factually correct" straight B.S !