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Posted: **19 May 2018, 08:51**

Whether it was who won, or you knew it would be a KO and went the distance, or visa versa.

I thought I knew the following fights would be a KO.

Tyson-Smith
Tyson-Tucker
Hagler-Duran

Picked the wrong guy here:

Douglas-Tyson
Pacquio-ODLH
Oquendo-Ettienne*

*This one I was watching w/ my girlfriend at the time and I was so sure Isaid, "Oquendo is awful, just saw him fight. Ettiene has mad power. If Oquendo wins, I'll become gay." After the fight she looked at me and I said, "ok, I'm happy."

For all you keyboard warriors out there who call people idiots if they predict a fight from 1979 that never happened differently, fess up here.

Posted: **19 May 2018, 09:07**

If somebody uses idiotic reasoning, it's acceptable to call them an idiot for it. Applying the term "keyboard warrior" here really does make you sound hysterical and oversensitive. I guess that Oquendo result did turn you gay.

Posted: **19 May 2018, 09:18**

You are the one taking offense. Lighten up and have a bit of a sense of humor.

Unless you have picked every fight, game, and election correctly, then you too, like the rest of us, have used "idiotic reasoning." No? So what's the point of using inflammatory rhetoric?

Posted: **19 May 2018, 10:07**

Holy crap is any thread safe from F-Tards?!?!?!?!?!

Posted: **19 May 2018, 10:10**

I picked so many WRONG fights I can't figure which to post!!

Holyfield/Tyson I

Hagler/Leanard
Leanard/Hearns I
Norton/Ali III
Norton/Ali I
Tyson/Douglas (if you deny this you are lying)

My dad picked Leon over Ali in their first fight. Best call I ever saw! Said young and strong was perfect for the upset.

Foreman/Norton (thought it would be an ok fight...picked Foreman but later than 2 rounds)

El Al...

Posted: **19 May 2018, 15:20**

Too many to mention........good job I don't ever have a punt on the boxing.

I thought Benn would KO Eubank in their first fight and possibly do him some serious damage.

Was convinced that Nigel had learnt from the Watson fight and not let the red-mist takeover and that Eubank was something of a hype job who had not faced anyone remotely as dangerous like Benn.

Eubank proved me wrong and was brave and completely controlled whilst Nigel got utterly carried away by his loathing for Chris and fought like a challenger fighting abroad and with no more title shots coming his way.

By the same token I thought that the G-Man would end Nigel's run at the top table - hit far too hard and accurately and would easily survive Benn's rushes - but Benn endured and ripped up the form book.

I also thought that Froch - on one of a hell of a run, determinded as hell and blessed with the knack of finding a huge bomb - would decode Andre Ward.

Posted: **19 May 2018, 17:15**

Rosario-Ramirez ll.

Posted: **19 May 2018, 17:44**

Eubank-Groves comes immediately to mind.

But I've watched boxing since the 60s so I've missed my fair share of predictions.

For some reason Margarito vs Cotto l stands out. I was certain that Cotto was simply a much more talented fighter.

And I was probably right, but he stupidly fought the rugged Margarito's fight and stubbornly stuck to the same plan even as he began to get pummeled.

In the rematch, Cotto wisely stuck to using his much better boxing skills to dominate.

Posted: **19 May 2018, 18:37**

A lot.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 08:07**

Tony1244 wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 09:18 You are the one taking offense. Lighten up and have a bit of a sense of humor.

Unless you have picked every fight, game, and election correctly, then you too, like the rest of us, have used "idiotic reasoning." No? So what's the point of using inflammatory rhetoric?

So you misrepresent my point, call me a keyboard warrior and even create a thread about it, and then expect me to lighten up?

To be extra clear: I have no issue with someone picking Lyle over Norton in this aborted 79 fight. Who knows who would have won? What I have issue with is someone responding to my reasoned opinion with 'You pick Norton!? He got knocked out by Earnie Shavers in 79!? LMFAO!! LAMFAO!!'--while ignoring the fact that his guy got knocked clean out by Lynn Ball.... If you're going to employ such illogical reasoning, and be annoying while doing so ('LMFAO!! LAMFAO!!'), someone is going to point out to you that you're an idiot.

Speaking of which, Tony, you know that picking winners in actual fights and fantasy fights are two fundamentally different things, right? Upcoming fights are difficult to gauge because we don't have the capacity to see into the future. With fantasy fights we have the luxury of assessing a fighter's complete career, and thus are able to make at least an educated guess. Is your next thread going to be about apples and oranges?

Posted: **20 May 2018, 09:40**

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑20 May 2018, 08:07
Tony1244 wrote: ↑19 May 2018, 09:18 You are the one taking offense. Lighten up and have a bit of a sense of humor.

Unless you have picked every fight, game, and election correctly, then you too, like the rest of us, have used "idiotic reasoning." No? So what's the point of using inflammatory rhetoric?
So you misrepresent my point, call me a keyboard warrior and even create a thread about it, and then expect me to lighten up?

To be extra clear: I have no issue with someone picking Lyle over Norton in this aborted 79 fight. Who knows who would have won? What I have issue with is someone responding to my reasoned opinion with 'You pick Norton!? He got knocked out by Earnie Shavers in 79!? LMFAO!! LAMFAO!!'--while ignoring the fact that his guy got knocked clean out by Lynn Ball.... If you're going to employ such illogical reasoning, and be annoying while doing so ('LMFAO!! LAMFAO!!'), someone is going to point out to you that you're an idiot.

Speaking of which, Tony, you know that picking winners in actual fights and fantasy fights are two fundamentally different things, right? Upcoming fights are difficult to gauge because we don't have the capacity to see into the future. With fantasy fights we have the luxury of assessing a fighter's complete career, and thus are able to make at least an educated guess. Is your next thread going to be about apples and oranges?

First of all, I did not create a thread about you. The thread, which has been done before, but I didn't want to go back dozens of pages, is about fights we've been wrong about.

Second of all, I agree with you on Norton-Lyle. I think Norton could have beaten Lyle at virtually anytime until his car accident.

Perhaps you took the LMFAO and keyboard warrior thing too seriously. Perhaps I take things too seriously as well myself.

To me, dummy and LMAO are fine, but when you tell someone they don't know the sport, when they obviously follow it very closely is a bit over the top IMHO, because you can only take that one way, which is what I was thinking about with keyboard warrior.

No worries, let's back get to the crux of things.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 11:19**

Probably my worst ever pick, given the manner of the result, was Moorer over Tua.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 11:26**

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑20 May 2018, 11:19 Probably my worst ever pick, given the manner of the result, was Moorer over Tua.

I believe I was surprised by that result as well if I remember correctly.

I remember Moorer as an amateur and followed him for a long time.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 11:33**

Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑20 May 2018, 11:19 Probably my worst ever pick, given the manner of the result, was Moorer over Tua.

Didn't you know that Moorer was way past his prime when he fought Tua? Or you just underestimated David? I predicted Lewis to KO Tua in 3 rounds, but not beacause I thought Tua was that bad - I just thought that Lewis was that good.

My worst pick was probaby David Price over Tony Thompson in 3 rounds in their first fight.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 11:51**

Hell just this weekend it'd be easier for me to tell one which ones I DID pick correctly

Posted: **20 May 2018, 12:06**

Stevenson v. Jack.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 13:28**

It'd be a much shorter list if you asked who did I pick CORRECTLY!

Posted: **20 May 2018, 13:31**

There are a lot of tossup fights where I had to clue who would win, or where I was mildly surprised, but there have been a few that I mentioned here where I was absolutely WTF.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 13:43**

Boxing Writer wrote: ↑20 May 2018, 11:33
Tuan_Jim wrote: ↑20 May 2018, 11:19 Probably my worst ever pick, given the manner of the result, was Moorer over Tua.
Didn't you know that Moorer was way past his prime when he fought Tua? Or you just underestimated David? I predicted Lewis to KO Tua in 3 rounds, but not beacause I thought Tua was that bad - I just thought that Lewis was that good.

My worst pick was probaby David Price over Tony Thompson in 3 rounds in their first fight.

He was 4-0 on the comeback trail and I thought that if leaden, middling pugs like Maskaev and Rahman could outbox Tua, so too could a gifted one like Moorer. Plus Byrd had baffled Tua and Moorer was a southpaw with power! I also thought that having stood straight in front of Foreman, he would know better than to stand and slug with a puncher. Everyone on Boxrec mocked me after the KO, and rightly so.

On reflection I think Moorer got by on natural talent rather than having some great boxing intellect, and 35 usually spells doom for purely talent/reflex based fighters. A Tua blowout was a no-brainer.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 17:18**

I backed against lennox lewis many many times and lost lots. I always thought his vulnerability would rear its ugly head but actually he improved with age. I thought tua would beat him, galota all sorts lol. He really was a great fighter I just didn't see it at the time.

Posted: **20 May 2018, 17:34**

lol the irony of a particular poster in here calling others hyper sensitive and hysterical

recently i thought estrada would outbox sor rungvisiai rather clearly and that eubank would beat groves. i think my reasoning and use of evidence was perfectly reasobale for the first case but i admit for the second one i was poor there, and bought too much into superficial stuff and some hype

i dont feel a pick is a bad pick just for being wrong though, even if way wrong. if you use sound logical reasoning and evidence before hand, its not a bad pick even if it turns out different. a bad pick is when someone is way off with the reasoning/evidence etc.

Posted: **22 May 2018, 09:14**

cfang wrote: ↑20 May 2018, 17:18 I backed against lennox lewis many many times and lost lots. I always thought his vulnerability would rear its ugly head but actually he improved with age. I thought tua would beat him, galota all sorts lol. He really was a great fighter I just didn't see it at the time.

I picked Holyfield to beat Lewis in their first fight and Lewis to KO Rahman in South Africa. In all his other fights I picked the winner correctly. Of course, I didn't think he would destroy Golota so quickly (I predicted 5th round KO for LL), and I thought he would KO Mavrovic, Tua and Vitali instead of winning on points/cuts.

Posted: **22 May 2018, 22:47**

Maidana over Broner.

I tend to remember best the ones where I placed a sizeable bet on the eventual loser.

I also recall figuring Fenech would pummel Nelson in their Australia rematch.

Recall that Fenech pretty much dominated Nelson in their first fight but the judges somehow called it a draw.

It seemed logical that Fenech would easily beat up the aging Nelson in the return go.

But Nelson showed why he was nicknamed The Professor and stunningly manhandled Fenech.

A huge surprise to me. And others I'm sure.

Posted: **23 May 2018, 03:25**

cfang wrote: ↑20 May 2018, 17:18 I backed against lennox lewis many many times and lost lots. I always thought his vulnerability would rear its ugly head but actually he improved with age. I thought tua would beat him, galota all sorts lol. He really was a great fighter I just didn't see it at the time.

Is that because you didn't like him and wanted him to lose? Can I ask, which particular boxers you thought he'd lose to?

Posted: **23 May 2018, 14:52**

@SenorPipino......some good choices there but to be totally fair, you were definitely not in a minority at the time.

Aussie champs fighting at home seems to be a tricky call.......Fenech seemed to have done the hard job first time out against Nelson and just not got the result he was due.

But things unravelled on a night when he was at home and seemingly a fighter who was in the ascendancy.

I got the second Harding-Andries fight 'down under' all wrong as well. Thought Dennis was over-the-hill and that Harding would have improved even more in the meantime. He'd knocked the quite dangerous Tom Collins about.

But Andries wins and would be the only man to KO the very rugged Harding.

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