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Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 01:51
by Taansend
Remember this one?


Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 03:12
by MightyWarrior
Yeah i was there for that one in Spain, open air bullring and postponed for a day due to a big storm -which the very tough mad dog Hatcher must have thought had blown in again when Honeyghan turned his lights OUT.

Lloyd at his peak there, hitting so hard that his hands eventually couldn’t take it any more.

He was truly a vicious SOB, but showed compassion that night as the dumb ass ref was slow to save the stricken American, who was about to have his head taken off, but Lloyd turned away and did the refs job that night.

My perplexed mate, who knew nothing about boxing and I had dragged along to the fight, pretty much missed it as he settled in for the fight and reached down for his beer, looked at me and said “is that it!?” :lol:

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 04:24
by bennie
MightyWarrior wrote: 26 May 2018, 03:12 Yeah i was there for that one in Spain, open air bullring and postponed for a day due to a big storm -which the very tough mad dog Hatcher must have thought had blown in again when Honeyghan turned his lights OUT.

Lloyd at his peak there, hitting so hard that his hands eventually couldn’t take it any more.

He was truly a vicious SOB, but showed compassion that night as the dumb ass ref was slow to save the stricken American, who was about to have his head taken off, but Lloyd turned away and did the refs job that night.

My perplexed mate, who knew nothing about boxing and I had dragged along to the fight, pretty much missed it as he settled in for the fight and reached down for his beer, looked at me and said “is that it!?” :lol:
They had another dumb referee in the Bruno-Reggie Gross encounter on the same show (or it may have been the same one). Lawless branded him "a disgrace" to his face. Hatcher, by the way, is now a priest.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 05:09
by bigjack
MightyWarrior wrote: 26 May 2018, 03:12 Yeah i was there for that one in Spain, open air bullring and postponed for a day due to a big storm -which the very tough mad dog Hatcher must have thought had blown in again when Honeyghan turned his lights OUT.

Lloyd at his peak there, hitting so hard that his hands eventually couldn’t take it any more.

He was truly a vicious SOB, but showed compassion that night as the dumb ass ref was slow to save the stricken American, who was about to have his head taken off, but Lloyd turned away and did the refs job that night.

My perplexed mate, who knew nothing about boxing and I had dragged along to the fight, pretty much missed it as he settled in for the fight and reached down for his beer, looked at me and said “is that it!?” :lol:
I remember settling down to watch that fight only to be told last minute that it had been cancelled until the next day,no internet or anything those days so we had no idea there was a massive storm and the bull ring was swamped.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 07:12
by spudder56
Lloyd was a great fighter in his pomp

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 10:27
by Taansend
bennie wrote: 26 May 2018, 04:24
MightyWarrior wrote: 26 May 2018, 03:12 Yeah i was there for that one in Spain, open air bullring and postponed for a day due to a big storm -which the very tough mad dog Hatcher must have thought had blown in again when Honeyghan turned his lights OUT.

Lloyd at his peak there, hitting so hard that his hands eventually couldn’t take it any more.

He was truly a vicious SOB, but showed compassion that night as the dumb ass ref was slow to save the stricken American, who was about to have his head taken off, but Lloyd turned away and did the refs job that night.

My perplexed mate, who knew nothing about boxing and I had dragged along to the fight, pretty much missed it as he settled in for the fight and reached down for his beer, looked at me and said “is that it!?” :lol:
They had another dumb referee in the Bruno-Reggie Gross encounter on the same show (or it may have been the same one). Lawless branded him "a disgrace" to his face. Hatcher, by the way, is now a priest.
Cheers Bennie.

Loose rules on churches down in Texas. They can rake in a sh!tload of money preying on the gullible.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 13:52
by Old bones Ian
Don't forget he did this to Gianfranco Rosi in the 3rd round as well, and in Italy. The look on the crowds faces when Lloyd lands that right hand


Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 14:50
by bigjack
Old bones Ian wrote: 26 May 2018, 13:52 Don't forget he did this to Gianfranco Rosi in the 3rd round as well, and in Italy. The look on the crowds faces when Lloyd lands that right hand

That's the way to avoid getting robbed abroad,although the old saying was,you had to 'knock the guy out to get a draw' :box:

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 26 May 2018, 16:52
by funso banjo baby
his brief title run was lots of fun

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 01:20
by forcefraser
Honeygan was fun to watch but over rated in my opinion.

Remember Jorge Vaca?

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 05:59
by Taansend
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 01:20 Honeygan was fun to watch but over rated in my opinion.

Remember Jorge Vaca?
Yes.

Is that supposed to be an example of something?

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 06:27
by banjo
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 01:20 Honeygan was fun to watch but over rated in my opinion.

Remember Jorge Vaca?
Stopped on a cut though wasn't he? Battered him in the rematch.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 06:33
by tobyh5
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 01:20 Honeygan was fun to watch but over rated in my opinion.

Remember Jorge Vaca?
Funny to read that as I was thinking how underrated he is now. Hardly gets a mention in great British fighters.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 07:06
by forcefraser
His win over Curry was immense and he was on fire that night. But if you look at his record apart from Curry he has a points win over Blocker and not too much else.

He was obviously a good fighter but his record falls short for me.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 11:20
by Taansend
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 07:06 His win over Curry was immense and he was on fire that night. But if you look at his record apart from Curry he has a points win over Blocker and not too much else.

He was obviously a good fighter but his record falls short for me.
Falls short of what?

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 12:35
by forcefraser
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2018, 11:20
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 07:06 His win over Curry was immense and he was on fire that night. But if you look at his record apart from Curry he has a points win over Blocker and not too much else.

He was obviously a good fighter but his record falls short for me.
Falls short of what?
Falls short of being considered a great record. any further clarifications needed, just ask 👍

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 12:36
by Taansend
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:35
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2018, 11:20
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 07:06 His win over Curry was immense and he was on fire that night. But if you look at his record apart from Curry he has a points win over Blocker and not too much else.

He was obviously a good fighter but his record falls short for me.
Falls short of what?
Falls short of being considered a great record. any further clarifications needed, just ask 👍
He does have a great record.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 12:46
by forcefraser
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:36
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:35
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2018, 11:20

Falls short of what?
Falls short of being considered a great record. any further clarifications needed, just ask 👍
He does have a great record.

That’s a matter of opinion though isn’t it. I don’t see many top guys that he beat.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 12:48
by tobyh5
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:46
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:36
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:35

Falls short of being considered a great record. any further clarifications needed, just ask 👍
He does have a great record.

That’s a matter of opinion though isn’t it. I don’t see many top guys that he beat.
How do you rank Hatton and McGuigan?

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 12:58
by forcefraser
tobyh5 wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:48
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:46
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2018, 12:36

He does have a great record.

That’s a matter of opinion though isn’t it. I don’t see many top guys that he beat.
How do you rank Hatton and McGuigan?
Both excellent fighters but again if we are looking at resumè and wins then Hatton get’s the nod for a stronger record. Hatton has some good wins but it’s not a stellar record either.

I think Kell Brook is a great fighter, very talented but his resumè is very weak. I think he’s a better fighter than Amir Khan, but Khan has a superior record in terms of wins.

Which UK fighter has the best record in terms of wins? Froch? Calzaghe? Lewis?

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 13:04
by banjo
Honeyghan has some good wins, aside from the obvious Curry win, Bumphus, Blocker, Hatcher and Rosi were all title holders at some point, not stellar victories or an all time great resume but a very solid respectable record.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 13:13
by forcefraser
It’s a good record but not a great one (in my opinion) which was my point initially.

I remember when he beat Curry and made a few defenses, destroying Bumphus in the process ( Bumphus never fought again after that)

Then he fought Vaca who was a limited slugger but tough as nails. I couldn’t believe it when he lost the fight on points after the he cuts took it to the cards.

I always had the impression he was not as committed to training as he should have been but maybe I’m wrong

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 13:26
by Taansend
forcefraser wrote: 27 May 2018, 13:13 It’s a good record but not a great one (in my opinion) which was my point initially.

I remember when he beat Curry and made a few defenses, destroying Bumphus in the process ( Bumphus never fought again after that)

Then he fought Vaca who was a limited slugger but tough as nails. I couldn’t believe it when he lost the fight on points after the he cuts took it to the cards.

I always had the impression he was not as committed to training as he should have been but maybe I’m wrong
You might be right about the first Vaca fight. He was very sluggish. I think he overlooked him a lot.

Put the record right in the rematch though. Mark of a great fighter.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 13:44
by banjo
To be honest Lloyd was lucky he wasn't disqualified in the Bumphus fight, he ran across the ring and twatted him while he was still sat down :KO:

Pretty sure he took out the Korean fella with a low blow as well.

Re: Lloyd Honeyghan

Posted: 27 May 2018, 14:10
by bigjack
banjo wrote: 27 May 2018, 13:44 To be honest Lloyd was lucky he wasn't disqualified in the Bumphus fight, he ran across the ring and twatted him while he was still sat down :KO:

Pretty sure he took out the Korean fella with a low blow as well.
He was standing up,just lol