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Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 02 Jun 2018, 14:29
by ValMar
What do you think ? Why ?
Personally, I would prefer to see GGG against Charlo or Dervi............
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 02 Jun 2018, 16:24
by boxing_rocks
I doubt he will accept anything below 45 unless they get something else in addition.
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 03 Jun 2018, 11:49
by SenorPipino
Sure he'd take it.
I don't know if GBP will offer it without a concession elsewhere, but I'm certain Golovkin would grab it.
The 50/50 is just a negotiating yardstick. Start high and work down.
Loeffler knows that parity would never fly, but he's asking for a lot so he can end up with something he finds acceptable.
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 03 Jun 2018, 11:57
by boxing_rocks
Golovkin got overwhelming support on his demand among the boxing community. If the fight doesn't happen, it will be considered Canelo's fault.
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 03 Jun 2018, 12:58
by SenorPipino
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 11:57
Golovkin got overwhelming support on his demand among the boxing community. If the fight doesn't happen, it will be considered Canelo's fault.
Add about $2.8 million to that "overwhelming support" and "fault" and Golovkin sadly finds himself in one of those now popular slave wages fights with either Derevyanchenko, Saunders or Charlo.
As Canelo says "Qué lástima."
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 03 Jun 2018, 13:24
by boxing_rocks
SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 12:58
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 11:57
Golovkin got overwhelming support on his demand among the boxing community. If the fight doesn't happen, it will be considered Canelo's fault.
Add about $2.8 million to that "overwhelming support" and "fault" and Golovkin sadly finds himself in one of those now popular slave wages fights with either Derevyanchenko, Saunders or Charlo.
As Canelo says "Qué lástima."
If Golovkin beats Derevo, Saunders and Charlo (or even two of them), he will prove himself to be the best MW since Hagler, and he will still be a rich man. Clenbnelo can keep cherry picking and be shitted on by the boxing community. After a certain point, money doesn't make you any happier.
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 03 Jun 2018, 17:13
by SenorPipino
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 13:24
SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 12:58
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 11:57
Golovkin got overwhelming support on his demand among the boxing community. If the fight doesn't happen, it will be considered Canelo's fault.
Add about $2.8 million to that "overwhelming support" and "fault" and Golovkin sadly finds himself in one of those now popular slave wages fights with either Derevyanchenko, Saunders or Charlo.
As Canelo says "Qué lástima."
If Golovkin beats Derevo, Saunders and Charlo (or even two of them), he will prove himself to be the best MW since Hagler, and he will still be a rich man. Clenbnelo can keep cherry picking and be shitted on by the boxing community. After a certain point, money doesn't make you any happier.
Are we going to revisit this again?
Money makes me happy.
I'm sure money makes you happy, BR.
It makes Canelo happy.
And come on, admit it, it makes Golovkin very happy too. So happy, that he's pretty much hijacking the fight because of it.
I would think that by now, this painting of Golovkin as some sort of virtuous, noble soul who fights for glory and not cold, hard cash, would be flushed down the toilet.
And it's not me saying it. It's Golovkin through his lackey, Loeffler, who has finally admitted to it.
Golovkin doesn't care about money, has been the laughable refrain. He just wants to set the record straight about the first fight. The purse isn't important.
Well we know that's not true, don't we? Money is Golovkin's priority. It's what is holding up the fight. His sudden insistence on a 50/50 purse.
Loeffler has said so on multiple occasions: WE WANT MORE MONEY! So much for the virtuous Golovkin.
It's not Canelo, is it? Canelo agreed to terms for May 5. The fight was set. But now Golovkin has decided that he wants mucho mas dinero, using the delay/suspension as some sort of weak justification for a bigger piece of the pie.
The signed 65/35 terms are no longer acceptable. Suddenly it's Golovkin WHO IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
And that's fine by me. If he wants more, that's normal. Boxing is a sport second, a business first.
But don't go finger pointing at Canelo and insist that he's the one who's holding up the rematch. Hardly.
It's 100% on Golovkin at this point. He's become Mr. Capitalist.
So if there's someone who's at fault right now, it's the man from Khazakstan.
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 03 Jun 2018, 19:41
by boxing_rocks
Having 100 million vs 20 million doesn't really make you happier. Nobody objects getting more money. The question is what one wants to sacrifice for getting more. At the prosperity level Golovkin already is, he won't sacrifice his principles for the cheater's money.
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 04 Jun 2018, 11:37
by ValMar
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 19:41
Having 100 million vs 20 million doesn't really make you happier. Nobody objects getting more money. The question is what one wants to sacrifice for getting more. At the prosperity level Golovkin already is, he won't sacrifice his principles for the cheater's money.
For me, 100 mill. and 20 mill. are the same. I wouldn't be able to spend these sums for my life-time.
I am not sure what GGG thinks about, but I suppose his team is full of greedy persons (Canelo's team too, even more).....
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 04 Jun 2018, 16:36
by G.McClellan
SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 17:13
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 13:24
SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 12:58
Add about $2.8 million to that "overwhelming support" and "fault" and Golovkin sadly finds himself in one of those now popular slave wages fights with either Derevyanchenko, Saunders or Charlo.
As Canelo says "Qué lástima."
If Golovkin beats Derevo, Saunders and Charlo (or even two of them), he will prove himself to be the best MW since Hagler, and he will still be a rich man. Clenbnelo can keep cherry picking and be shitted on by the boxing community. After a certain point, money doesn't make you any happier.
Are we going to revisit this again?
Money makes me happy.
I'm sure money makes you happy, BR.
It makes Canelo happy.
And come on, admit it, it makes Golovkin very happy too. So happy, that he's pretty much hijacking the fight because of it.
I would think that by now, this painting of Golovkin as some sort of virtuous, noble soul who fights for glory and not cold, hard cash, would be flushed down the toilet.
And it's not me saying it. It's Golovkin through his lackey, Loeffler, who has finally admitted to it.
Golovkin doesn't care about money, has been the laughable refrain. He just wants to set the record straight about the first fight. The purse isn't important.
Well we know that's not true, don't we? Money is Golovkin's priority. It's what is holding up the fight. His sudden insistence on a 50/50 purse.
Loeffler has said so on multiple occasions: WE WANT MORE MONEY! So much for the virtuous Golovkin.
It's not Canelo, is it? Canelo agreed to terms for May 5. The fight was set. But now Golovkin has decided that he wants mucho mas dinero, using the delay/suspension as some sort of weak justification for a bigger piece of the pie.
The signed 65/35 terms are no longer acceptable. Suddenly it's Golovkin WHO IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
And that's fine by me. If he wants more, that's normal. Boxing is a sport second, a business first.
But don't go finger pointing at Canelo and insist that he's the one who's holding up the rematch. Hardly.
It's 100% on Golovkin at this point. He's become Mr. Capitalist.
So if there's someone who's at fault right now, it's the man from Khazakstan.
Hold on. What's wrong with Golden Boy giving Golovkin more money? Golovkin was robbed in the first fight and then had the rematch postponed due to Canelo's suspension.
Canelo's team seem to be hoping father time catches up with Gennady, before Gennady catches up with them.
Triple G deserves to get paid for putting up with this nonsense.
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 04 Jun 2018, 16:52
by greg
..there are enough reasons why Golden Boy should reconsider his initial offer..
Re: Will GGG accept 60/40 for the rematch against Canelo (September) ?
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 02:35
by jamamb
hed be dumb not to accept 60-40 since i believe thats more then he got for the first fight. he made like 15-20m for that, it would be a sh!tload to give away and instead fight for no more then 2.5m