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What examples of boxers who had a quick downfall after much promise?

I have:
Lucian Bute - Once he lost to Froch, it was over for him.
Fernando Vargas - Trinidad beat the youth out of him.
Jeff Lacy - Calzaghe beat the youth out of him.
Jermaine Taylor - After Pavlik, took more brutal knockouts from Froch and Abraham.

recently julius indongo went in 3 fights from uniyfying world titles to looking like absolute trash and being taken out quick in back to back fights. ya, crawford is p4p, but still not even crawford usually blows out guys like that and he was terrible vs prograis

tyson fury sort of fits in a way, gets the big win vs wlad, and then next thing hes off his handle and turned into a joke. though that wasnt an in ring downfall and maybe he can get redemption

dominick guinn was pretty hyped, but then within a year he went from being undefeated to having 3 losses and a draw

and the obvious recent one roman gonzalez

uchyiama and yamanaka sort of too, like gonazles had long unbeaten streaks, but then also like gonzalez back to back losses to the same guy, and then retirement. yamanaka was probably the #1 in the world and then two fights later was done and commentating on fights as a former pro

RandomUsername wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 19:54

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 17:48 What examples of boxers who had a quick downfall after much promise?

I have:
Lucian Bute - Once he lost to Froch, it was over for him.
Fernando Vargas - Trinidad beat the youth out of him.
Jeff Lacy - Calzaghe beat the youth out of him.
Jermaine Taylor - After Pavlik, took more brutal knockouts from Froch and Abraham.

Pavlik also belongs on that list in a big way.

Not sure who this Lucian Bute is, his star never shined that bright.

Jeff Lacy ... it looks like he was just overhyped and not that good. Where is the proof that he was ever anything special.

I remember after the super 6 when people were saying Ward wan't the best at 168 because he didn't beat Bute.
Lacy was never anything special but he wasn't even who he was before the Calzaghe fight.

Chris Algeri.
Showed grit and skill against Ruslan. Got Lacy-hyped by the press. Won the title and boom- Pac pulped him, Khan boxed rings around him, and Spence made him kiss more canvas than Trump kisses babies.
Nice guy though.

Oh heck!
How have we forgotten
Prince Charles (I walk this earth like a God) Martin


And 5 minutes later...


And now...

david price

i dont recall algieri getting major hype tbh, i dont believe anyone thought he was all that

He had more than promise. The guy was a legend. But he had a quick downfall - courtesy of one Mike Tyson.

Michael Spinks.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 23:32 Oh heck!
How have we forgotten
Prince Charles (I walk this earth like a God) Martin


And 5 minutes later...


And now...

From God to dog in five minutes

Robert Helenius comes to mind. At one point he was looking like serious contender.

Indongo is good example of how narrow the path can be.

Rigo went from hero to zero in one fight

Like a Boss wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 01:12 He had more than promise. The guy was a legend. But he had a quick downfall - courtesy of one Mike Tyson.

Michael Spinks.

I don't really consider that a downfall as he never fought again so who knows if he actually declined as far as talent goes.

Domestically (UK), Errol Christie and Pele Reid come to mind.

Indongo, Gamboa, Gonzalez.............
Rigo and Kovalev - partly.................

Roy Jones Jr. He was considered probably as the best P4P (though not the most accomplished) fighter of all time after beating Ruiz, and one year later he was knocked out by Antonio Tarver and brutally KTFOed by Glen Johnson.

A bit harsh to say Roman Gonzales and Roy Jones Jr merely “showed much promise” before their downfalls, considering they were both arguably P4P number 1 at various stages

Micheal Grant, I can remember Americans in forums telling me how he was going to destroy Lewis

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 15:04 Micheal Grant, I can remember Americans in forums telling me how he was going to destroy Lewis

Good one, Grant was seen as a serious player pre-Lewis

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 09:47

Like a Boss wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 01:12 He had more than promise. The guy was a legend. But he had a quick downfall - courtesy of one Mike Tyson.

Michael Spinks.

I don't really consider that a downfall as he never fought again so who knows if he actually declined as far as talent goes.

Never fighting again is total downfall.

Like a Boss wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 19:17

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 09:47

Like a Boss wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 01:12 He had more than promise. The guy was a legend. But he had a quick downfall - courtesy of one Mike Tyson.

Michael Spinks.

I don't really consider that a downfall as he never fought again so who knows if he actually declined as far as talent goes.

Never fighting again is total downfall.

On those lines I will add the name of Sultan Ibragimov

Like a Boss wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 19:17

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 09:47

Like a Boss wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 01:12 He had more than promise. The guy was a legend. But he had a quick downfall - courtesy of one Mike Tyson.

Michael Spinks.

I don't really consider that a downfall as he never fought again so who knows if he actually declined as far as talent goes.

Never fighting again is total downfall.

He swanned off in to the sunset with his $21m and enjoyed life BTW that was a lot of money back then

Francisco Panchito Bojado.

A 2000 Olympian for Mexico and heralded as a combination De La Hoya/Fernando Vargas type, Bojado reeled off 9 straight wins in the early 2000s, (all by KO) and seemed destined for superstardom.

But he was then shockingly beaten by a journeyman in his 10th fight, and never really got his career back on track.

His last fight was in 2007 ( a defeat to Steve Forbes) and he finished with an 18-3 mark, 12 KO's.

Bojado seemed to lack discipline and conditioning.

Perhaps he couldn't handle fame's bright lights and got carried away with himself.

Promise unfulfilled.

Amnat Ruenroeng seemed to go down hard and fast

Gerry Cooney. Went no where after fighting Holmes. Too much "up his nose"

Big John Tate: Won HW title, then lost it and went straight to the bottom.

oogiebe wrote: ↑05 Jun 2018, 15:29 Gerry Cooney. Went no where after fighting Holmes. Too much "up his nose"

Big John Tate: Won HW title, then lost it and went straight to the bottom.

Tate's a great example of a fighter who fell apart in one round and never recovered his mojo.

After Holmes, Cooney may have gone as far as his talent would let him.

But it's hard to say since he pretty much was semi-retired for the remainder of his career.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑05 Jun 2018, 07:39

Like a Boss wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 19:17

IKSRTFO wrote: ↑04 Jun 2018, 09:47

I don't really consider that a downfall as he never fought again so who knows if he actually declined as far as talent goes.

Never fighting again is total downfall.

He swanned off in to the sunset with his $21m and enjoyed life BTW that was a lot of money back then

I don't begrudge him a cent of it. I was a huge Michael Spinks fan. One of the greats in my opinion.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑03 Jun 2018, 23:29 Chris Algeri.
Showed grit and skill against Ruslan. Got Lacy-hyped by the press. Won the title and boom- Pac pulped him, Khan boxed rings around him, and Spence made him kiss more canvas than Trump kisses babies.
Nice guy though.

Has he retired?