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Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 04:08
by Ruthless-RKO
There are currently quite a few names who are big for their weight class. Some have just moved up i.e. Inoue, but I'm talking from now. That would mean Inoue going straight up to featherweight for example.
My pick would be Jarrett Hurd. The world champion he'd beat? Easy. James DeGale.
He's probably the same size as DeGale. He'd pressure hi constantly. DeGale would be a fool and hang on the ropes most likely, which is a mistake he made in Truax I. Whether he'd do well against other SMW's, that's a different question.
There are a few other names out their you could consider and state which champion they'd beat.
Most recent to try were Brook and Rigo. Both didn't last the distance.
P.S. Technically before this Saturday, Crawford's last fight was at 140, so it would be if you reckon he would win a LMW belt. I know Arum's already said he won't go higher.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 04:25
by Mexi-Box
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 04:08
There are currently quite a few names who are big for their weight class. Some have just moved up i.e. Inoue, but I'm talking from now. That would mean Inoue going straight up to featherweight for example.
My pick would be Jarrett Hurd. The world champion he'd beat? Easy. James DeGale.
He's probably the same size as DeGale. He'd pressure hi constantly. DeGale would be a fool and hang on the ropes most likely, which is a mistake he made in Truax I. Whether he'd do well against other SMW's, that's a different question.
There are a few other names out their you could consider and state which champion they'd beat.
Most recent to try were Brook and Rigo. Both didn't last the distance.
P.S. Technically before this Saturday, Crawford's last fight was at 140, so it would be if you reckon he would win a LMW belt. I know Arum's already said he won't go higher.
Crawford gets crushed at LMW. It's too good right now, and all the top fighters there are MWs draining down. Well, not that it's too good but good big guy beats good little guy. Let's put it that way.
Inoue is my pick. I think he can easily move up to featherweight and beat the guy that just beat Selby (forgot his name). He pretty much has the frame of a featherweight. Guy still looks big at bantamweight.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 04:40
by Ruthless-RKO
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 04:25
Inoue is my pick. I think he can easily move up to featherweight and beat the guy that just beat Selby (forgot his name). He pretty much has the frame of a featherweight. Guy still looks big at bantamweight.
Was gonna say. Josh Warrington wouldn't stand with Inoue for 12 rounds.
Inoue would probably give any other world champs at featherweight a tough fight.
BTW, I've opened the poll up so you can vote for more than 1.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 05:00
by Deleted_Scenes
Inoue probably could beat Josh Warrington. Zolani Tete probably could too.
On his last showing, Stevenson is ripe for the taking. The only question there is, has Golovkin aged too much to beat him given the weight difference. 2013-2016 GGG smashes the current Stevenson to bits.
Once the vacant titles at 130 fall into fresh hands, I reckon Isaac Dogboe would be at least even money against any of them, assuming it's not Berchelt, Davis or Machado picking them up straight away.
Ryosuke Iwasa is a weak champion at super bantamweight too. I reckon Sor Rungvisai or maybe even Estrada could take him.
Not so sure about Hurd beating DeGale. Hurd is generally a weight bully, who uses his size to grind his opponent down. He wouldn't be able to do that at 168. I'd give Jermell Charlo a better shot at winning that fight.
Based on who's currently got belts, I'm going with Srisaket beating Iwasa.
Based on where belts are likely to go, I'd probably pick Dogboe.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 05:15
by Heretic
Jarrell Miller

Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 07:17
by Nightmare Roy
Inoue could unify the super middle weight division

kin beast!
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 08:27
by DrDuke
Picked Inoue with Hurd. And Crawford is a bit less likely to do it.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 08:32
by Ruthless-RKO
Mikey Garcia is lightweight, could he move up and outbox Thurman? Horn? Spence?
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 08:39
by DrDuke
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 08:32
Mikey Garcia is lightweight, could he move up and outbox Thurman? Horn? Spence?
I highly doubt about him outboxing Spence.
Thurman? Actually should also be not likely, but with those injuries, long time-off for Thurman... Who knows? Gotta see him back first.
Horn fight provides more chances for Mikey, but still Garcia can be mauled down there, I believe.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 12:44
by Mexi-Box
Actually, I give Mikey a great shot against Thurman and Danny Garcia. He can outbox Thurman. Thurman is a boxer-puncher, and he doesn't use his weight. He can also get extremely negative. Mikey is a superior boxer.
Now, Spence Jr. is another story. Guy is huge and isn't afraid to walk through small guys. Crawford is probably the best boxer currently at WW. Great big guy beats great little guy for Mikey/Crawford.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 12:48
by ValMar
Nobody, definitely.............
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 12:51
by gilgamesh
Mikey could beat Thurman, Porter, Horn or the likes of those guys. Not saying he WOULD beat them, but I think he certainly could.
Inoue moving up to Featherweight, and beating some top guys wouldn't shock me.
Hurd is big for 154, and I could easily see him being too much for David Benavidez or Callum Smith or somebody like that at this stage.
I love GGG, but I can't see him being able to carry his success up to 175.
Spence moving up to 160, and beating one of the Champs there wouldn't really shock me, but the move of jumping 2 weight classes and bypassing 154 altogether would.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 18:35
by Lackeos
This thread could be retitled "which good boxers are tall skeletons?"
Jarrett Hurd
Robert Easter Jr
Jaime Munguia
Mohamed Mimoune
Miguel Berchelt
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 18:37
by gilgamesh
Lackeos wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 18:35
This thread could be retitled "which good boxers are tall skeletons?"
Jarrett Hurd
Robert Easter Jr
Jaime Munguia
Mohamed Mimoune
Miguel Berchelt
Easter barely manages to maintain his title at 135 against less than Elite contenders. I doubt he has any kind of World Title success beyond 135.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 18:43
by Lackeos
gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 18:37
Lackeos wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 18:35
This thread could be retitled "which good boxers are tall skeletons?"
Jarrett Hurd
Robert Easter Jr
Jaime Munguia
Mohamed Mimoune
Miguel Berchelt
Easter barely manages to maintain his title at 135 against less than Elite contenders. I doubt he has any kind of World Title success beyond 135.
Easter is an emaciated skeleton at 135. Being that skinny and weight drained is very weakening and is probably a factor in why he struggles to compete at 135. If he got to eat more, add some muscle, drain less water weight, and improve the hormonal imbalances that he probably suffers from starving himself, he would probably be a lot stronger and more energetic.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 19:35
by Boxing Prospect
Kyoguchi could probably move from 105 to 112 if he skipped his fall bout and returned in December...
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 19:36
by gilgamesh
Lackeos wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 18:43
gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 18:37
Lackeos wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 18:35
This thread could be retitled "which good boxers are tall skeletons?"
Jarrett Hurd
Robert Easter Jr
Jaime Munguia
Mohamed Mimoune
Miguel Berchelt
Easter barely manages to maintain his title at 135 against less than Elite contenders. I doubt he has any kind of World Title success beyond 135.
Easter is an emaciated skeleton at 135. Being that skinny and weight drained is very weakening and is probably a factor in why he struggles to compete at 135. If he got to eat more, add some muscle, drain less water weight, and improve the hormonal imbalances that he probably suffers from starving himself, he would probably be a lot stronger and more energetic.
Possibly. Moving up 1 weight class often does improve guys' performances, and 140 isn't exactly the deepest division in the world right now so I could see him possibly picking up a belt there.
Easter vs Broner at 140 might be interesting.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 20:48
by Mexi-Box
gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 12:51
Mikey could beat Thurman, Porter, Horn or the likes of those guys. Not saying he WOULD beat them, but I think he certainly could.
Inoue moving up to Featherweight, and beating some top guys wouldn't shock me.
Hurd is big for 154, and I could easily see him being too much for David Benavidez or Callum Smith or somebody like that at this stage.
I love GGG, but I can't see him being able to carry his success up to 175.
Spence moving up to 160, and beating one of the Champs there wouldn't really shock me, but the move of jumping 2 weight classes and bypassing 154 altogether would.
Mikey would have to be at his best to beat Porter.
No way Hurd does anything to Benavidez or Smith. Hurd's best asset is his size, and at SMW, he'll be the smaller man in the ring. Smith and Benavidez are gigantic.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 06 Jun 2018, 20:52
by gilgamesh
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 20:48
gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 Jun 2018, 12:51
Mikey could beat Thurman, Porter, Horn or the likes of those guys. Not saying he WOULD beat them, but I think he certainly could.
Inoue moving up to Featherweight, and beating some top guys wouldn't shock me.
Hurd is big for 154, and I could easily see him being too much for David Benavidez or Callum Smith or somebody like that at this stage.
I love GGG, but I can't see him being able to carry his success up to 175.
Spence moving up to 160, and beating one of the Champs there wouldn't really shock me, but the move of jumping 2 weight classes and bypassing 154 altogether would.
Mikey would have to be at his best to beat Porter.
No way Hurd does anything to Benavidez or Smith. Hurd's best asset is his size, and at SMW, he'll be the smaller man in the ring. Smith and Benavidez are gigantic.
Yeah I wouldn't favor him against either of those guys, but he'd have a slight chance I think.
But yeah I agree his biggest asset is his size and strength advantage. I think he'll be significantly less effective when he outgrows the Jr. Middleweight division which seems inevitable that he will in the next couple years.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 07 Jun 2018, 09:44
by jujigatame
Why is Rungvisai not on the list? He's very big for 115, and 122 is not exactly a stacked division right now. I'd give him a better shot than Inoue who has already moved up 3 times and would be moving into a very tough featherweight division.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 07 Jun 2018, 22:19
by Lackeos
I should also point out that Robert Easter is way taller and rangier than anyone in the welterweight top 10. The only thing he's missing is muscle on his frame.
He is taller and rangier than typical LMW's as well. However, right at the moment, the LMW top 10 is full of freaks. Hurd is a 6' 1" freak, Charlo is a 5' 11" semi-freak, Munguia is a 6' 0" freak, Julian Williams is a 5' 11" semi-freak, Brian Castano is a 6' 1" freak, and Sam Eggington is a 5' 11" semi-freak. Usually the 154 divisional top 10 is filled with guys who are 5' 8" to 5' 10". But right now is one of the freakiest periods in the division's history, size-wise.
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 07 Jun 2018, 22:22
by jamamb
brian castano is like 5'8, try actually watching the fights for once
Re: Boxers Most Capable of Moving Up 2 Divisions to Win a World Title in their Next Fight
Posted: 08 Jun 2018, 01:17
by paddy chavez
Tete could without much trouble I'd say