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Finally...

oogiebe wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 11:38 http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... ddie-hearn

Finally...

The same was posted to the following thread yesterday and people have already commented on it: "Rumour Mill: Joshua-Wilder?"

Except he hasn't gotten the terms yet:

https://www.BS.com/hearn-well- ... ct--129039

If you've followed boxing long enough, you know it never "finally" until those pesky contracts are signed.

Until then, I just consider it empty talk. And there's been plenty of that surrounding negotiations of this fight.

Hell, it's never "finally" until the first bell rings.

The article link you provided should put to rest the idea by some here that the fight will take place Sept. 15.

A Canelo PPV fight is pretty much etched in stone on that date, so Joshua-Wilder would be set back to October or November.

Unless, of course, a spurned Povetkin tries to intervene and demands his mandatory first.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 11:50 If you've followed boxing long enough, you know it never "finally" until those pesky contracts are signed.

Until then, I just consider it empty talk. And there's been plenty of that surrounding negotiations of this fight.

Hell, it's never "finally" until the first bell rings.

The article link you provided should put to rest the idea by some here that the fight will take place Sept. 15.

A Canelo PPV fight is pretty much etched in stone on that date, so Joshua-Wilder would be set back to October or November.

Unless, of course, a spurned Povetkin tries to intervene and demands his mandatory first.

Yep, i never believe a word of it until i see them in the dressing room getting their hands wrapped.

I think that it's legit and come Fall, we'll finally get this one. I love that it's possibly a 2 fight deal that would be mammoth for the sport of Boxing. If these 2 guys put on a show that we think that they will and we somehow get 2 of these bouts over the span of a year starting in the Fall, the sport will be in the best shape it's been in perhaps ever. If their first fight is a classic then the rematch could break some serious PPV records i think.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 17:18 I think that it's legit and come Fall, we'll finally get this one. I love that it's possibly a 2 fight deal that would be mammoth for the sport of Boxing. If these 2 guys put on a show that we think that they will and we somehow get 2 of these bouts over the span of a year starting in the Fall, the sport will be in the best shape it's been in perhaps ever. If their first fight is a classic then the rematch could break some serious PPV records i think.

In the UK obviously.

I think it does disappointing numbers on the US PPV market.

Actually, the best commercial scenario is Wilder's dramatic KO win in UK

That will bring real US PPV numbers and a lot of Las Vegas money....whoever wins the rematch

SenorPipino wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 17:58

caldo2025 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 17:18 I think that it's legit and come Fall, we'll finally get this one. I love that it's possibly a 2 fight deal that would be mammoth for the sport of Boxing. If these 2 guys put on a show that we think that they will and we somehow get 2 of these bouts over the span of a year starting in the Fall, the sport will be in the best shape it's been in perhaps ever. If their first fight is a classic then the rematch could break some serious PPV records i think.

In the UK obviously.

I think it does disappointing numbers on the US PPV market.

I disagree. I think that even if the first of their fights were in Vegas or NYC, it would be the hottest ticket in town here in the US. America has been dying to bring the old days back when the biggest stars in entertainment (actors, singers, athletes, politics) would all be seen at a heavyweight championship bout. I think that everyone underestimates America's love for the heavyweight championship. It still means a lot to many here. Wilder can't really call himself the champ so it's the only thing keeping Wilder from being a household name here. Wilder/AJ would do better in US than GGG/Canelo.

stellar wrote: ↑17 Jun 2018, 13:06

I laughed way too hard at this

In my opinion, Hearn is making Joshua look kind of weak with all of his bs talk. It's pretty obvious that Hearn wants to have Joshua fight Povetkin this fall instead of fight Wilder.

_Rango_ wrote: ↑17 Jun 2018, 14:27 In my opinion, Hearn is making Joshua look kind of weak with all of his bs talk. It's pretty obvious that Hearn wants to have Joshua fight Povetkin this fall instead of fight Wilder.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 Jun 2018, 06:58

SenorPipino wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 17:58

caldo2025 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2018, 17:18 I think that it's legit and come Fall, we'll finally get this one. I love that it's possibly a 2 fight deal that would be mammoth for the sport of Boxing. If these 2 guys put on a show that we think that they will and we somehow get 2 of these bouts over the span of a year starting in the Fall, the sport will be in the best shape it's been in perhaps ever. If their first fight is a classic then the rematch could break some serious PPV records i think.

In the UK obviously.

I think it does disappointing numbers on the US PPV market.

I disagree. I think that even if the first of their fights were in Vegas or NYC, it would be the hottest ticket in town here in the US. America has been dying to bring the old days back when the biggest stars in entertainment (actors, singers, athletes, politics) would all be seen at a heavyweight championship bout. I think that everyone underestimates America's love for the heavyweight championship. It still means a lot to many here. Wilder can't really call himself the champ so it's the only thing keeping Wilder from being a household name here. Wilder/AJ would do better in US than GGG/Canelo.

How many drinks for you?

Wilder/Joshua would do better than Canelo-Golovkin in the US?

Maybe in the United States of Alabama, but in most parts of the country it's "Wilder/Joshua who?"

Americans haven't given a whit about heavyweight boxing since the days of Tyson, Holyfield and Bowe.

Ask just about anyone here to name a current heavyweight champion and they'll either look at you blankly or mumble "Tyson?"

Where exactly is the American fan base for Wilder/Joshua to make it a PPV hit?

At least Canelo vs Golovkin has the huge latino/Mexican market supporting it.

They're by far, the biggest followers of boxing in the sport. Take away the latinos and you couldn't keep boxeo alive in America.

Canelo-Golovkin attracted 1.3 million American PPV buyers to their first fight.

If either of them knew how to promote a fight it would have done far better.

But it's still a figure that Wilder/Joshua can only dream of equaling.

Maybe Wilder's mouth and personality can help promote the hell out of the fight, but anything more than 500,000 buys is stretching it.

I do agree, however, that at the arena, the fight would be a hot ticket.

But that's only because 25,000 frenzied British will descend on Las Vegas or wherever, and buy up all the tickets.

Americans will simply look at the marquee, see "Wilder vs Joshua," then shrug, and keep on walking past

Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

No news for a fews days, not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing

I reckon AJ will fight Povetkin next instead of Wilder.

The Brit has mandatory challenger obligations to fulfil and continuing negotiations with Team Wilder for such a long time, whilst also remaining inactive, will inevitably result in Joshua missing out on a potential $20m payday against Povetkin in September.

My guess is that Matchroom will announce a Joshua-Povetkin bout before the end of the week if Wilder doesn't agree to Eddie Hearn's terms that are stipulated in the contract that Deontay and his representatives are already in possession of.

I’d love to be proven wrong about this, but I’m becoming more confident, as the weeks go by, that we won’t get to see a bout between Wilder and AJ until Summer 2019.

I have repeatedly said all the talk and promises are meaningless until a contract is signed.

If you've followed boxing long enough, then you should know better.

Mayweather/Pacquiao proved that as long as both stock keep rising... the long the wait, the more the money.

I figured both will fight twice before each other.

Joshua needs time to get his weight down and get accustom to the smaller frame.

And Wilder needs to build up his profile more.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑18 Jun 2018, 10:07 I reckon AJ will fight Povetkin next instead of Wilder.

The Brit has mandatory challenger obligations to fulfil and continuing negotiations with Team Wilder for such a long time, whilst also remaining inactive, will inevitably result in Joshua missing out on a potential $20m payday against Povetkin in September.

My guess is that Matchroom will announce a Joshua-Povetkin bout before the end of the week if Wilder doesn't agree to Eddie Hearn's terms that are stipulated in the contract that Deontay and his representatives are already in possession of.

I’d love to be proven wrong about this, but I’m becoming more confident, as the weeks go by, that we won’t get to see a bout between Wilder and AJ until Summer 2019.

If that's true - which i doubt - I'd love that, because i think that Sasha will win...which is just why i doubt it. Wilder"s handlers already showed that they want no part of tbe Russian and i think Joshua's will do the same. One, they want to keep the us-uk monopoly on the crooked sport,, and two, they've been saving Joshua and Wilder to cash out in a big money fight between them. They've already almost lost their Wilder cash cow a few times - journeyman Molina had him in big trouble and they had to get him to back off, and then they had to trot out their ring doctor and referee lady and donkey act to save him against Ortiz. Not to mention Harold Sconiers.

As per a prediction I made a few days ago, Eddie Hearn has just stated following during an interview that took place less than four hours ago:

"Time running out to finalise Deontay Wilder vs Anthony Joshua, warns Eddie Hearn"

Deontay Wilder has yet to return a signed contract to Anthony Joshua and Eddie Hearn has warned the American his fighter will not wait much longer.

Joshua issued his heavyweight rival with a contract last week after Wilder had announced he was ready to accept the Brit’s terms and fight in the UK.

Wilder and Joshua have been in talks over a historic unification showdown for several months, but there have been disagreements between the two camps.

Hearn has insisted again and again Wilder’s team could be bluffing and the Matchroom promoter confirmed Joshua was close to walking away from the negotiations and finalising a clash with his mandatory challenger, Alexander Povetkin.

‘They [Anthony Joshua and his trainer] want to get moving,’ Hearn told Sky Sports.

‘They boxed March 31, so he’s had a nice break. They would like to know, they would like a decision.

‘Of course he wants the Wilder fight. He wants to be the undisputed champion, but if it’s going to be slow-tracked, if people are going to mess around, if it’s going to drag on, they would rather jump in and say okay, let’s go end of September with Povetkin, and then keep the discussions going with Wilder, but sign now.’

He added: ‘If Wilder says we’re good to go [with regards to signing the contract], that’s almost certainly going to be the next fight.’

Povetkin is far from the fight boxing fans will want to see, but the big-hitter will represent a difficult challenge for Joshua.

The Russian has twice failed drug tests, but staked his claim for a shot at Joshua in March with a gruesome knockout of David Price on the undercard of the Brit’s unification fight against Joseph Parker.

Wilder has always denied Hearn’s taunts, while his manager Shelly Finkel said they are reviewing the contract they received last week.

Contract was received Tuesday June 19, four days late.

marvelous marv wrote: ↑20 Jun 2018, 07:15 Contract was received Tuesday June 19, four days late.

It was received before Tuesday 19th June and Team Wilder didn't dictate a deadline. Hearn said he hoped to send it by close of play Friday 15th June.

Do you not have access to google?

marvelous marv wrote: ↑20 Jun 2018, 08:00 Do you not have access to google?

Yes. I recommend that you revise your claim about Eddie Hearn delivering the contract four days late, because you're embellishing.