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Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 15:18
by apollo creed
Asking for 50-50 % and then get 42% over initial 35% is very good. GGG could get totally outclassed by Canelo in the rematch but at least he's gonna get paid very well. :OhYes: :TU:

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 16:39
by Nightmare Roy
He'll beat the clean version even easier than last time, obviously he'll get robbed in the cards again.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 18:13
by squiggy
Take it somewhere else, Roy! This forum is for talking about how much money fighters have.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 19:13
by Enlightened-One
squiggy wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 18:13 Take it somewhere else, Roy! This forum is for talking about how much money fighters have.
People compete in professional boxing to get paid.

Money dictates those fights that get made, as well as those that don't.

It's only natural for fight fans to scrutinise the fiscal element of our beloved sport.

If money didn't matter, all fighters would compete as amateurs.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 19:17
by Ilya Muromets
Please explain this to me. I don't understand it. Why is GGG expected to fight for less money than Canelo? Also, why fight in Mafia Vegas where fights are guaranteed to be fixed one way or another?

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 14 Jun 2018, 19:20
by Loki
x2x wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 19:17 Please explain this to me. I don't understand it. Why is GGG expected to fight for less money than Canelo? Also, why fight in Mafia Vegas where fights are guaranteed to be fixed one way or another?
I think GGG will KO Canelo. He has his number. To answer your question, Canelo is the bigger draw PPV wise due to his huge following in the US and Mexico.

I do agree that Team GGG are a little silly to have it in Vegas, but all in all, it really doesn’t matter as Golden Boy will have gotten to all the judges.

GGG has to KO Canelo.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:03
by apollo creed
Nightmare Roy wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 16:39 He'll beat the clean version even easier than last time, obviously he'll get robbed in the cards again.
We don't know for sure what Canelo did in this period and when he's gonna have the 1st test. There is a gap of time.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:04
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 19:13
squiggy wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 18:13 Take it somewhere else, Roy! This forum is for talking about how much money fighters have.
People compete in professional boxing to get paid.

Money dictates those fights that get made, as well as those that don't.

It's only natural for fight fans to scrutinise the fiscal element of our beloved sport.

If money didn't matter, all fighters would compete as amateurs.
:TU:

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:14
by apollo creed
x2x wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 19:17 Please explain this to me. I don't understand it. Why is GGG expected to fight for less money than Canelo? Also, why fight in Mafia Vegas where fights are guaranteed to be fixed one way or another?
Well Canelo brings more money due the views / followers. He generates a much bigger income to the networks. GGG's purse against Vanes was 1 M and Canelo's purse against Liam Smith was around $3.5 million pre-fight guarantee, not including proceeds from Mexican TV and PPV incentives.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:14
by boxing_rocks
https://sports.yahoo.com/not-giving-osc ... 09877.html
In a May 3 interview with Yahoo Sports, the normally easygoing Golovkin interrupted a question about the purse split during an interview with Yahoo Sports.

“Money, it’s good, you know?” Golovkin said. “But it’s not all about the money. It’s about what is right and what is not right. There is more to life than just [money].”

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:16
by apollo creed
Loki wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 19:20
x2x wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 19:17 Please explain this to me. I don't understand it. Why is GGG expected to fight for less money than Canelo? Also, why fight in Mafia Vegas where fights are guaranteed to be fixed one way or another?
I think GGG will KO Canelo. He has his number. To answer your question, Canelo is the bigger draw PPV wise due to his huge following in the US and Mexico.

I do agree that Team GGG are a little silly to have it in Vegas, but all in all, it really doesn’t matter as Golden Boy will have gotten to all the judges.

GGG has to KO Canelo.
IMO I think Canelo wins by clear UD. His speed would be too much for old Golovkin.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 12:18
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 12:14 https://sports.yahoo.com/not-giving-osc ... 09877.html
In a May 3 interview with Yahoo Sports, the normally easygoing Golovkin interrupted a question about the purse split during an interview with Yahoo Sports.

“Money, it’s good, you know?” Golovkin said. “But it’s not all about the money. It’s about what is right and what is not right. There is more to life than just [money].”
Ok then why GGG didn't accept that 35% if money don't matter ? :OhYes: :D

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 15:18
by boxing_rocks
apollo creed wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 12:18
boxing_rocks wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 12:14 https://sports.yahoo.com/not-giving-osc ... 09877.html
In a May 3 interview with Yahoo Sports, the normally easygoing Golovkin interrupted a question about the purse split during an interview with Yahoo Sports.

“Money, it’s good, you know?” Golovkin said. “But it’s not all about the money. It’s about what is right and what is not right. There is more to life than just [money].”
Ok then why GGG didn't accept that 35% if money don't matter ? :OhYes: :D
Because he didn't want to be a such obvious B side for the cheating diva. He was making a point that his opinion matters.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 15 Jun 2018, 18:07
by Enlightened-One
boxing_rocks wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 15:18
apollo creed wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 12:18
Ok then why GGG didn't accept that 35% if money don't matter ? :OhYes: :D
Because he didn't want to be a such obvious B side for the cheating diva. He was making a point that his opinion matters.
You're so intent on defending GGG's actions that you've lost all contact with reality.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 02:56
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 15:18
apollo creed wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 12:18
Ok then why GGG didn't accept that 35% if money don't matter ? :OhYes: :D
Because he didn't want to be a such obvious B side for the cheating diva. He was making a point that his opinion matters.
Agree but also I could say if GGG was all glory and pride he could've said : " F-ck Canelo with all his diva demands and actions and I'd take on Cinco de Mayo Sergiy Derevyanchenko then in September I'd unify my titles with Saunders to make history"?!

As I said GGG did a smart move because at the end of the day money pays your bills when you're retired and old but he should've kept it real about the importance of the money.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 04:11
by SFW
Golovkin took some of Canelo's money lol, demanded it and got it. GBP and the doper bent over and gave it up. GGG probably laughed at Fishnet's "deadline". Lo and behold, a miracle happened lol. How on Earth you spinsters believe G is to blame for bargaining for better $, whilst the doped up fraud shits all over the sport while robbing it, is beyond comprehension. Might be the saddest excuse for a fan mentality out there. Driven by much bias and little fact. It is devoutly wished, that Alvarez be knocked spark out, to avoid another blatant robbery and subsequent outcry of corruption.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 04:12
by Loki
apollo creed wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 12:16
Loki wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 19:20
x2x wrote: 14 Jun 2018, 19:17 Please explain this to me. I don't understand it. Why is GGG expected to fight for less money than Canelo? Also, why fight in Mafia Vegas where fights are guaranteed to be fixed one way or another?
I think GGG will KO Canelo. He has his number. To answer your question, Canelo is the bigger draw PPV wise due to his huge following in the US and Mexico.

I do agree that Team GGG are a little silly to have it in Vegas, but all in all, it really doesn’t matter as Golden Boy will have gotten to all the judges.

GGG has to KO Canelo.
IMO I think Canelo wins by clear UD. His speed would be too much for old Golovkin.
Really, like the first fight? GGG won at least 8 rounds. Canelo without PEDS gets battered.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 06:19
by apollo creed
I'm definitely rooting for Golovkin to stop Canelo and make justice but I think Golovkin would look "aging overnight" in this rematch and Canelo would look sharp and crisp on counters and movement.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 06:31
by caldo2025
I'd argue that GGG couldn't be in a better position heading into a fight against Canelo:

#1 Everyone knows that he was robbed in the first fight. All of Boxing has their eyes on the judges in this fight. One more pathetic scorecard in Canelo's favor will be too ridiculous to overlook for fans, boxers and everyone else in the sport. The backlash will be 10x's what it was after the first fight. No, they can't rob him again. In fact, since they are being watched, i'd say GGG may get a more favorable scorecard.

#2 Canelo must be a purely clean fighter heading into this one right? I'm sure that there's a way around anything but it's a lot to risk if your Canelo so i'm assuming that he'll be clean and bring only 70% of what he brought in the first one.

GGG gets more money for fighting a lesser opponent...genius.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 06:59
by apollo creed
caldo2025 wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 06:31 I'd argue that GGG couldn't be in a better position heading into a fight against Canelo:

#1 Everyone knows that he was robbed in the first fight. All of Boxing has their eyes on the judges in this fight. One more pathetic scorecard in Canelo's favor will be too ridiculous to overlook for fans, boxers and everyone else in the sport. The backlash will be 10x's what it was after the first fight. No, they can't rob him again. In fact, since they are being watched, i'd say GGG may get a more favorable scorecard.

#2 Canelo must be a purely clean fighter heading into this one right? I'm sure that there's a way around anything but it's a lot to risk if your Canelo so i'm assuming that he'll be clean and bring only 70% of what he brought in the first one.

GGG gets more money for fighting a lesser opponent...genius.
I would not underestimate Canelo as a fighter. PEDS or not, he's a hell of a fighter.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 10:03
by boxing_rocks
apollo creed wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 02:56
boxing_rocks wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 15:18
apollo creed wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 12:18

Ok then why GGG didn't accept that 35% if money don't matter ? :OhYes: :D
Because he didn't want to be a such obvious B side for the cheating diva. He was making a point that his opinion matters.
Agree but also I could say if GGG was all glory and pride he could've said : " F-ck Canelo with all his diva demands and actions and I'd take on Cinco de Mayo Sergiy Derevyanchenko then in September I'd unify my titles with Saunders to make history"?!

As I said GGG did a smart move because at the end of the day money pays your bills when you're retired and old but he should've kept it real about the importance of the money.
He couldn't possibly have fought Derevo in May. Derevo wouldn't even be able to make weight so fast to say nothing of a need to promote a fight against a totally unknown opponent. That whole situation was a big mistake of Loeffler who had to have Derevo on standby as a backup.

Golovkin did keep it real:
Money, it’s good, you know?” Golovkin said. “But it’s not all about the money. It’s about what is right and what is not right. There is more to life than just [money].”

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 12:22
by apollo creed
apollo creed wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 06:59
caldo2025 wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 06:31 I'd argue that GGG couldn't be in a better position heading into a fight against Canelo:

#1 Everyone knows that he was robbed in the first fight. All of Boxing has their eyes on the judges in this fight. One more pathetic scorecard in Canelo's favor will be too ridiculous to overlook for fans, boxers and everyone else in the sport. The backlash will be 10x's what it was after the first fight. No, they can't rob him again. In fact, since they are being watched, i'd say GGG may get a more favorable scorecard.

#2 Canelo must be a purely clean fighter heading into this one right? I'm sure that there's a way around anything but it's a lot to risk if your Canelo so i'm assuming that he'll be clean and bring only 70% of what he brought in the first one.

GGG gets more money for fighting a lesser opponent...genius.
I would not underestimate Canelo as a fighter. PEDS or not, he's a hell of a fighter.
Ok. :TU: Anyway it's good to hear he is gonna get paid very well and not be lowballed.

Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 16 Jun 2018, 14:18
by boxing_rocks
boxing_rocks wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 10:03
apollo creed wrote: 16 Jun 2018, 02:56
boxing_rocks wrote: 15 Jun 2018, 15:18
Because he didn't want to be a such obvious B side for the cheating diva. He was making a point that his opinion matters.
Agree but also I could say if GGG was all glory and pride he could've said : " F-ck Canelo with all his diva demands and actions and I'd take on Cinco de Mayo Sergiy Derevyanchenko then in September I'd unify my titles with Saunders to make history"?!

As I said GGG did a smart move because at the end of the day money pays your bills when you're retired and old but he should've kept it real about the importance of the money.
He couldn't possibly have fought Derevo in May. Derevo wouldn't even be able to make weight so fast to say nothing of a need to promote a fight against a totally unknown opponent. That whole situation was a big mistake of Loeffler who had to have Derevo on standby as a backup.

Golovkin did keep it real:
Money, it’s good, you know?” Golovkin said. “But it’s not all about the money. It’s about what is right and what is not right. There is more to life than just [money].”
Here is another proof that it isn't just about money:


Re: Golovkin did very well ! 42% is great money to retire!

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 11:36
by boxing_rocks
Oscar says that he threw his own money to make the fight happen:

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2018/06/ ... m-collapse