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Late mayweather was very tentetive, very accurate. He waited, he countered. He was patient and did this for 12 rds.

Crawford takes a lil bit more risks, but overall a boring effective boxer, same as fmj.

No

He's significantly more offensive minded. He's a switch hitter whereas Mayweather almost always fought in the orthodox stance. Mayweather was always a defense first/offense second kinda guy whereas Crawford will attack aggressively and go for the finish when he has his man hurt.

About the only thing they have in common really is they're Black and they were both highly rated P4P. Other than that they're quite different.

I see the greatest similarity between the two as the ability of both to adjust their game plan as a fight progresses. TC actually has a slight PHYSICAL edge in tat area because he can seamlessly switch from orthodox to southpaw and back again at a moment's notice. Even though Floyd is the more complete fighter, Crawford is probably more similar to Floyd in his giftings than any other current fighter.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 17:12 No

He's significantly more offensive minded. He's a switch hitter whereas Mayweather almost always fought in the orthodox stance. Mayweather was always a defense first/offense second kinda guy whereas Crawford will attack aggressively and go for the finish when he has his man hurt.

About the only thing they have in common really is they're Black and they were both highly rated P4P. Other than that they're quite different.

Didnt you see similaritys?

Tc waits mostly for his opponent to throw the first punch, than counters. Doesnt that sound like mayweather. Low punch output. Takes not many risks. Good puncher but a phenomenal one. I can see tc studied floyd a lot. He understands that waiting, saving energy and letting the opponent throw the first punch is effective cause ones somebodys throws a punch he is open to get countered.

Yeah he does tend to be a counter puncher, but more in the mold of a Juan Manuel Marquez than a Floyd Mayweather. He's more aggressive minded in his counter attack.

True

Before anything, I don't hide to say I am a big fan of Floyd and he is definitely in the top 5 P4P of all boxing history.

In general terms, Crawford is an offensive boxer as Mayweather in his bouts until Zab Judah bout, when most of his fights were defensive, more strategical ones and as some say, boring. Crawford can dodge well, defend, has a good guard, don't let take punches, has a high reaction time for defense, counter punch well, stay out of ropes, uses angles, be elusive in general, but all of this in not more than 50% Mayweather was in defense in his prime defense era.

Crawford is the best ambidextrous boxer since Marvin Hagler in the 80's and IMO is better then Hagler, because Hagler was like 60% better as southpaw (his standard stance) than the 40% as orthodox (switched) and Hagler fought switched in interleaved rounds while Crawford has already proven fighting an entire bout in switched stance and with more than 50% as skilled as his regular stance, something outstanding and worthy of just a very very highly skilled few, if not the only one.

Some fighters that use to fight a few seconds switched, when are under pressure, rapidly return to natural regular stance while Crawford sustain and keeps the switched while defending and doing all he does in regular stance.

As a Brazilian boxing expert wrote 2 years ago, "Crawford's expertise in boxing tends to increase, he is a good mix of Mayweather defense and Pacquiao offense and too soon become the P4P best fighter in the world". I totally agree with this, he couldn't be more accurate, Crawford is just like that offensively and defensively, but I would say with much more IQ offensively then Paquiao and less defensive IQ and skill than MoneyMay.

Crawford had a nice average pressure test vs Horn in first 4 rounds as Mayweather had against many good boxers and he did well defensively, it served for him as a test when facing more offensive boxers in ww like Porter or Spence.

Now IMO he is the 1st P4P above Lomachenko and the only real trheat in ww is Thurman, because Thurman is a mix of high ring IQ, defense-offense expertise and good power like Crawford and Spence because of Spence's high power.

Crawford is slightly naturally bigger than Floyd, and also a slightly stronger/bigger puncher.

I'd even say Crawford might be more naturally talented than Floyd especially offensively, and is more like a Pernell Whitaker/Roy Jones type of talent, that comes along once or twice(if we're lucky) in a generation.

Floyd's phrase "... I just make em look like shit" really applies more to what Crawford does to his opponents rather than what Floyd does imo.

Floyd was born into boxing but Crawford was clearly born to box!

Everytime this guy lets his hands go they find something, i've never seen anything like it since following boxing hard in the late 90's/early 2000's.

Without putting much thought into it, I'd rather compare Crawford to Sergio Martinez. They're both counterpunch-minded, but switch between aggressive and defensive gears, can hit you with bonkers power, but they don't hunt for the knockout for the full duration of the fight. Their KO percentages would be higher if they hit you with that big pop all fight long, but they don't.

Lackeos wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 18:09 Without putting much thought into it, I'd rather compare Crawford to Sergio Martinez. They're both counterpunch-minded, but switch between aggressive and defensive gears, can hit you with bonkers power, but they don't hunt for the knockout for the full duration of the fight. Their KO percentages would be higher if they hit you with that big pop all fight long, but they don't.

Exactly.

And not hunting for the ko saves a whole lot of energy. Good for the boxer, it is effective. But bad for the audience demanding action. There is nothing better in boxing, nothing more exciting than a elite boxer hunting kos. Thats why prime tyson will arguably be always the most fan liked boxer ever.

Hopefully not or he will not fight Spence in the next 10 years.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 19:59 Hopefully not or he will not fight Spence in the next 10 years.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 19:59 Hopefully not or he will not fight Spence in the next 10 years.

Yeah, like Floyd didn't fight and beat a who's who of fighters in 5 different weight divisions during a 20 year career.

On the grand scheme of things there's a few same attributes. I'm a Mayweather fan but he does my box in big time! I'd love to s,ash him up!

People don't tend to boo at Crawford fights.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 22:46

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 19:59 Hopefully not or he will not fight Spence in the next 10 years.

Yeah, like Floyd didn't fight and beat a who's who of fighters in 5 different weight divisions during a 20 year career.

He was definitely avoiding the most dangerous opponents in their prime at 147 and above.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 19:59 Hopefully not or he will not fight Spence in the next 10 years.

He is similar in some ways, with worse defense, but more entertaining to watch

SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 22:46

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 19:59 Hopefully not or he will not fight Spence in the next 10 years.

Yeah, like Floyd didn't fight and beat a who's who of fighters in 5 different weight divisions during a 20 year career.

Didnt he avoid casamayor and freitas when he was young?
Didnt he avoid margarito and williams, because they were tall, had high punch output and in prime shape?
Took 2 year vacation and had billion reasons not to face "prime" pacquiao.
Didnt he fight c level opponents at the end of his career like debut mcgregor or berto, when guys like spence, brook & thurman were around?

He is more similar to early Mayweather. As it has already been mentioned before, Crawford is far more offence-oriented than late Mayweather. Maybe overall he is more similar to Sugar Ray Leonard. They all had in common such feature, that they all were slick highly skilled technicians. And I believe, Crawford isn't just in their class skill-wise, but thus caliber-wise. I mean, Crawford has the potential to be recognised as a big phenomenon in boxing, just like those guys, and he is the process of realising this potential now.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 00:48

SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 22:46

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 19:59 Hopefully not or he will not fight Spence in the next 10 years.

Yeah, like Floyd didn't fight and beat a who's who of fighters in 5 different weight divisions during a 20 year career.

He was definitely avoiding the most dangerous opponents in their prime at 147 and above.

That's the same line fans probably use about every big name fighter.

When you fight only twice a year, as most elites do, it's difficult to work every boxer into your schedule.

And if somehow you eventually do, a new host of contenders arise, and detractors will say you're avoiding them too.

De La Hoya, Corrales, Canelo, Judah, Cotto, Gatti, Castillo, Pacquiao, Maidana, Mosley, Marquez, Hatton......

Just reviewing that list of HOF names makes it seem ludicrous and laughable that fans can accuse Mayweather of dodging talent.

His record is untouchable.

Is this for real? How in the world could you compare the two? Terrance Crawford is 10 times more athletic than Floyd was. TC is an offensive genius with the way he sets traps from both stances. Floyd was a defensive genius. TC brings the house down every fight with fantastic action and knockouts. Floyd mastered the art of the "boring" points victory. Floyd never risked getting hit for entertainment. TC doesn't have a round that he doesn't attempt to get the other guy out of there and get people up from their feet.

Floyd will always be a marketing genius and all time great businessman but inside the ring, he never took the risks required to be an ATG or GOAT for me. No one's done it better prior to a fight but I've never felt like one of Floyd's fights was worth the money. Not one.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 06:40 Is this for real? How in the world could you compare the two? Terrance Crawford is 10 times more athletic than Floyd was. TC is an offensive genius with the way he sets traps from both stances. Floyd was a defensive genius. TC brings the house down every fight with fantastic action and knockouts. Floyd mastered the art of the "boring" points victory. Floyd never risked getting hit for entertainment. TC doesn't have a round that he doesn't attempt to get the other guy out of there and get people up from their feet.

Floyd will always be a marketing genius and all time great businessman but inside the ring, he never took the risks required to be an ATG or GOAT for me. No one's done it better prior to a fight but I've never felt like one of Floyd's fights was worth the money. Not one.

I didn't even bother comparing the two.

I just responded to the tired allegation that Mayweather dodged fighters and never fought anyone.

You don't like Mayweather. I didn't find him the most exciting fighter on the planet but I appreciated his superb skills and mastery of opponents.

He fought in a style he was most comfortable with and that brought him unmatched success.

There's no reason to begrudge him for that.

He didn't climb into the ring to please the fans. He came into the ring to win, and he did that to the tune of a 50-0 mark.

And while I also appreciate Crawford's skills, at this stage, it's not even worth comparing him to a P4P great like Mayweather.

Crawford's resume is thin if you're searching for elite opposition. Mayweather's isn't.

Maybe in time, Crawford will actually fight and beat elite level boxers.

But until Crawford actually beats some HOF worthy opponents, (Horn doesn't qualify) then a comparison to Mayweather is really jumping the gun.

Mayweather had a way of making very talented fighters look ordinary.

Ten years from now, let's see if we can say the same about Crawford.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 06:36

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑16 Jun 2018, 00:48

SenorPipino wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 22:46

Yeah, like Floyd didn't fight and beat a who's who of fighters in 5 different weight divisions during a 20 year career.

He was definitely avoiding the most dangerous opponents in their prime at 147 and above.

That's the same line fans probably use about every big name fighter.

When you fight only twice a year, as most elites do, it's difficult to work every boxer into your schedule.

That is just a ridiculous statement. Any fighter was ready to drop anything and sign for a Mayweather paycheck.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Jun 2018, 17:12 No

He's significantly more offensive minded. He's a switch hitter whereas Mayweather almost always fought in the orthodox stance. Mayweather was always a defense first/offense second kinda guy whereas Crawford will attack aggressively and go for the finish when he has his man hurt.

About the only thing they have in common really is they're Black and they were both highly rated P4P. Other than that they're quite different.

I agree...........