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KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 12:08
by man
is there data on this? are heavier fights
more likely to end in knock out?

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 12:10
by Enlightened-One
Copy/paste the BoxRec rankings to Excel and analyse the data for yourself. :TU:

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 12:20
by man
Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 12:10 Copy/paste the BoxRec rankings to Excel and analyse the data for yourself. :TU:
great idea indeed!

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 13:40
by Boxing Prospect
The ratings on Boxrec doesn't have the KO's
If there any specific divisions you're looking at and I can run some quickly through Google sheets for say the top 20 + champions on the IBO website?

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 13:43
by jamamb
pretty sure i looked through this before. what i do recall is that the lowest divisions defo had lower ko rates overall. i think it was a gradual increase all the way to the top of the weights but cant recall exactly on that point

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 13:47
by Boxing Prospect
jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:43 pretty sure i looked through this before. what i do recall is that the lowest divisions defo had lower ko rates overall. i think it was a gradual increase all the way to the top of the weights but cant recall exactly on that point
Just using my mega limited sample


The Super Flyweights are bigger hitters than the Bantamweights but I suspect you're right overall barring one or two anomalies

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 14:34
by squiggy
To me it seems like the distribution of stoppages is probably more random than that, at least among championship level fighters.

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 19 Jun 2018, 15:11
by squiggy
I don't think the best heavyweights of my lifetime have won by stoppage any more often than light/light welterweights like Chavez, Pryor, Rosario, and Tszyu, bantam/super bantamweights like Austin, Gomez and Marquez, or fly/super flyweights like Gonzalez, Inoue, Nery and Sor Rungvisai.

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 01:40
by man
jamamb wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 13:43 pretty sure i looked through this before. what i do recall is that the lowest divisions defo had lower ko rates overall. i think it was a gradual increase all the way to the top of the weights but cant recall exactly on that point
a pity you don't have the numbers, but thanks!

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 01:42
by man
squiggy wrote: 19 Jun 2018, 15:11 I don't think the best heavyweights of my lifetime have won by stoppage any more often than light/light welterweights like Chavez, Pryor, Rosario, and Tszyu, bantam/super bantamweights like Austin, Gomez and Marquez, or fly/super flyweights like Gonzalez, Inoue, Nery and Sor Rungvisai.
overall thee should be a solid statistic on
this, since there are many observations
overall long period of time. has not much
to do with certain fighters in a certain time
span.

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 03:13
by computerrank
All world title bouts men of IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC, WBO with KO, TKO , RTD:

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division 		ko 	count(*) 	
Heavyweight 		0.6052 	385
Cruiserweight 		0.5672 	305
Light Heavyweight 	0.5413 	436
Super Middleweight 	0.4475 	362
Middleweight 		0.5407 	442
Light Middleweight 	0.4772 	417
Welterweight 		0.5190 	422
Light Welterweight 	0.5605 	446
Lightweight		0.4885 	434
Super Featherweight 	0.5022 	456
Featherweight 		0.5042 	480
Super Bantamweight 	0.5388 	425
Bantamweight 		0.4924 	461
Super Flyweight 	0.4243 	403
Flyweight 		0.4719 	481
Light Flyweight 	0.4869 	421
Minimumweight 		0.4352 	324

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 09:26
by man
computerrank wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 03:13 All world title bouts men of IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC, WBO with KO, TKO , RTD:

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division 		ko 	count(*) 	
Heavyweight 		0.6052 	385
Cruiserweight 		0.5672 	305
Light Heavyweight 	0.5413 	436
Super Middleweight 	0.4475 	362
Middleweight 		0.5407 	442
Light Middleweight 	0.4772 	417
Welterweight 		0.5190 	422
Light Welterweight 	0.5605 	446
Lightweight		0.4885 	434
Super Featherweight 	0.5022 	456
Featherweight 		0.5042 	480
Super Bantamweight 	0.5388 	425
Bantamweight 		0.4924 	461
Super Flyweight 	0.4243 	403
Flyweight 		0.4719 	481
Light Flyweight 	0.4869 	421
Minimumweight 		0.4352 	324
hey, man, fantastic! thnx!!

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 09:50
by jamamb
smws need to raise there f@cking game :yay:

ya in general though a greater stoppage rate higher up, but there are actually still quite a few good kos and knockdown filled fights lower down. sometimes ppl say there not interested in the smaller guys because of not much power, but they still do plenty of damage to each other!

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 10:18
by Sequitorian
computerrank wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 03:13 All world title bouts men of IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC, WBO with KO, TKO , RTD:

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division 		ko 	count(*) 	
Heavyweight 		0.6052 	385
Cruiserweight 		0.5672 	305
Light Heavyweight 	0.5413 	436
Super Middleweight 	0.4475 	362
Middleweight 		0.5407 	442
Light Middleweight 	0.4772 	417
Welterweight 		0.5190 	422
Light Welterweight 	0.5605 	446
Lightweight		0.4885 	434
Super Featherweight 	0.5022 	456
Featherweight 		0.5042 	480
Super Bantamweight 	0.5388 	425
Bantamweight 		0.4924 	461
Super Flyweight 	0.4243 	403
Flyweight 		0.4719 	481
Light Flyweight 	0.4869 	421
Minimumweight 		0.4352 	324
KO ... TKO ... Rtd ... separated? ...

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Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 10:36
by man
jamamb wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 09:50 smws need to raise there f@cking game :yay:

ya in general though a greater stoppage rate higher up, but there are actually still quite a few good kos and knockdown filled fights lower down. sometimes ppl say there not interested in the smaller guys because of not much power, but they still do plenty of damage to each other!
i used to be like that, appreciated more
the bigger guys. now i find the technical
fights at the lower weights much more
exciting. peak pac, now loma, how much
better could it get?

i was just interested in seeing if the idea
of more weight-more kos is a myth or
backed up by fact.

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 13:18
by computerrank
Sequitorian wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 10:18 KO ... TKO ... Rtd ... separated?

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 division 		ko 	tko 	rtd 	count(*) 	
Heavyweight 		0.1896 	0.3532 	0.0623 	385
Cruiserweight 		0.1443 	0.3738 	0.0492 	305
Light Heavyweight 	0.1193 	0.3417 	0.0803 	436
Super Middleweight 	0.1243 	0.2873 	0.0359 	362
Middleweight 		0.1403 	0.3394 	0.0611 	442
Light Middleweight 	0.1199 	0.3046 	0.0528 	417
Welterweight 		0.1161 	0.3483 	0.0545 	422
Light Welterweight 	0.1614 	0.3296 	0.0695 	446
Lightweight 		0.1336 	0.3226 	0.0323 	434
Super Featherweight 	0.1338 	0.3180 	0.0504 	456
Featherweight 		0.1542 	0.3021 	0.0479 	480
Super Bantamweight 	0.1388 	0.3341 	0.0659 	425
Bantamweight 		0.1779 	0.2755 	0.0390 	461
Super Flyweight 	0.1266 	0.2556 	0.0422 	403
Flyweight 		0.1185 	0.3222 	0.0312 	481
Light Flyweight 	0.1663 	0.2850 	0.0356 	421
Minimumweight 		0.1420 	0.2840 	0.0093 	324

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 13:42
by Sequitorian
Good job ... thanks ...

Re: KO stats per divsion

Posted: 20 Jun 2018, 14:31
by man
computerrank wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 13:18
Sequitorian wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 10:18 KO ... TKO ... Rtd ... separated?

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 division 		ko 	tko 	rtd 	count(*) 	
Heavyweight 		0.1896 	0.3532 	0.0623 	385
Cruiserweight 		0.1443 	0.3738 	0.0492 	305
Light Heavyweight 	0.1193 	0.3417 	0.0803 	436
Super Middleweight 	0.1243 	0.2873 	0.0359 	362
Middleweight 		0.1403 	0.3394 	0.0611 	442
Light Middleweight 	0.1199 	0.3046 	0.0528 	417
Welterweight 		0.1161 	0.3483 	0.0545 	422
Light Welterweight 	0.1614 	0.3296 	0.0695 	446
Lightweight 		0.1336 	0.3226 	0.0323 	434
Super Featherweight 	0.1338 	0.3180 	0.0504 	456
Featherweight 		0.1542 	0.3021 	0.0479 	480
Super Bantamweight 	0.1388 	0.3341 	0.0659 	425
Bantamweight 		0.1779 	0.2755 	0.0390 	461
Super Flyweight 	0.1266 	0.2556 	0.0422 	403
Flyweight 		0.1185 	0.3222 	0.0312 	481
Light Flyweight 	0.1663 	0.2850 	0.0356 	421
Minimumweight 		0.1420 	0.2840 	0.0093 	324
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