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Just had a look on the England Boxing site with a view of doing the Level 1.

You have to do the course over 2 weekends (£130)
Then you have to sort out your own First Aid course (£75) DBS check (£6) and go on a separate day to a Safeguarding children workshop (£10).

Seems a lot of hassle. Any thoughts ?

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2018, 13:40 Just had a look on the England Boxing site with a view of doing the Level 1.

You have to do the course over 2 weekends (£130)
Then you have to sort out your own First Aid course (£75) DBS check (£6) and go on a separate day to a Safeguarding children workshop (£10).

Seems a lot of hassle. Any thoughts ?

It is. England Boxing generally is a pain and very poorly run. A coach that I was chatting to about bringing his am club to spar my am club joined the Amateur Boxing Alliance which a number of the London clubs are now in and said it was far superior and was gutted that he had to switch back as until it spreads its minibuses down the motorway all the time for shows.
In my area there is at least one club that has somehow passed scrutiny without even having a boxing ring, one that has been letting an unlicensed club use their registration to put boxers out and one run by a man who has had domestic violence issues to the point that he wasn’t allowed near his own house but no conviction so that’s all fine :-/
HOWEVER, if you are outside London and want to get involved in proper amateur boxing you just have to work with it and tolerate it.

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2018, 13:40 Just had a look on the England Boxing site with a view of doing the Level 1.

You have to do the course over 2 weekends (£130)
Then you have to sort out your own First Aid course (£75) DBS check (£6) and go on a separate day to a Safeguarding children workshop (£10).

Seems a lot of hassle. Any thoughts ?

England Boxing, like all national governing bodies are having to move towards self sufficiency. Do the maths. 20 people on a course that is more often than not run in an existing gym for free, by coaches who get moderate expenses brings in some decent $$$$.

Plenty of other courses courses. £100 a day. £95 a day. £50 a day....................The world has changed. Volunteers now fund paid employees

Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: ↑30 Jun 2018, 21:28

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2018, 13:40 Just had a look on the England Boxing site with a view of doing the Level 1.

You have to do the course over 2 weekends (£130)
Then you have to sort out your own First Aid course (£75) DBS check (£6) and go on a separate day to a Safeguarding children workshop (£10).

Seems a lot of hassle. Any thoughts ?

England Boxing, like all national governing bodies are having to move towards self sufficiency. Do the maths. 20 people on a course that is more often than not run in an existing gym for free, by coaches who get moderate expenses brings in some decent $$$$.

Plenty of other courses courses. £100 a day. £95 a day. £50 a day....................The world has changed. Volunteers now fund paid employees

Yeah just the same with the board inspectors and area council members who are all unpaid volunteers fund the full timers at head office along with the expenses of the stewards etc

It’s easy, but time consuming.

The course in Scotland is practically the same,as volunteer coaches our club paid for myself and the other coaches to get put through it,there's new rules and regulations made every year and it's costing small clubs a fortune

semtexreilly wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 03:28 The course in Scotland is practically the same,as volunteer coaches our club paid for myself and the other coaches to get put through it,there's new rules and regulations made every year and it's costing small clubs a fortune

Yeah the board are exactly the same new rules and regulations etc every year all at a cost to the licence holders to fund head office and stewards expenses and wages etc

Got my course coming up soon for my level 1, already done the safe guarding course. It is a lot of hassle but it will be worth it to start taking the boys out and cornering them can't wait for next season

Have you got your First Aid certificate ?

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 10:01 Have you got your First Aid certificate ?

Na mate i ain't. Do I need one then. I just go to wherever I get sent they just sort it and I turn up

Yes you need to do a First Aid course and email the certificate to England Boxing. First Aid courses where I live cost £75 +

You have to redo it every 3 years.

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Jul 2018, 11:14 Yes you need to do a First Aid course and email the certificate to England Boxing. First Aid courses where I live cost £75 +

You have to redo it every 3 years.

Oh right il ask at the club. The club are paying the fees for me

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2018, 13:40 Just had a look on the England Boxing site with a view of doing the Level 1.

You have to do the course over 2 weekends (£130)
Then you have to sort out your own First Aid course (£75) DBS check (£6) and go on a separate day to a Safeguarding children workshop (£10).

Seems a lot of hassle. Any thoughts ?

Which parts of this should a coach not do? Coaching qualifications are far more expensive in other sports. A safeguarding children in sport workshop generally costs over £30 with other organisations. An understanding of safeguarding and first aid are essential given the responsibilities of a coach, and the fact that it is a contact sport. Furthermore, a coach has a legal and ethical duty of care to all of the children and young people that he / she coaches. This isn't merely stipulated by the governing body, but derives from various legislation. As a parent, I wouldn't expect any less.

Why does the papers and boxing news only report on boxing England and not the boxing alliance ?

Matt W wrote: ↑04 Jul 2018, 06:09

nobleart1978 wrote: ↑30 Jun 2018, 13:40 Just had a look on the England Boxing site with a view of doing the Level 1.

You have to do the course over 2 weekends (£130)
Then you have to sort out your own First Aid course (£75) DBS check (£6) and go on a separate day to a Safeguarding children workshop (£10).

Seems a lot of hassle. Any thoughts ?

Which parts of this should a coach not do? Coaching qualifications are far more expensive in other sports. A safeguarding children in sport workshop generally costs over £30 with other organisations. An understanding of safeguarding and first aid are essential given the responsibilities of a coach, and the fact that it is a contact sport. Furthermore, a coach has a legal and ethical duty of care to all of the children and young people that he / she coaches. This isn't merely stipulated by the governing body, but derives from various legislation. As a parent, I wouldn't expect any less.

England Boxing will happily relieve a complete boxing 'novice', teacher or fitness coach, of £100 for a one day course that includes a single 20 minute session on 'Stance, Guard & Footwork', another 20 minutes on Padwork, Hooks & Rolls, Straight shots & ducks, bandaging and so on, leading to qualification to deliver Olympic Style Boxing Techniques to all and sundry in less than 7 hours.

Concern for boxer safety is so much more than simply saying to the participants ' hey guys, this doesn't actually mean you can teach contact boxing'. Then again, being truthful, telling people that a basic level one course takes 4 days and years of mentoring by a seasoned coach in a genuine boxing gym, wouldn't encourage folk to part with their $$$$$ would it?