Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 07:19
by TheLeprechaun
Can anyone give me some fights where this happened?
Pretty poor rule and it seems the UK is way behind the rest of the world in this particular regard but what more would you expect from the old mans club BBBoC?
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 07:21
by jamamb
and it used to be the uncut fighter would win!! that wasnt even that long ago
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 09:23
by Tangerine
Crolla v Diaz
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 10:04
by handsofstone
Quigg vs Munroe 1
I agree its a terrible rule
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 10:59
by jameswilson
This rule is in line with the Workd organisations isn’t it?
I remember Herbie Hide losing a fight on a head butted caused cut and it wrecked the prospect of a fight against Danny Williams that had been ordered by the EBU for the EU title. That would have been a good fight at the time.
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 12:44
by Stuarty
Khan Barrera should've been!
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 15 Jul 2018, 13:02
by Boxing Prospect
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 07:19
Can anyone give me some fights where this happened?
Pretty poor rule and it seems the UK is way behind the rest of the world in this particular regard but what more would you expect from the old mans club BBBoC?
Huh?
Most of the world rule them as technical draw or a no contest
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 07:19
Can anyone give me some fights where this happened?
Pretty poor rule and it seems the UK is way behind the rest of the world in this particular regard but what more would you expect from the old mans club BBBoC?
Huh?
Most of the world rule them as technical draw or a no contest
It goes down as a no contest in most other countries I believe. This is important if someone is betting on the fight for example and say they bet on Dave Allen to beat Lenroy. Allen gets cut and the fight is called a draw. Any win bets are losers. I know in most states in america it goes down as no contest. Calling it a draw really does screw anyone who bet on it
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 07:19
Can anyone give me some fights where this happened?
Pretty poor rule and it seems the UK is way behind the rest of the world in this particular regard but what more would you expect from the old mans club BBBoC?
Huh?
Most of the world rule them as technical draw or a no contest
It goes down as a no contest in most other countries I believe. This is important if someone is betting on the fight for example and say they bet on Dave Allen to beat Lenroy. Allen gets cut and the fight is called a draw. Any win bets are losers. I know in most states in america it goes down as no contest. Calling it a draw really does screw anyone who bet on it
I think its only really the US and some world title bodies that do the No Contest / No Decision, but I guess some other countries do as well, I just know we're not alone in the technical draw stuff
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 03:59
by MarkMcBurney
handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Jul 2018, 10:04
Quigg vs Munroe 1
I agree its a terrible rule
This is the one I immediately thought of too.
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 04:34
by jamamb
kovalev has often been announced in the ring as having a draw when in fact it was some dinky 2 round td.was in a us fight, not for cut but accidental foul
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 16:26
by DougieCampbell
I refed Craig mcewan v allister Warren .. bad clash of head at least 3 times in first round. Had to call the doc who rightfully waved it off. Fight ended in technical draw.
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 16:41
by Stuarty
DougieCampbell wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 16:26
I refed Craig mcewan v allister Warren .. bad clash of head at least 3 times in first round. Had to call the doc who rightfully waved it off. Fight ended in technical draw.
Always thought Craig was gonna be something special in the pros. He was probably the best amateur up here in and around his weight for years...
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 16:46
by DougieCampbell
Aye he was on the circuit for years.. am sure he had about 300 am fights haha.
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 16:53
by Stuarty
DougieCampbell wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 16:46
Aye he was on the circuit for years.. am sure he had about 300 am fights haha.
That's right mate aye. I hadn't heard of him for years afterwards then I was watching an American show at daft o'clock in the morning one night and saw Freddie Roach was wearing a Hibs top then I recognised Craig
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 17:00
by DougieCampbell
Aye was out there with roach.. potty roach didn’t do the corner when I refed him in Kilmarnock
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 17:19
by Stuarty
DougieCampbell wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 17:00
Aye was out there with roach.. potty roach didn’t do the corner when I refed him in Kilmarnock
Aye he left Roach after his losses to Lee and Quillin mate...
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 17:49
by sgtcecil
Wasn’t it the case an unfortunate fighter who got cut from an accidental head clash could end up with a TKO loss here in UK???
I personally have no issue with the technical draw rule.
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
DougieCampbell wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 16:46
Aye he was on the circuit for years.. am sure he had about 300 am fights haha.
That's right mate aye. I hadn't heard of him for years afterwards then I was watching an American show at daft o'clock in the morning one night and saw Freddie Roach was wearing a Hibs top then I recognised Craig
Wasn’t he ahead against lee on cards before he got stopped?
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
DougieCampbell wrote: ↑16 Jul 2018, 16:46
Aye he was on the circuit for years.. am sure he had about 300 am fights haha.
That's right mate aye. I hadn't heard of him for years afterwards then I was watching an American show at daft o'clock in the morning one night and saw Freddie Roach was wearing a Hibs top then I recognised Craig
Wasn’t he ahead against lee on cards before he got stopped?
Can't remember official cards but I had him ahead then he started to unravel in the penultimate round
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
That's right mate aye. I hadn't heard of him for years afterwards then I was watching an American show at daft o'clock in the morning one night and saw Freddie Roach was wearing a Hibs top then I recognised Craig
Wasn’t he ahead against lee on cards before he got stopped?
Can't remember official cards but I had him ahead then he started to unravel in the penultimate round
I thought he was giving Lee a hiding but I honestly believe Lee had the best punch in boxing at one point - his right hook. Got him out of trouble in so many fights
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Huh?
Most of the world rule them as technical draw or a no contest
It goes down as a no contest in most other countries I believe. This is important if someone is betting on the fight for example and say they bet on Dave Allen to beat Lenroy. Allen gets cut and the fight is called a draw. Any win bets are losers. I know in most states in america it goes down as no contest. Calling it a draw really does screw anyone who bet on it
I think its only really the US and some world title bodies that do the No Contest / No Decision, but I guess some other countries do as well, I just know we're not alone in the technical draw stuff
That's interesting. I was under the impression that most countries did away with it. Certainly it seems like in the US and most world title bodies have done away with it.
What do you think happened with Hide vs Kaulikausas then when Hide was deemed to have lost and took a TKO on his record.
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 16 Jul 2018, 20:43
by jamamb
ya mcewan was defo ahead until late vs lee and for much of that fight beat up on lee. but then lee hurt mcewan n the 9th and finished thngs last round. the 85-85 cards were rather generous to andy though they were moot werent they
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
Posted: 17 Jul 2018, 00:04
by TheLeprechaun
McEwan was several rounds in front. Lee was loading up with the right hook all night and it set up the straight left to drop McEwan. Big right hooks got him going again in the 10th and a straight left ended proceedings.
More or less ruined mcewan and ended his career really.
Check out the HBO highlights
"Andy lee is in trouble. His confidence looks shot"
"This is a stunningly effective performance by McEwan"
Re: Brit Fights where there was a cut before 4 rounds and it was called a technical draw?
It goes down as a no contest in most other countries I believe. This is important if someone is betting on the fight for example and say they bet on Dave Allen to beat Lenroy. Allen gets cut and the fight is called a draw. Any win bets are losers. I know in most states in america it goes down as no contest. Calling it a draw really does screw anyone who bet on it
I think its only really the US and some world title bodies that do the No Contest / No Decision, but I guess some other countries do as well, I just know we're not alone in the technical draw stuff
That's interesting. I was under the impression that most countries did away with it. Certainly it seems like in the US and most world title bodies have done away with it.
What do you think happened with Hide vs Kaulikausas then when Hide was deemed to have lost and took a TKO on his record.
Until a few years ago a fighter in the UK injured through an accidental foul and couldn't continue lost by TKO. The technical draw rule is a million times better than that.
The Hide fight is on YouTube btw
Shinny Bayaar had the same vs Paul Edwards I think as well
