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Had there been a rematch?
Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 10:48
by Ambling Alp II
Most of the time, it's simple case of the better man winning.
However there are cases where you wonder who would have won a rematch had there been one.
No heavyweight champion ever won the title back before Floyd Patterson. Here are few cases where there was no rematch.
Let's say there was a rematch 5 or 6 months after the actual fight happened. Who would you pick of the following:
Hart-Burns
Burns-Johnson
Corbett-Fitzsimmons
Johnson-Willard
Willard-Dempsey
Schmeling-Sharkey III
Sharkey-Carnera III
Carnera-Baer
Baer-Braddock
Braddock-Louis
Charles-Walcott V
Re: Had there been a rematch?
Posted: 24 Jul 2018, 21:56
by BoxBuzz
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑24 Jul 2018, 10:48
Most of the time, it's simple case of the better man winning.
However there are cases where you wonder who would have won a rematch had there been one.
No heavyweight champion ever won the title back before Floyd Patterson. Here are few cases where there was no rematch.
Let's say there was a rematch 5 or 6 months after the actual fight happened. Who would you pick of the following:
Hart-Burns …….. Good question
Burns-Johnson ……... Seriously asking this?
Corbett-Fitzsimmons …….. I think this would be a good fight, can't make a call
Johnson-Willard …….. By this time in Johnsons's career, Willard might pull it off twice
Willard-Dempsey …….. Seriously asking this?
Schmeling-Sharkey III …….. I'd slightly favor Schmeling
Sharkey-Carnera III …….. This of course depends on "prior arrangments"
Carnera-Baer …….. Seriously asking this?
Baer-Braddock …….. I think Braddock would pull lit off, however, most people would likely disagree.
Braddock-Louis …….. Seriously asking this?
Charles-Walcott V ……. Pretty sure Jaclem mentioned that by this time Ezz was afflicted....so Walcott could well pull it off again.
Re: Had there been a rematch?
Posted: 25 Jul 2018, 03:30
by Tuan_Jim
Good thread. I think most of the fights are facsimiles of the first. Except:
Sharkey probably beats Schmeling more convincingly on points, and reverses his loss to Carnera and wins on points.
Baer surely turns the tables on Braddock.
Judging by Walcott's beautiful first 12 rds versus Rock the momentum was with him by that point, and he outpoints Charles in a fifth fight.
Re: Had there been a rematch?
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 16:04
by Ambling Alp II
Some of these fights, I don't think there would be much of chance of it turning out much differently.
I was just listing every non-rematch up to Patterson winning the title back.
Corbett would have chance a decent chance. He was winning the first fight, and probably would have been more careful in a rematch.
Sharkey-Schmeling is a tough call. Sharkey's career did start to slide after their second fight.
Baer at this best should beat Braddock and Carnera, but there were fights where he just mailed it in.
On the fence with Charles-Walcott V.