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We had some hw fights that influenced the top 15 rank a lot
1.Anthony Joshua (1)
2.Alexander Povetkin (2)
3.Deontay Wilder (3)
4.Luis Ortiz (5)
5.Kubrat Pulev (6)
6.Jarrell Miller (7)
7.Dillian Whyte (10)
8.Joseph Parker (4)
9.Dominic Breazeale (9)
10.Dereck Chisora (outside top 15)
11.Bryant Jennings (11)
12.Mariusz Wach (12)
13.Johann Duhaupas (13)
14.Adam Kownacki (14)
15.Carlos Takam (8)

I know that Chisora lost to Kabayel but i think that Chisora we saw yesterday could beat him easily

Contenders to the to 15: Hughie Fury, Agit Kabayel, Izuagbe Ugonoh, Christian Hammer, Filip Hrgovic

I do not rank Tyson Fury until he gets to the ring for real fight

Ortiz, Pulev and Miller above Whyte is way off.

Whyte has at least one, if not two better wins on his record than all them three put together. Once Joshua knocks Povetkin out, Whyte goes above him in the rankings too, in at number 3 imo.

lol but ortiz beat cojanu though

Id favour Ortiz Pulev and Miller in a fight over Whyte

i dont like pulevs lack of fights. its been trash since beating del 3 years ago and hes getting up there now

Thats true but no one wants to fight him especially in Bulgaria. Big risk for small reward

Let us try to make the top 15 HW (29.07.2018), but it would be difficult, because of the lack of the activity of some fighters who should be on this list (T. Fury, Pulev, even H. Fury), this time I will not put them on the list.

1. Joshua
2. Wilder
3. Ortiz
4. Povetkin
5. Whyte
6. Parker
7. Miller
8. Brezeale
9. Chisora
10. Kabayel
11. Takam
12. Hammer
13. Hrgović
14. Joyce
15. Dubois

I am not sure for Jennings, but I think that Duhaupas, Wach and Kownacki don't deserve to be at the top 15 just now.

i dont think dubois does either

jamamb wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 08:06 i dont think dubois does either

Maybe not, but if I have to choose between him and Duhaupas, I will choose him.
His future might be bright, what about Duhaupas boxing future.

id bet duhuapas would still beat up tom little and dave how and aj carter

btw is this a ranking of current or future?

jamamb wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 08:29 id bet duhuapas would still beat up tom little and dave how and aj carter

btw is this a ranking of current or future?

OK, let Duhaupas be #15 today.

he doesnt have to be, but i certainly think he deal with dubois opponents no problem at all

jamamb wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 08:40 he doesnt have to be, but i certainly think he deal with dubois opponents no problem at all

If they (Dubois and Duhaupas) fight tomorrow, I think it would be close. But, I can imagine Dubois as a HW champion in the near future. Honestly, can you imagine Duhaupas as a champion ?

Duhaupas will never become a champ but i can easily imagine him beating Dubois at this point

dagilechia wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 08:48 Duhaupas will never become a champ but i can easily imagine him beating Dubois at this point

I wouldn't bet on this.

1. Joshua
2. Povetkin
3. Wilder
4. T.Fury
5. Whyte
6. Ortiz
7. Miller
8. Parker
9. Breazeale
10. Kownacki
11. Pulev
12. Hammer
13. Chisora
14. Kabayel
15. Takam

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1 ANTHONY JOSHUA GB
2 ALEXANDER POVETKIN RUS
3 DEONTAY WILDER USA
4 DILLIAN WHYTE GB
5 TYSON FURY GB
6 JOSEPH PARKER NZ
7 LUIS ORTIZ CUB
8 JARRELL MILLER USA
9 DOMINIC BREAZEALE USA
10 TONY BELLEW GB
11 CHRISTIAN HAMMER GER
12 MARISZ WACH POL
13 ADAM KOWNACKI USA
14 JOHANN DUHAUPAS FRA
15 AGIT KABAYEL GER
16 DERECK CHISORA GB
17 BRYANT JENNINGS USA
18 TOMASZ ADAMEK POL
19 CARLOS TAKAM CAM
20 ANDY RUIZ jnr MEX
21 ERKAN TEPER GER
22 ALEXANDER DIMITRENKO UKR
23 HUGHIE FURY GB
24 MARCO HUCK GER
25 OTTO WALLIN SWD
26 JOEY ABELL USA
27 KRYSZTOF ZIMNOCH POL
28 MANUEL CHARR LEB
29 ROBERT HELENIUS FIN
30 TONY YOKA FRA
Hope thats ok to post

astradamus wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 17:45 1: Anthony Joshua
2: Tyson Fury
3: Dillian Whyte
4: Jarrell Miller
5: Joe Joyce
6: Deontay Wilder
7: Alexander Povetkin
8: Joseph Parker
9: Adam Kownacki
10: Daniel Dubois
11: Oscar Rivas
12: Junlong Zhang
13: Dominic Breazeale
14: Ivan Dychko
15: Luis Ortiz

That list is just a fishing expedition.

astradamus wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 03:26

ewenhay wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 18:23

astradamus wrote: ↑29 Jul 2018, 17:45 1: Anthony Joshua
2: Tyson Fury
3: Dillian Whyte
4: Jarrell Miller
5: Joe Joyce
6: Deontay Wilder
7: Alexander Povetkin
8: Joseph Parker
9: Adam Kownacki
10: Daniel Dubois
11: Oscar Rivas
12: Junlong Zhang
13: Dominic Breazeale
14: Ivan Dychko
15: Luis Ortiz

That list is just a fishing expedition.

It's a list of the top, much promising top amateurs that just became pro and some boxers in their prime (or just over it).
I don't expect any of the talents to lose any match any time soon. Junlong Zhang, Povetkin and Ortiz will go downhill soon, even if Povetkin wins against AJ. Remarkebly, sometimes I even got the feeling AJ himself is going downhill. I have the feeling his 2016 performance was better then his 2017 performance, despite the Klitschko win and such.

So it's not a list of the world's current top 15 heavyweights then

The division is a mess.  Only one of the top five boxers have fought each other.  While that should change soon, it doesn't absolve the fact that there is little depth in the top five to fifteen.   Thankfully, there are about six decent up and comers to fill the void so I'm going to jump the gun and list the best of the up and comers in the top fifteen thanks to lack of depth and also add in Usyk, who says he's moving up to heavyweight.

1 ) Joshua - Fights Povektin next, the winner gets the #1 spot
2 ) Povetkin - Fights Joshua next, will also be 39 when it happens
3 ) Whyte - He means business
4 ) Wilder - Lacking a resume, he fights Fury next
5 ) Fury - Can he get back to where he was?  Fights Wilder next
6 ) Usyk - A breath of fresh air, and the division needs it.  Very skilled
7 ) Ortiz - Old, but still good enough and dangerous
8 ) Parker - Lack of stamina and desire makes me want to place him lower
9 ) Miller - Pulled out of a fight with Pulev, Fast hands for his size. Mediocre power
10 ) Kuzmin - Impressed enough to hold this spot for now
11 ) Hrgovic - A young big man with skills, power, and durability
10 ) Bellew - Impressed vs Haye
13 ) Chisora  - Can give anyone a tough night's work
14 )  Yoka -  Suspended, but he's tall with talent
15 ) Joyce - A seek and destroy type.  Boom or bust once he moves up

The division could really use a World Boxing Super Series to define its champion.

astradamus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 08:41

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 16:25

astradamus wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 03:26
It's a list of the top, much promising top amateurs that just became pro and some boxers in their prime (or just over it).
I don't expect any of the talents to lose any match any time soon. Junlong Zhang, Povetkin and Ortiz will go downhill soon, even if Povetkin wins against AJ. Remarkebly, sometimes I even got the feeling AJ himself is going downhill. I have the feeling his 2016 performance was better then his 2017 performance, despite the Klitschko win and such.

So it's not a list of the world's current top 15 heavyweights then

Oké, but then you should add Klitschko and such as well, who would probably still beat several of these guys.
Just give me yours and I'll show you who will beat them.

Klitschko has retired though.

astradamus wrote: ↑01 Aug 2018, 08:41

ewenhay wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 16:25

astradamus wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 03:26
It's a list of the top, much promising top amateurs that just became pro and some boxers in their prime (or just over it).
I don't expect any of the talents to lose any match any time soon. Junlong Zhang, Povetkin and Ortiz will go downhill soon, even if Povetkin wins against AJ. Remarkebly, sometimes I even got the feeling AJ himself is going downhill. I have the feeling his 2016 performance was better then his 2017 performance, despite the Klitschko win and such.

So it's not a list of the world's current top 15 heavyweights then

Oké, but then you should add Klitschko and such as well, who would probably still beat several of these guys.
Just give me yours and I'll show you who will beat them.

I'm going to bite with one of many strange choices on your list.

Please explain your justification for ranking Joyce in the top 5 above Wilder who holds the WBC belt.

Apart from you just having a hunch that Joyce might beat Wilder

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Deontay Wilder
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3. Dillian Whyte
4. Jarrell Miller
5. Luis Ortiz
6. Alexander Povetkin
7. Joseph Parker
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8. Dominic Breazeale
9. Hughie Fury
10. Andy Ruiz
11. Adam Kownacki
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12. Bryant Jennnings
13. Tony Bellew
14. Agit Kabayet
15. Tyson Fury

Think Povetkin hasn't looked that good in a long time, surprised to see so many here with him at #2 (#6 is arguably a little low, but I think he has to be behind at least Wilder in 2018).

I'm reluctant to give Tyson full credit for his earlier performances yet, given how off-form he looked last fight. If he has another warm-up and looks sharper he could end up back at #2 or #3.

Other than that this list is sadly pretty arbitrary, especially #8-#14. I don't rank prospects until they have done something a little more relevant than any of them have managed so far - hopefully a list like this will look a little more impressive in 18 months or so with Hrgovic, Ajagba, Dubois, Joyce, Yoka, Ilunga, Gorman etc etc etc making moves and Uysk (and maybe Gassiev or Breidis) in the mix as well. But for now the landscape is still pretty uninspiring.

I like the tier system:

1. Anthony Joshua
2. Deontay Wilder
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3. Dillian Whyte
4.. Luis Ortiz
5. Alexander Povetkin
6. Joseph Parker
7. Tyson Fury
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8. Jarrell Miller
9. Tony Bellew
10. Andy Ruiz
11. Hughie Fury
12. Kubrat Pulev
13. Agit Kabayel
14. Zhang Zhilei
15 Adam Kownacki
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The best of the rest:
16. Dominic Breazeale
17. Oscar Rivas
18, Otto Wallin
19. Tyrone Spong
20, Tom Schwarz
21 Tony Yoka
22 Charles Martin
23. Kyotaro Fujimoto
24. Manuel Charr
25. Junlong Zhang
26. Bryant Jennings
27. Trevor Bryan
28. Joe Joyce
29. Simon Keen
30. Daniel Dubois