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"Wȁɍɍȅn confident he can make Fury vs. Wilder happen before the end of the year"

Fɍȁnk Wȁɍɍȅn is confident he can get a deal for Tyson Fury to face Deontay Wilder before the end of the year.

Fury faces Francesco Pianeta on August 18 in his second comeback fight after a two-and-a-half year absence from the ring.

And if the Gypsy King comes through unscathed then Wȁɍɍȅn is targeting Wilder as the former heavyweight champion’s next opponent.

Dillian Whyte and Dereck Chisora both registered wins at the weekend in fights with Joseph Parker and Carlos Takam, respectively.

But rather than challenge one of the duo in a third comeback clash before facing a bigger target, Wȁɍɍȅn and his charge are gunning straight for Wilder.

Asked whether Fury would face Whyte or Chisora after the bout with Pianeta, Wȁɍɍȅn told talkSPORT: “Well, actually they’re two competitive and very good fighters but, with due respect to them, we’re actually trying to make the fight with Deontay Wilder.

“First of all we want to see what he looks like on the August 18. Hopefully he will come through it well, but reports from the gym are that he’s looking well.

“Tyson, as he’s said himself, has been talking about Wilder in the last few weeks and it’s a fight I think the British fans would like to see.

“It wouldn’t happen in the autumn, if it happens it will be sometime in November or December.

“That’s where I would like to see him, providing he comes through okay and that’s no disrespect to anybody. He’s the lineal champion. He’s the guy who hasn’t been beaten. He lost his belt outside the ring.

And despite Anthony Joshua struggling to get a bout with Wilder, Wȁɍɍȅn reckons he can bring the American and Fury together.

He added: “I’m pretty confident we can make it happen. It takes two to make a deal and if you really want to make a deal you will make it happen.”

Thoughts?

Bored of the AJ-Wilder bollocks and I expect this is going to be more of the same.

Won't happen.

I can't see Warren having any real interest in putting Fury in with anything more than a few corpses this year.

But promoters gotta talk so Warren's saying whatever sounds interesting and helps keep his fighter in the international spotlight.

It sounds a bit soon that.

"Tyson Fury confirms Deontay Wilder super fight is almost done for December"

Tyson Fury confirms Deontay Wilder super fight is almost done for December

The former world heavyweight champion is looking to take on the WBC world heavyweight champion.

Tyson Fury has confirmed that talks are at an advanced stage to fight Deontay Wilder for the WBC world heavyweight title in December.

"I can confirm that me and Deontay Wilder are in negotiations," Fury said. "Very close to being done. Frank told you all on talkSPORT this morning. It's out there now.

"I can reveal that negotiations are very strong for December."

I really cant see this happening if it does then fair play but surely fury would want a few more fights before having a massive fight. also would wilder take this fight and not the aj fight knowing that he would get more money fighting aj and there is a much bigger reward.

Boxing101101 wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 09:29 I really cant see this happening if it does then fair play but surely fury would want a few more fights before having a massive fight. also would wilder take this fight and not the aj fight knowing that he would get more money fighting aj and there is a much bigger reward.

If he beats Fury it would strengthen his hand in the AJ negotions exponentially.

Maybe he feels that if he is going to fight Fury, he might aswell do it now before he gets back to full sharpness.

The victor of a potential bout between Wilder and Fury would benefit from a significantly boosted bargaining power at the negation table for a title unification fight against Anthony Joshua.

By my reckoning, a Wilder-Fury bout would not only present both participants with a handsome payday, but the winner would probably receive an additional $10m in their fight purse to face Anthony Joshua.

That being said, I’m not really optimistic about the chances of seeing Tyson Fury face Deontay Wilder before the end of the current calendar year.

OF course you guys remember that the Wilder-Joshua fight was "almost done" too.

What would boxing be without empty promises and plenty of rhetoric?

midpoint FURY 7-5 over WILDER oddschecker

dickbelden wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 11:54 midpoint FURY 7-5 over WILDER oddschecker

Get me some of those tasty odds. I've never been this hungry.

Totally daft. Flies in the face of reason.

British based book, right?

Even then it seems illogical to make Fury a favorite over any credible heavyweight, much less the murderous punching champion.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 11:23 The victor of a potential bout between Wilder and Fury would benefit from a significantly boosted bargaining power at the negation table for a title unification fight against Anthony Joshua.

By my reckoning, a Wilder-Fury bout would not only present both participants with a handsome payday, but the winner would probably receive an additional $10m in their fight purse to face Anthony Joshua.

That being said, I’m not really optimistic about the chances of seeing Tyson Fury face Deontay Wilder before the end of the current calendar year.

Where are you getting the extra 10m from?

Let it be ! I can not wait.

This fight won't be made at least until next year.

Ridiculous to think this would happen this year.

Anyway, Wilder knocks any version of fury into next week.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 01:04 Ridiculous to think this would happen this year.

"Deontay Wilder manager CONFIRMS Tyson Fury talks for title fight in December"

DEONTAY WILDER’s manager has substantiated claims that the American is in talks to fight Tyson Fury later this year.

Jay Deas, coach and co-manager of Wilder, has confirmed that the pair of heavyweights could fight for the WBC belt before the turn of the year.

Fury only returned from a drugs ban last month but he could soon regain one of his former titles, which were stripped from him in December 2016.

Wilder has been negotiating with Anthony Joshua over a potential unification clash - but the duo failed to reach an agreement.

And Deas thinks his boxer could hold all the aces when they return to the table with Joshua - if Wilder can beat Fury in America.

“Both teams want the biggest fight possible,” Deas told the Tuscaloosa News.

“This would be an enormous fight, just enormous.

“One thing I can say for certain: If this can be worked out, Deontay Wilder would have been involved in the two biggest fights of 2018, Wilder-(Luis) Ortiz and Wilder-Fury.

“And if he were to win against Fury, as we fully expect, then Deontay would be an international superstar in control of the boxing world.

“This would be fight of the year. We’d have 13 feet, 4 inches (Fury is 6-foot-9, Wilder 6-7) and 500 pounds of hard-punching, trash-talking, knockout heavyweights.”

Fury had said that negotiations were “very close” to completion earlier on Monday.

"I can confirm that me and Deontay Wilder are in negotiations and it's very close to being done,” Fury said.

“It's out there now and I can reveal that negotiations are very strong for December and we're almost done with this deal.

“I won't be overlooking Francesco Pianeta. He's going to give me the right fight and the right work to prepare me for Wilder.

“I'm going to flatten [Pianeta] first and then Wilder, let's dance. You've been dealing with Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua but I am a man of my word and if I say I'll fight you, I'll fight you.

“Prepare well, train hard and let's get the deal done. I will knock Pianeta into next week and then I'll knock you spark out too."

Gotta see Pianeta fight. If Tyson regains his shape, Wilder fight is a great option. It's a title fight and it's obviously an easier challenge, than Joshua fight. Furthermore Wilder-Fury negotiations probably won't be so dumb as AJ-Wilder negotiations, cause for the moment Fury should have far less demands and here Wilder's demands will sound more well-founded, cause that is him, who has an actual belt. Btw, if Fury wins, the fight for the undisputed championship at heavyweights will be much more easier to make. So, if Fury and Wilder really settle to fight at the end of the year and Fury regains his shape, it will be great.

Imo it’s too soon for Fury. Wilder is a hellacious puncher, who’s fit as can be. Fury is coming off a two plus year layoff of inactivity, weight gain, coke, masturbation and strippers. He should fight a puncher not named Wilder in his next fight. He needs to be able to be feel being punched hard in the ring first but not by someone as devastating as wilder. Maybe by a 4 round puncher like Shannon the cannon.

I don't see this happening. Wilder won't make anywhere near the 15m "crack money" that he turned down against Joshua and there's still a very high chance of him losing, regardless of Fury's current fitness. It might increase bargaining power for an AJ fight but that's only if he wins...

I'd say that if he takes this fight for under 15m that shows who either he or his team fear most

joshj909 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 04:43 I don't see this happening. Wilder won't make anywhere near the 15m "crack money" that he turned down against Joshua and there's still a very high chance of him losing, regardless of Fury's current fitness. It might increase bargaining power for an AJ fight but that's only if he wins...

I'd say that if he takes this fight for under 15m that shows who either he or his team fear most

I think your opinion on this matter is sensible and probably reflects the reality of the situation.

However, Deontay Wilder may opt to face Tyson Fury as soon as he possibly can in order to exploit an opportunity to face a weakened version of the unfit and ring rusty ‘Gypsy King’.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ has a much better chance to defeat Tyson Fury this year than he would during 2019, because the Brit will inevitably keep improving as he returns to full fitness and eventually achieves his optimum weight.

If the American wins, then his bargaining power at the negation table would be significantly boosted when trying to negotiate a title unification super-fight against Anthony Joshua.

Team Wilder may be able to improve their payday by as much as $10m if they entered into discussions with Eddie Hearn, whilst possessing a victory over the previously undefeated lineal world champion, Tyson Fury, in what would have been a highly-lucrative PPV event.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 05:41 Team Wilder may be able to improve their payday by as much as $10m if they entered into discussions with Eddie Hearn, whilst possessing a victory over the previously undefeated lineal world champion, Tyson Fury, in what would have been a highly-lucrative PPV event.

Although, I don't see Warren/Hearn unification negotiations being smooth, i think it would go smoother than these Wilder negotiations. If Wilder wins he'll be demanding a huge percentage and i just don't see the AJ/Wilder fight happening after that.

joshj909 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 05:54

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 05:41 Team Wilder may be able to improve their payday by as much as $10m if they entered into discussions with Eddie Hearn, whilst possessing a victory over the previously undefeated lineal world champion, Tyson Fury, in what would have been a highly-lucrative PPV event.

Although, I don't see Warren/Hearn unification negotiations being smooth, i think it would go smoother than these Wilder negotiations. If Wilder wins he'll be demanding a huge percentage and i just don't see the AJ/Wilder fight happening after that.

That seems right. So Fury's win over Wilder will be better for boxing. We all should root for Fury now. Let's go Gypsy King!

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