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jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 01:14 what does he think about spence vs ggg or crawford vs canelo

golovkin is slow and easy to hit, that much is true

hulkmaniac wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 01:08 My friend who is usually good at predictions confidently told me that Crawford would beat Golovkin. He said that weight won't be a major factor because Crawford walks around at 170 and GGG is fairly small for 160 because he comes in around 165 ish at 30 day weigh ins. He said Crawford is too slick and elusive for GGG and that GGG can't hit air when they fight. FWIW he's picking Canelo to beat Golovkin by competitive but clear decision this time around.

IRLangmaid25 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 14:01

hulkmaniac wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 01:08 My friend who is usually good at predictions confidently told me that Crawford would beat Golovkin. He said that weight won't be a major factor because Crawford walks around at 170 and GGG is fairly small for 160 because he comes in around 165 ish at 30 day weigh ins. He said Crawford is too slick and elusive for GGG and that GGG can't hit air when they fight. FWIW he's picking Canelo to beat Golovkin by competitive but clear decision this time around.

At what point did you question his sobriety when he made this proclamation?

hulkmaniac wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 18:07

IRLangmaid25 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 14:01

hulkmaniac wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 01:08 My friend who is usually good at predictions confidently told me that Crawford would beat Golovkin. He said that weight won't be a major factor because Crawford walks around at 170 and GGG is fairly small for 160 because he comes in around 165 ish at 30 day weigh ins. He said Crawford is too slick and elusive for GGG and that GGG can't hit air when they fight. FWIW he's picking Canelo to beat Golovkin by competitive but clear decision this time around.

At what point did you question his sobriety when he made this proclamation?

This is one of the most off the wall predictions he's told me but he's also gotten some major upsets correct. He said it matter-of-factly with supreme confidence.

IRLangmaid25 wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 18:49
I take it he called Alvarez to beat Kovalev as well then? As for Crawford v GGG you could argue that Kell Brook actually laid out the template to beat GGG, as he gave him problems with the speed he was bringing up from Welterweight, which Crawford will also have and Crawford can switch hit.

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 20:22 i know a guy who almost always goes with the underdogs in big fights (ones that arent obvious huge mismatches). it means he correctly picks more upsets then most ppl, but he also gets way more fights wrong because he misses so many where consensus was correct

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 14:16 P4P, yes.

But the 13 lb. weight difference and the disparity in strength would be too much for Crawford.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 14:18

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 14:16 P4P, yes.

But the 13 lb. weight difference and the disparity in strength would be too much for Crawford.

Unless he waits until Golovkin's timing and reflexes are shot to hell. Which tends to happen to guys in their late 30's or early 40's....at least in the modern era.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 14:46

gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 14:18

SenorPipino wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 14:16 P4P, yes.

But the 13 lb. weight difference and the disparity in strength would be too much for Crawford.

Unless he waits until Golovkin's timing and reflexes are shot to hell. Which tends to happen to guys in their late 30's or early 40's....at least in the modern era.

Well maybe. But I think that the OP was talking about what would happen if they fought now.

In your scenario, some years down the line, are you looking at it as Crawford moving up to 160 as a one shot deal?

Or are you theorizing that Crawford has already settled in at 160 and he's been campaigning at that weight for a while?

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 22:28 Can we stop saying that Brook exposed GGG or stupid ish like that? Crawford would get demolished. GGG is an elite pressure fighter that cuts off the ring with razor sharp precision. Crawford gets laid out bad, so does Spence Jr.

Since when does having Horn as your best win mean that you could hang with a monster like GGG?

hulkmaniac wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 20:31

jamamb wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 20:22 i know a guy who almost always goes with the underdogs in big fights (ones that arent obvious huge mismatches). it means he correctly picks more upsets then most ppl, but he also gets way more fights wrong because he misses so many where consensus was correct

That's not his style. He's very practical and pragmatic. He said Alexander-Berto is 50-50 and Garcia will shut out Easter. Looking ahead he's going with Canelo, Callum Smith, and Anthony Joshua to smash Povetkin to pieces.

NateJR wrote: ↑24 Aug 2018, 23:43 If Duran could give Hagler everything he could handle, it's not completely unreasonable to believe Crawford would stand a fair chance against GGG. He is the more talented fighter, with tons more speed, elusiveness and respectable power. Like was said in the OP, Crawford isn't a small WW either.

Obviously I'd favor GGG, but I see where the OPs friend is coming from.

hulkmaniac wrote: ↑06 Aug 2018, 01:08 My friend who is usually good at predictions confidently told me that Crawford would beat Golovkin. He said that weight won't be a major factor because Crawford walks around at 170 and GGG is fairly small for 160 because he comes in around 165 ish at 30 day weigh ins. He said Crawford is too slick and elusive for GGG and that GGG can't hit air when they fight. FWIW he's picking Canelo to beat Golovkin by competitive but clear decision this time around.