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Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 06:44
by Ruthless-RKO
Will be making his US debut soon.

Thoughts on this?

Haye should have enough money to promote Joyce anyway, but Haymon is obviously going to be managing and advising Joyce. Plus, he has tonnes of HW's in his stable who he can match with Joyce.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 06:46
by Stuarty
Could be a good move. Haye seems to be struggling finding him opponents. He shouldn't have that problem with Uncle Al.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 06:59
by keirw
I take this as a sign that he is skipping the domestic route.

I expect we will see him in with the likes of Gerald Washington and Eric Molina before the year is out.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 07:14
by Verdi
Makes sense. Not many domestic HWs will want to fight him.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 07:22
by Stuarty
Verdi wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:14 Makes sense. Not many domestic HWs will want to fight him.
True. Chisora priced himself out. Fury is fighting an eliminator and Whyte is well beyond that level now. allegedly seems to be trying to build up Dubois v Gorman so he's not gonna risk either of them. He's not gonna learn much fighting the likes of Sexton, Cornish etc....

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 07:25
by Ruthless-RKO
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:22
Verdi wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:14 Makes sense. Not many domestic HWs will want to fight him.
True. Chisora priced himself out. Fury is fighting an eliminator and Whyte is well beyond that level now. allegedly seems to be trying to build up Dubois v Gorman so he's not gonna risk either of them. He's not gonna learn much fighting the likes of Sexton, Cornish etc....
Definitely makes sense..

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 08:33
by JC
Interesting to see if training with Sanchez makes much of a difference.

He’s racking up great experience (ABAs, Commonwealth, European, Worlds, Olympics, WSB and sparring he’ll get in California)

I know he’s been stopped a couple of times in the ams. I’ve seen one vs the Russian world champion, clean shots to be fair, and he looked ready to carry on. Fighting the way Joyce does you’re definitely going to get your chin tested.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 08:37
by black panther
Big Joe Joyce in the house

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 08:38
by Ruthless-RKO
J-C wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 08:33 I know he’s been stopped a couple of times in the ams. I’ve seen one vs the Russian world champion, clean shots to be fair, and he looked ready to carry on. Fighting the way Joyce does you’re definitely going to get your chin tested.
He's not the most complete boxer and yeh, he has lost numerous times. He's never going to be polished, he's already past 30 years old. He can sure fight though and Sanchez will bring that out in him more.

As soon as he fights a boxer though, he will likely lose.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 11:14
by Coco
While Joyce looks unpolished he is a big unit, has a real good engine, awkward and effective as hell, he will prove very difficult to beat and impossible to look good against.
No one title contenders will want to fight him without a title on the line.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 12:22
by skanksta
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 08:38
J-C wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 08:33 I know he’s been stopped a couple of times in the ams. I’ve seen one vs the Russian world champion, clean shots to be fair, and he looked ready to carry on. Fighting the way Joyce does you’re definitely going to get your chin tested.
He's not the most complete boxer and yeh, he has lost numerous times. He's never going to be polished, he's already past 30 years old. He can sure fight though and Sanchez will bring that out in him more.

As soon as he fights a boxer though, he will likely lose.
They'd need to be a GOOD boxer AND have a bit of pop.
I'd love to see him fight Hughie Fury. Fascinating to find out if JJJ could get to him. Would be like Dhalsim vs Zangieff too - classic matchup :box:

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 16:05
by KiwiRider
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:22
Verdi wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:14 Makes sense. Not many domestic HWs will want to fight him.
True. Chisora priced himself out. Fury is fighting an eliminator and Whyte is well beyond that level now. allegedly seems to be trying to build up Dubois v Gorman so he's not gonna risk either of them. He's not gonna learn much fighting the likes of Sexton, Cornish etc....
Del didn't turn down the chance to fight Joyce, he turned down the money which was, as far as I can figure, was about 1/3rd his usual payday.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 16:24
by whiskey
Good luck to him I say, lets hope he's in some entertaining dust-ups and makes some dough.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 16:53
by Oiky
Not a bad move good luck to him

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:00
by Stuarty
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:05
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:22
Verdi wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:14 Makes sense. Not many domestic HWs will want to fight him.
True. Chisora priced himself out. Fury is fighting an eliminator and Whyte is well beyond that level now. allegedly seems to be trying to build up Dubois v Gorman so he's not gonna risk either of them. He's not gonna learn much fighting the likes of Sexton, Cornish etc....
Del didn't turn down the chance to fight Joyce, he turned down the money which was, as far as I can figure, was about 1/3rd his usual payday.
Maybe with Haymon behind him he can tempt Del and guys on that level then.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:03
by KiwiRider
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 17:00
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:05
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:22

True. Chisora priced himself out. Fury is fighting an eliminator and Whyte is well beyond that level now. allegedly seems to be trying to build up Dubois v Gorman so he's not gonna risk either of them. He's not gonna learn much fighting the likes of Sexton, Cornish etc....
Del didn't turn down the chance to fight Joyce, he turned down the money which was, as far as I can figure, was about 1/3rd his usual payday.
Maybe with Haymon behind him he can tempt Del and guys on that level then.
Yeah, I'd like to see it. You know, and I know, that Del Boy doesn't turn down fights unless he is being low balled.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:06
by Stuarty
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 17:03
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 17:00
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:05

Del didn't turn down the chance to fight Joyce, he turned down the money which was, as far as I can figure, was about 1/3rd his usual payday.
Maybe with Haymon behind him he can tempt Del and guys on that level then.
Yeah, I'd like to see it. You know, and I know, that Del Boy doesn't turn down fights unless he is being low balled.
Was a bit of a hiding to nothing fighting Joyce even if he was earning a wedge. Little credit if he wins and a dangerous fight against a novice pro.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:24
by keithmoonhangover
Smart move really. I like Joyce.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 17:54
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:05
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:22
Verdi wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:14 Makes sense. Not many domestic HWs will want to fight him.
True. Chisora priced himself out. Fury is fighting an eliminator and Whyte is well beyond that level now. allegedly seems to be trying to build up Dubois v Gorman so he's not gonna risk either of them. He's not gonna learn much fighting the likes of Sexton, Cornish etc....
Del didn't turn down the chance to fight Joyce, he turned down the money which was, as far as I can figure, was about 1/3rd his usual payday.
They offered him the same as he got vs. Pulev.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 18:58
by TheLeprechaun
He's going to get starched by the first good fighter he faces

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 15 Aug 2018, 22:41
by Wales
black panther wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 08:37 Big Joe Joyce in the house
Game of mobile homes


Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 03:03
by keirw
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 17:54
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:05
Stuarty wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 07:22

True. Chisora priced himself out. Fury is fighting an eliminator and Whyte is well beyond that level now. allegedly seems to be trying to build up Dubois v Gorman so he's not gonna risk either of them. He's not gonna learn much fighting the likes of Sexton, Cornish etc....
Del didn't turn down the chance to fight Joyce, he turned down the money which was, as far as I can figure, was about 1/3rd his usual payday.
They offered him the same as he got vs. Pulev.
But beating Pulev could have put him in line for a shot at AJ. Beating Joyce would have done little for his career.

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 05:23
by Cyclops
keirw wrote: 16 Aug 2018, 03:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 17:54
KiwiRider wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 16:05

Del didn't turn down the chance to fight Joyce, he turned down the money which was, as far as I can figure, was about 1/3rd his usual payday.
They offered him the same as he got vs. Pulev.
But beating Pulev could have put him in line for a shot at AJ. Beating Joyce would have done little for his career.
Didn’t he turn down AJ to fight Pulev?

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 06:04
by keirw
clopixolacuphase wrote: 16 Aug 2018, 05:23
keirw wrote: 16 Aug 2018, 03:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 17:54

They offered him the same as he got vs. Pulev.
But beating Pulev could have put him in line for a shot at AJ. Beating Joyce would have done little for his career.
Didn’t he turn down AJ to fight Pulev?
Not that I can recall, though my memory isn't the best.

Would seem a ridiculous thing to do, unless he felt beating Pulev would give him a bigger purse vs AJ :maybe:

Re: Joe Joyce Signs Deal with Al Haymon

Posted: 16 Aug 2018, 08:39
by danconnollyeire
clopixolacuphase wrote: 16 Aug 2018, 05:23
keirw wrote: 16 Aug 2018, 03:03
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Aug 2018, 17:54

They offered him the same as he got vs. Pulev.
But beating Pulev could have put him in line for a shot at AJ. Beating Joyce would have done little for his career.
Didn’t he turn down AJ to fight Pulev?
Maybe. But he could've and maybe should've been Pulev possibly opening up title fights. AJ would've knocked him spark out, especially as he was knocking everyone spark out on the way up