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I would please like to know what would happen if Dick Tiger campaign at heavyweight? Would he have success against rated contenders in the 1960s like Mickey Walker's heavyweight campaign and had the same crouching style or being a stepping stone for rated heavyweight contenders and champions like his light heavyweight conqueror Bob Foster? What is your opinion?

My initial thought is that he was campaigning out of his comfort zone even at Light Heavy, the step to Heavy would have been too much for him to make a dent. Great fighter though.

scorpio83 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 05:45 I would please like to know what would happen if Dick Tiger campaign at heavyweight? Would he have success against rated contenders in the 1960s like Mickey Walker's heavyweight campaign and had the same crouching style or being a stepping stone for rated heavyweight contenders and champions like his light heavyweight conqueror Bob Foster? What is your opinion?

My opinion is that I waste my time looking at nonsense like your post here.

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 09:24

scorpio83 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 05:45 I would please like to know what would happen if Dick Tiger campaign at heavyweight? Would he have success against rated contenders in the 1960s like Mickey Walker's heavyweight campaign and had the same crouching style or being a stepping stone for rated heavyweight contenders and champions like his light heavyweight conqueror Bob Foster? What is your opinion?

My opinion is that I waste my time looking at nonsense like your post here.

If you are wasting your time looking at my post that is nonsense, then why are you wasting your time insulting me and I never insulted you. I was asking the question for someone's opinion, so I could make it interesting and people who made their opinion find it interesting. Don't come to my post and insult me for no reason and don't reply to my post at all if you have nothing to say.

Flump wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 07:45 My initial thought is that he was campaigning out of his comfort zone even at Light Heavy, the step to Heavy would have been too much for him to make a dent. Great fighter though.

Thanks for your opinion Flump and I appreciate it.

Tiger Vs Marciano
Tiger Vs Patterson
Tiger Vs Moore
Tiger Vs Ingemar
Tiger Vs Liston
Tiger Vs Ali
Tiger vs Ellis
Tiger vs Terrell
Tiger Vs Frazier


All possible matchups during his time at bat.
Does this list put this thought into perspective?

I've even added a LHW that moved up in this list.


I don't see Tiger making it to the bell in any of these proposed options. And some of those look lethal, either by brutal instant demise, or the worst of slow torturous agony. All leading to certain naps before round 15.

I thought this was supposed to be a boxing history forum. It just seems to be one nonsensical "what if" thread after another, of which this is the most ludicrous. Dick Tiger wasn't a Heavyweight. End of.

What if Jimmy Wilde was a Heavyweight? What if Max Schmeling was an Italian?
What if Jack Dempsey was a southpaw?

Who cares?

If you are going to post about Dick Tiger then tell me something interesting about him. Something from "Boxing History". Not this twaddle.

Miles Templeton.

I can't disagree.....sort of a goofy what if.

What if.....instead of "fan man" or "parachute man" falling out of the sky on the Holyfield vs Bowe fight, it was RODAN that landed in the ring?

I bet that's something a lot of people have never thought to consider.

scorpio83 wrote: ↑30 Aug 2018, 07:08Don't come to my post and insult me for no reason and don't reply to my post at all if you have nothing to say.

You insult yourself.

Can't imagine it would've worked out too well for him. He probably would've been able to get wins over mediocre journeyman types, but I can't see him having any success against any Heavyweights of note.

Mr. Carton, you are the one insulting yourself not me. I was just asking hypothetical questions on how would this old time fighter fought at that division that would never ever happen.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 00:01 Can't imagine it would've worked out too well for him. He probably would've been able to get wins over mediocre journeyman types, but I can't see him having any success against any Heavyweights of note.

Thanks gilgamesh for making your opinion and I appreciate it. I strongly agree that Dick Tiger would have beaten heavyweight journeymen at best like Bob Foster did and like Foster, unsuccessful against heavyweight elites. I ask this hypothetical question about because I was impressed with former world welterweight and middleweight champion Mickey Walker fought rank heavyweights in his time. Also, former World Light Heavyweight Champion Harold Johnson and Willie Pastrano fought heavyweights as well. Even the man that Dick Tiger took the World Light Heavyweight Title from in Jose Torres fought heavyweight Tom McNeeley. However, we will never know how would Dick Tiger fare because he fought til the light heavyweight division.

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 09:21 What if Dick Tiger were to campaign at flyweight?

Why are you being so rude? The OP asked a sensible question. Plenty of boxers have moved up in weight. None have moved from middle to fly. None, zero, ever.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 05:34 The OP asked a sensible question.

That's your opinion.

prewarboxing wrote: ↑30 Aug 2018, 13:03 I thought this was supposed to be a boxing history forum. It just seems to be one nonsensical "what if" thread after another, of which this is the most ludicrous. Dick Tiger wasn't a Heavyweight. End of.

What if Jimmy Wilde was a Heavyweight? What if Max Schmeling was an Italian?
What if Jack Dempsey was a southpaw?

Who cares?

If you are going to post about Dick Tiger then tell me something interesting about him. Something from "Boxing History". Not this twaddle.

Miles Templeton.

Good post.

I was wondering if there was anyone posting here who has an IQ above 50.

Now now, it's all in good fun, even if this question to many of us seems a bit bland.

By the way.....still looking for feedback on my follow up. How would Rodan have changed the Bowe, Holyfield II outcome?

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 09:50

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 05:34 The OP asked a sensible question.

That's your opinion.

What's more likely. Tiger at heavy or fly?

When I first saw this thread, I thought that it was silly as well. However, if you really think about it, there have been several middleweights who moved up to heavyweight and had some success.
Bob Fitzsimmons, Tommy Burns, Sam Langford, Mickey Walker, Billy Conn, Jimmy Ellis, Roy Jones etc.
If Tiger was going to do it, he would have had to have moved up to light heavy much earlier then he actually did, and then heavyweight.
But no, I wouldn't bet on him being too successful.

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 09:56 Now now, it's all in good fun, even if this question to many of us seems a bit bland.

By the way.....still looking for feedback on my follow up. How would Rodan have changed the Bowe, Holyfield II outcome?

I'm gonna say that the fainting spell that Bowe's wife had that night would've been more like a complete heart attack...and also the entire arena and audience may have been turned to smoldering rubble

So...I guess the bout would've had to have been ruled a No Contest?

Not sure if the record for the undercard would've made it out of the rubble either. I mean sure the Televised portion of the undercard might, but the stuff that went down before it went to air might've been lost to history. Buried in the rubble that was the Rodan attack.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 11:04 When I first saw this thread, I thought that it was silly as well. However, if you really think about it, there have been several middleweights who moved up to heavyweight and had some success.
Bob Fitzsimmons, Tommy Burns, Sam Langford, Mickey Walker, Billy Conn, Jimmy Ellis, Roy Jones etc.
If Tiger was going to do it, he would have had to have moved up to light heavy much earlier then he actually did, and then heavyweight.
But no, I wouldn't bet on him being too successful.

I mean Tiger was a big, strong Middleweight so it's not THAT silly of a question IMO. I mean it's not the greatest hypothetical in Boxrec Forum history, but it's not just an outright stupid question like some are making out.

Just a few overly harsh critics here.

Back in the day there were many cases of middleweights beating heavyweights

From what I've heard the MW Harry Greb could lick every HW champ from Sullivan to Joshua/Wilder in chornological order....and on the very same night.

scorpio83 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 05:45 I would please like to know what would happen if Dick Tiger campaign at heavyweight?

What if Dick Tiger fought wearing red shoelaces?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 05:34

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 09:21 What if Dick Tiger were to campaign at flyweight?

Why are you being so rude? The OP asked a sensible question. Plenty of boxers have moved up in weight. None have moved from middle to fly. None, zero, ever.

Thanks Keith for defending me I appreciate it and yes, I was asking a sensible question because I want to make the subject interesting. Thanks Ambling Alp for making your opinion interesting and I appreciate it and thanks Gilgamesh for making your point of why I ask this question and I appreciate it as well.

Sidney Carton wrote: ↑01 Sep 2018, 21:12

scorpio83 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2018, 05:45 I would please like to know what would happen if Dick Tiger campaign at heavyweight?

What if Dick Tiger fought wearing red shoelaces?

You sir, are a cock.