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Billythekid25 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 19:18 hearing reports that they have sold 60 thousend tickets with 30 thourend remaining
not the instant sell out like last time

I have a cousin who is in the boxing game and they claim the last 20000 tickets will be given out for free

astradamus wrote: ↑01 Sep 2018, 15:21 This is exactly why a payout of 80m dollar from Wilder and his team for Povetkin and his team is nothing more then just fair.
Povetkin should be the WBC champion for many years now, but he never received it because of an American act/complot. At the same time Wilder shouldn't be ranked at all, the only thing he did was getting retired old drugsheads out of retirement to fight him, like Stiverne and Arreola.
I think the American government should punish the lab that blamed Povetkin wrongly including all the other retarded newsreporters that acted like Povetkin did anything wrong.
There's an innocent men where from everybody acts like he's guilty while he's not and never received the credits he deserves. Muhammad Ali would turn in his grave if he knew what happened. It's an embarassement for boxing as a sport that people still act like all time high scam/hypejob Deontay Wilder still owns a belt he should have last ages ago! In fact neither of the two Americans should ever have received a titleshot at all before Wilder received it and neither should any of the Americans Wilder fought ever after have received it.

For me Charles Martin deserves much much more credits then Deontay Wilder within the boxing community. At least Charles Martin fought the top and he didn't even do it in his own home village and he was even a very active heavyweight at the time, unlike Wilder who only fights bums from just around the corner every 6 months or so and continues to waste as much time as possible, like he allways did.
Wilder is destroying boxing as a sport for a bit of money while Povetkin and AJ do everything they can to promote the sport and fight top contenders. I genuinly hope Tyson Fury is just fooling all the dumb Americans right now to get boxing back to the spot where it belongs after he takes that belt away from the biggest scam ever. On top of that I hope there are no papertricks involved to keep it in American hands anyway.

Stuarty wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 19:30

Billythekid25 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2018, 19:18 hearing reports that they have sold 60 thousend tickets with 30 thourend remaining
not the instant sell out like last time

I have a cousin who is in the boxing game and they claim the last 20000 tickets will be given out for free

Hope so! They've left it too long between fights for him! A massive amount of the gate to his fights are casuals!

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Sep 2018, 14:47 60,000 tickets sold is far from a disappointment for any fighter not named Joshua.
But his popularity will continue to take a hit if he doesn't fight Wilder soon. It's the only fight that makes sense in the division.
Fans on both sides want it and ticket sales and Ppv will suffer until it's made.
Just my opinion

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:28

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Sep 2018, 14:47 60,000 tickets sold is far from a disappointment for any fighter not named Joshua.
But his popularity will continue to take a hit if he doesn't fight Wilder soon. It's the only fight that makes sense in the division.
Fans on both sides want it and ticket sales and Ppv will suffer until it's made.
Just my opinion

AJ's bout against Povetkin will inevitably be a commercial success and the stadium will be pretty much sold out when Sky Sports commences their relentless 27/7 marketing hype campaign.

The general public don't know who Wilder is, so don't kid yourself into believing that the Brit needs the American for continued commercial success, because he doesn't.

Hardcore fans may be frustrated about the AJ-Wilder bout not being made, but mainstream casuals really won't give a shït... and it's as simple as that!

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:28

tiny_acres wrote: ↑01 Sep 2018, 14:47 60,000 tickets sold is far from a disappointment for any fighter not named Joshua.
But his popularity will continue to take a hit if he doesn't fight Wilder soon. It's the only fight that makes sense in the division.
Fans on both sides want it and ticket sales and Ppv will suffer until it's made.
Just my opinion

AJ's bout against Povetkin will inevitably be a commercial success and the stadium will be pretty much sold out when Sky Sports commences their relentless 24/7 marketing hype campaign.

The general public don't know who Wilder is, so don't kid yourself into believing that the Brit needs the American for continued commercial success, because he doesn't.

Hardcore fans may be frustrated about the AJ-Wilder bout not being made, but mainstream casuals really won't give a shït... and it's as simple as that!

Nah that's not true. The UK casuals know who Wilder is and they know who Fury is.. Povetkin might take some explaining. AJ fans want him in those fights. The fact that they're fighting each other has cost AJ and Matchroom millions because he was supposed to fight one after the other. Whether he's dangerous or not, AJ fans just aren't that interested in seeing him in against another guy under 6'4 where he's cagey as eff and it goes to points or an unexciting stoppage.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 03:53

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:28
AJ's bout against Povetkin will inevitably be a commercial success and the stadium will be pretty much sold out when Sky Sports commences their relentless 24/7 marketing hype campaign.

The general public don't know who Wilder is, so don't kid yourself into believing that the Brit needs the American for continued commercial success, because he doesn't.

Hardcore fans may be frustrated about the AJ-Wilder bout not being made, but mainstream casuals really won't give a shït... and it's as simple as that!

Nah that's not true. The UK casuals know who Wilder is and they know who Fury is.. Povetkin might take some explaining. AJ fans want him in those fights. The fact that they're fighting each other has cost AJ and Matchroom millions because he was supposed to fight one after the other. Whether he's dangerous or not, AJ fans just aren't that interested in seeing him in against another guy under 6'4 where he's cagey as eff and it goes to points or an unexciting stoppage.

Mainstream casuals don’t stay up until 4.30am to watch Deontay Wilder fight. The American has only fought in the UK once, the vast majority of his non-championship bouts weren’t even televised on British shores and he has only ever faced one Brit, which was more than five years ago. His face is rarely seen on UK TV, even as a sports pundit. He definitely hasn’t appeared on talk shows in the UK.

In fact, the Bronze Bomber’s ring invasion during Tyson Fury’s most outing bout would be the first time he’s gained exposure to many UK fight fans.

As I’ve already previously stated, just because us hardcore fight fans know who Deontay Wilder is, we can’t assume that mainstream casuals in the UK are familiar with his name, because they aren’t, as there's no reason for them to do so.

For the record, I never mentioned Tyson Fury. I do believe he's a big name in the UK, but clearly not on AJ's level in terms of popularity.

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 06:51

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 03:53

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑02 Sep 2018, 19:46
Nah that's not true. The UK casuals know who Wilder is and they know who Fury is.. Povetkin might take some explaining. AJ fans want him in those fights. The fact that they're fighting each other has cost AJ and Matchroom millions because he was supposed to fight one after the other. Whether he's dangerous or not, AJ fans just aren't that interested in seeing him in against another guy under 6'4 where he's cagey as eff and it goes to points or an unexciting stoppage.

Mainstream casuals don’t stay up until 4.30am to watch Deontay Wilder fight. The American has only fought in the UK once, the vast majority of his non-championship bouts weren’t even televised on British shores and he has only ever faced one Brit, which was more than five years ago. His face is rarely seen on UK TV, even as a sports pundit. He definitely hasn’t appeared on talk shows in the UK.

In fact, the Bronze Bomber’s ring invasion during Tyson Fury’s most outing bout would be the first time he’s gained exposure to many UK fight fans.

As I’ve already previously stated, just because us hardcore fight fans know who Deontay Wilder is, we can’t assume that mainstream casuals in the UK are familiar with his name, because they aren’t, as there's no reason for them to do so.

For the record, I never mentioned Tyson Fury. I do believe he's a big name in the UK, but clearly not on AJ's level in terms of popularity.

Look I live in the UK. I deal with UK casuals every day. They know who Wilder is. They know he’s AJ’s biggest rival. They might not know anything else about him, but they know him and they want Femi to fight him. They call him Willder and display massive ignorance about his style and his record, but they kno he’s number 2 and AJ should fight him. They have no idea who Povetkin is hence the slow sales.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 07:11

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 06:51

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 03:53
Mainstream casuals don’t stay up until 4.30am to watch Deontay Wilder fight. The American has only fought in the UK once, the vast majority of his non-championship bouts weren’t even televised on British shores and he has only ever faced one Brit, which was more than five years ago. His face is rarely seen on UK TV, even as a sports pundit. He definitely hasn’t appeared on talk shows in the UK.

In fact, the Bronze Bomber’s ring invasion during Tyson Fury’s most outing bout would be the first time he’s gained exposure to many UK fight fans.

As I’ve already previously stated, just because us hardcore fight fans know who Deontay Wilder is, we can’t assume that mainstream casuals in the UK are familiar with his name, because they aren’t, as there's no reason for them to do so.

For the record, I never mentioned Tyson Fury. I do believe he's a big name in the UK, but clearly not on AJ's level in terms of popularity.

Look I live in the UK. I deal with UK casuals every day. They know who Wilder is. They know he’s AJ’s biggest rival. They might not know anything else about him, but they know him and they want Femi to fight him. They call him Willder and display massive ignorance about his style and his record, but they kno he’s number 2 and AJ should fight him. They have no idea who Povetkin is hence the slow sales.

How can a fighter be considered well-known to mainstream casuals in the UK if they gain almost no TV exposure in that territory?

Just because a few of your mates are familiar with Wilder's name that doesn't necessarily reflect the thoughts of the 66 million residents of the UK.

In terms of AJ's bout against Povetkin, Joshua will be the main draw here. His fans will tune into his fights regardless of opposition.

You're underestimating the effectiveness and relentlessness of the Sky Sports' 24/7 promotional campaign.

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 08:38

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 07:11

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 06:51
Look I live in the UK. I deal with UK casuals every day. They know who Wilder is. They know he’s AJ’s biggest rival. They might not know anything else about him, but they know him and they want Femi to fight him. They call him Willder and display massive ignorance about his style and his record, but they kno he’s number 2 and AJ should fight him. They have no idea who Povetkin is hence the slow sales.

How can a fighter be considered well-known to mainstream casuals in the UK if they gain almost no TV exposure in that territory?

Just because a few of your mates are familiar with Wilder's name that doesn't necessarily reflect the thoughts of the 66 million residents of the UK.

In terms of AJ's bout against Povetkin, Joshua will be the main draw here. His fans will tune into his fights regardless of opposition.

You're underestimating the effectiveness and relentlessness of the Sky Sports' 24/7 promotional campaign.

I don’t normally talk to you on here but does the word “condescending” come up much in your conversations?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 08:53

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 08:38

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 07:11
How can a fighter be considered well-known to mainstream casuals in the UK if they gain almost no TV exposure in that territory?

Just because a few of your mates are familiar with Wilder's name that doesn't necessarily reflect the thoughts of the 66 million residents of the UK.

In terms of AJ's bout against Povetkin, Joshua will be the main draw here. His fans will tune into his fights regardless of opposition.

You're underestimating the effectiveness and relentlessness of the Sky Sports' 24/7 promotional campaign.

I don’t normally talk to you on here but does the word “condescending” come up much in your conversations?

I justified my opinion by listing some pertinent points that are factually-correct. It was not my intention to quote facts and use logic to make you feel inferior.

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 09:18

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 08:53

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 08:38
I don’t normally talk to you on here but does the word “condescending” come up much in your conversations?

I justified my opinion by listing some pertinent points that are factually-correct. It was not my intention to quote facts and use logic to make you feel inferior.

I feel superior if anything as i’m normally quite nice unless riled and you seem to take delight in being a condescending, unpleasant little Fugmo like you’ve always been. Imagine sitting in a bar with you and you approach conversation like you post on here. You wouldn’t have many friends

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 10:19 100 means 100 percent of all people know somebody, which is impossible but let's say justin bieber, donald trump, michael jackson, madonna, schwarzenegger etc. are global celebreties who allmost everybody knows everywhere. So what rating do you guys think has wilder in america, the uk and worldwide? I would say 20, 10 and 2! Just get your estimated number out there then maybe somebody finds a poll who proves who's closer and stop argueing over nothing at all. Do i make sense? I think nobody with a clue gives a poo about wilder, deservingly so based on his performance, except a few hardcore fans who buy into his "fight anybody","toughest sob", "killer from the bronx" wanting "a body", dead opponent on his record-sheet-shite, plain and simple disgusting, retarded poo. Fury will expose him as the fraud he is.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 13:42
Fury couldn’t shift 10k tickets for a Wlad rematch in his hometown. Joshua did 70k for fighting Takam in Wales. He’s a different level to anyone else in the heavyweight division and virtually everyone else in boxing right now.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 19:57

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2018, 13:42
Fury couldn’t shift 10k tickets for a Wlad rematch in his hometown. Joshua did 70k for fighting Takam in Wales. He’s a different level to anyone else in the heavyweight division and virtually everyone else in boxing right now.

70k for Pulev.. Takam stepped in on fight week.