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dalcumly wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 08:35 1 Major story of how a drug cheat became world champion.

2 Financial problems for Hearn/Joshua ( sponsorship and appearances)

3 Doubt about Joshua's ability

4 Wilder fight off for foreseeable.

5 Re-match clause , but when and where.

6 strict drug testing for Povetkin before re-match.

7 Wilder v Fury fight then becomes a real title fight due to Povetkin's unpopularity???

Just a few suggestions, which makes me think that if the fight's close and goes the distance do I think Povetkin will get the nod?
No neither do I ?

Scoops wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 10:01 "Financial problems for Hearn/Joshua"



The two of them already have enough cash never to have to do another days work in their lives.

If Joshua loses the rematch next April is even bigger and he gets another monster pay day!

dalcumly wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 08:35 5 Re-match clause , but when and where.

Scoops wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 10:01 "Financial problems for Hearn/Joshua"



The two of them already have enough cash never to have to do another days work in their lives.

If Joshua loses the rematch next April is even bigger and he gets another monster pay day!

dalcumly wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 14:43 yes, Joshua is never going to be poor but when you're no longer the heavyweight champion and your invincibility bubble has burst where's the new contract with Under Armour etc. Where's the appearance money on this show and that show. There's an awful lot of people on the Joshua payroll.
By the way, and not being an accountant, can someone answer me this . If Joshua earns £20 million from this fight, does 25% not go to his manager and a further 10% goes to his trainer? That could equate to about £7 million being whacked off. If someone earns more than £100,000 a year do they not pay tax at 40%. I would guess that Joshua's pay out of £20 will be about £7 million. Great reward, and making him very rich ,but people with this amount of money don't live like you and I. They don't haggle with the car salesman to get a few hundred knocked off the 3 year old Mondeo. They don't have a fortnight's holiday in Benidorm and they don't rent a flat for a few hundred a month.
He will have accountants and lawyers who will advise and wealth management consultants , but they all need agents fees.
Towards the end of Henry Cooper's career, he was probably the most famous sportsman in the UK, and very wealthy. He became a 'member' at Lloyds. When the Torry Canyon sunk with a full cargo the insurance was covered by Henry's group at Llyods. He was bankrupted and had to sell his 3 Lonsdale Belts to survive.
When you live like a king, you need to keep earning, and a defeat to Povetkin would hurt. Just ask Mike Tyson.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 14:59

dalcumly wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 14:43 yes, Joshua is never going to be poor but when you're no longer the heavyweight champion and your invincibility bubble has burst where's the new contract with Under Armour etc. Where's the appearance money on this show and that show. There's an awful lot of people on the Joshua payroll.
By the way, and not being an accountant, can someone answer me this . If Joshua earns £20 million from this fight, does 25% not go to his manager and a further 10% goes to his trainer? That could equate to about £7 million being whacked off. If someone earns more than £100,000 a year do they not pay tax at 40%. I would guess that Joshua's pay out of £20 will be about £7 million. Great reward, and making him very rich ,but people with this amount of money don't live like you and I. They don't haggle with the car salesman to get a few hundred knocked off the 3 year old Mondeo. They don't have a fortnight's holiday in Benidorm and they don't rent a flat for a few hundred a month.
He will have accountants and lawyers who will advise and wealth management consultants , but they all need agents fees.
Towards the end of Henry Cooper's career, he was probably the most famous sportsman in the UK, and very wealthy. He became a 'member' at Lloyds. When the Torry Canyon sunk with a full cargo the insurance was covered by Henry's group at Llyods. He was bankrupted and had to sell his 3 Lonsdale Belts to survive.
When you live like a king, you need to keep earning, and a defeat to Povetkin would hurt. Just ask Mike Tyson.

Now way is AJ's manager getting 25%, he has his own company.

tony1234 wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 15:33 The hype train is derailed, if he is KO'd he can say he was caught cold etc but if he gets outpointed or outfought then it would be tough to build him up again as the unbeaten record and invincibility has gone.

He could come back from a Fury or Wilder loss but coming back from a defeat by Povetkin would be hard work.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 15:37

tony1234 wrote: ↑21 Sep 2018, 15:33 The hype train is derailed, if he is KO'd he can say he was caught cold etc but if he gets outpointed or outfought then it would be tough to build him up again as the unbeaten record and invincibility has gone.

He could come back from a Fury or Wilder loss but coming back from a defeat by Povetkin would be hard work.

ZERO chance of him being outpointed. KO'd, yeah that can happen, but Povetkin outboxing him? No f*cking way that even come closes to happening.