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AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:14
by dagilechia
Joshua 90/256
Povetkin 47/181

No way! These stats are not legit. Is there someone who still believes in compubox stats? According to compubox, Povetkin landed only 10 times to the body while Joshua landed 29...Joshua outlanded Povetkin in every round

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:18
by DrDuke
Nonsense indeed.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:25
by greg
https://www.BS.com/anthony-jos ... ts--132088

not exactly how I saw it..

PS: I'm also reading the official scorecards were: 59-55, 58-56, 58-56 in Joshua's favour..can anyone confirm it?

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:53
by Ruthless-RKO
:evil:
greg wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:25 https://www.BS.com/anthony-jos ... ts--132088

not exactly how I saw it..

PS: I'm also reading the official scorecards were: 59-55, 58-56, 58-56 in Joshua's favour..can anyone confirm it?
Yup! They where the scorecards.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:54
by jamamb
agree very odd stats

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:56
by Ruthless-RKO
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Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:57
by DrDuke
Stats-counters are the same biased as judges.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 05:58
by Ruthless-RKO
DrDuke wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:57 Stats-counters are the same biased as judges.
They focus more on 1 person. Just like the Sky Pundits. Only notice what AJ did.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 06:05
by greg
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:53 :evil:
greg wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:25 https://www.BS.com/anthony-jos ... ts--132088

not exactly how I saw it..

PS: I'm also reading the official scorecards were: 59-55, 58-56, 58-56 in Joshua's favour..can anyone confirm it?
Yup! They where the scorecards.
..first off, I believe Joshua did a great job in the 7th round...it seems to me though that the system (venue+judges, etc) would have screwed Povetkin anyway, had it come to scorecards after the 12th round..

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 06:06
by dagilechia
Povetkin landed 5 in round 1?!?!? What a joke! I just watched some short highlights, in round 1 he landed at least 3 100% clean body punches, 1 one-two combination super clean as well so you already have 5 punches and i doubt it were even half of punches he landed in this round. He landed easily 10-15 punches in round 1.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 06:17
by Ruthless-RKO
LOL at Joshua not landing any power shots in round 5..
greg wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 06:05 ..first off, I believe Joshua did a great job in the 7th round...it seems to me though that the system (venue+judges, etc) would have screwed Povetkin anyway, had it come to scorecards after the 12th round..
Just what I said. AJ did Pov a favour ending it early then. Cuz the scorecards would have ended up being wide!!

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 14:57
by Deleted_Scenes
astradamus wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 06:31 I can't imagine those judges really scored it that way and the only source I found that claimed it was scored this way where unreliable, possibly even guesswork or trolls.
Those were definitely the official scores. 59-55 and 58-56 (x2), all to Joshua.

I had it 4-2 Povetkin (rounds 1, 2, 3 and 5), not that it matters. 3 of the 6 rounds were pretty close, but clearly some home cooking was being prepared.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 15:01
by drunkenpiper36
Utter crap... I also thought that the Parker fight was a hell of a lot closer than the judges had it. If this kind of favoritism continues nobodies going to want to fight Anthony on his home turf

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 15:09
by dagilechia
Looks like 3/4 people had it 4-2 Povetkin (including myself, i gave rounds 1,2,3,5 to Povetkin) but "professional judges" saw it otherwise once again. They scores are as bad and wrong as compubox stats. Only people who havent seen the fight would believe that Povetkin landed only 47 times. They want us to believe that Povetkin threw same amount of punches as Breazeale did vs AJ in the same amount of time (Povetkin 47/181 vs Breazeale 38/181)

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 15:15
by jamamb
he deserved 3 rounds at minimum. those compubox stats are hilariously bad and just make it look like there in bed with aj

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 15:18
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 15:15 he deserved 3 rounds at minimum. those compubox stats are hilariously bad and just make it look like there in bed with aj
Yeah. Those have gotta be some of the most obviously inaccurate Compubox stats I've seen.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 17:48
by pound per pound
DrDuke wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:57 Stats-counters are the same biased as judges.
Maybe so, but they show Povetkin landed more power punches in rounds 1,2,3,4 and 5. Interesting.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 23 Sep 2018, 18:21
by jujigatame
What is so implausible about those punch counts? Povetkin threw near 0 jabs so of course the totals will be a little lopsided towards AJ.

I had it 3-3 at the time of stoppage. I think 5-1 AJ is a little lopsided and probably influenced by the crowd, but ultimately it didn't matter.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 24 Sep 2018, 03:24
by Ilya Muromets
Punchstats are almost as phony as boxing judges scorecards. Both are written down by hired employees getting paid by the house. They try to make it sound like it's something very scientific. Once I actually compared my own honest count with theirpunchstat count. The relationship between the two was purely coincidental.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 25 Sep 2018, 14:23
by SenorPipino
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:58
DrDuke wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:57 Stats-counters are the same biased as judges.
They focus more on 1 person. Just like the Sky Pundits. Only notice what AJ did.
Aren't there 2 statisticians who count the punches? One assigned to each fighter?

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 25 Sep 2018, 14:40
by Exoddus
They've been fixing the compubox stats now for years. So they can justify the intended screw-job. I posted about the compubox stats being fixed after the Medina vs Degale fight over 2 years ago and I was flamed for it.

Now people can see in black and white that it's fixed. Boxing is the most bent sport in the world.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 25 Sep 2018, 14:40
by Ruthless-RKO
SenorPipino wrote: 25 Sep 2018, 14:23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:58
DrDuke wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:57 Stats-counters are the same biased as judges.
They focus more on 1 person. Just like the Sky Pundits. Only notice what AJ did.
Aren't there 2 statisticians who count the punches? One assigned to each fighter?
Maybe there’s 4? 2’for each boxer and then 1 each to count jabs and power shots.

I take it they just push a button?

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 25 Sep 2018, 15:46
by bigman1968
Don't know who or what makes the punch statistics, but always remember that the judges always watch "different fight".

We, TV audience, see the fight from much better angles, and with much wider perspective. On the over hand, they are much closer and can also hear the voices of punches.

Re: AJ vs Povetkin punch stats

Posted: 26 Sep 2018, 08:51
by hoagylt
DrDuke wrote: 23 Sep 2018, 05:57 Stats-counters are the same biased as judges.
Very much and usually they are Bull.