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Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 09:23**

"WBC Orders Golovkin to Face Charlo for Interim Title"

Any hopes that Gennady Golovkin had of an immediate rematch, to complete the trilogy, with Canelo Alvarez have been dashed.

The WBC announced today that GGG is to face Jermall Charlo (27-0 21 KO) with the winner to face Canelo.

Canelo will be allowed a voluntary defense this year.

Charlo, 28, the former IBF light middleweight champion has been waiting for his chance to take on one of the two big guns in the division and finally gets an opportunity.

Charlo won the interim title last time out when he defeated the then undefeated Hugo Centeno Jr in two rounds.

Golovkin who felt hard done by the results in the two matches with Canelo may decide this is the best route back for the trilogy opportunity, with Canelo expected to fight again later this year against an as yet unnamed opponent.

With the news that HBO has left the boxing business, GGG and other HBO tied up fighters can now make deals with different TV companies which could make deals easier to make, especially with Charlo signed to Showtime.

Thoughts?

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 09:28**

Jermall Charlo defeated the middleweight division’s highest-ranked WBC title challenger when he stopped Jorge Sebastian Heiland within four rounds, which was a final eliminator to determine the mandatory challenger to face GGG (as confirmed by Mauricio Sulaiman himself).

He then became the WBC's interim 160-pound champion when he KO’d Hugo Centeno Jr. during his very next outing, a bout that was ordered by the WBC, which further cemented his mandatory challenger status.

Jermall Charlo has been the mandatory challenger to the WBC middleweight crown for more than fourteen months! Charlo was told by the WBC that the winner of the Canelo vs. Golovkin rematch would be forced to face him next, but it seems they lied.

Instead, Jermall Charlo has to engage in a third consecutive final eliminator, this time against GGG, in order to gain his long-awaiting shot at the WBC title!

Normally I’d be outraged about such an absurd situation, but at least the PBC fighter will earn a lofty payday (win or lose) if Golovkin is willing to accept the WBC’s proposal. It's a fight I'd love to see!

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 11:09**

GGG is capable to defeat him IF he can be still at his prime at the time of the fight. Charlo is dangerous

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 11:17**

Golovkin lost only on paper. It's hard to tell, if he really declined. His last performances (Canelo and Jacobs) are not so good in the sense, that GGG's trademark dominance disappeared. But those fights also marked an appearence of higher level opposition. And actually Charlo hasn't yet proved, that he is close to at least Jacobs. So I'd pick GGG to handle Charlo.

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 11:37**

WBC does their usual thing -- protecting their champions from strong but not so marketable opponents. Charlo had a chance of beating Canelo (maybe not on judges' cards), but now he has a bigger challenge.

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 11:47**

He should tell them to fcuk right off!

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 12:13**

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 11:47 He should tell them to fcuk right off!

In light of giving Canelo a free hand, I hope he does. Enough is enough.

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 12:21**

Seems cool to me. If Golovkin beat Charlo, it would be one of the best wins of his career, and it would recharge the value he brings to an Alvarez - Golovkin rubber match. If Charlo won, it would be even more meaningful; because then we'd have a challenger even better than Golovkin to face Alvarez.

On a related note, two fighters fighting each other over and over doesn't do anything to continually lift up their legacies. They need wins over other opponents. It can't just be like "I don't know how good Alvarez and Golovkin are, but I know they've drawn against each other 11 times." Golovkin's best wins in his entire career are Danny Jacobs and Vanes Martirosyan; and that isn't going to look very amazing in hindsight. If Golovkin goes and gets a win better than Martirosyan, which is what Charlo would be, then it benefits both Golovkin's legacy and Alvarez's legacy. If Alvarez and Golovkin draw again, it doesn't really alter their legacies at all.

Also, whenever Alvarez / Ward get narrow decisions or draws against Golovkin / Kovalev, a lot of you just bitch and complain. Unless you are masochists, I don't understand why you would want to go through that again. If I told you up front that a third Alvarez - Golovkin match would end in a narrow decision victory for Alvarez, and that you would think Golovkin won it, and that you'd complain about the judges on forums for months, maybe years, are you SURE you would still want that rubber match to go ahead? That'd the best case scenario for you; worst case is that Alvarez KO's Golovkin with an uppercut and you complain about it being a low blow for the next several decades. Are you sure that this is really what you want?

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 12:27**

Lackeos wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 12:21 Seems cool to me. If Golovkin beat Charlo, it would be one of the best wins of his career, and it would recharge the value he brings to an Alvarez - Golovkin rubber match. If Charlo won, it would be even more meaningful; because then we'd have a challenger even better than Golovkin to face Alvarez.

Unless some start saying GGG has beatin yet another blown up LMW.

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 13:20**

Lackeos wrote: ↑03 Oct 2018, 12:21 Seems cool to me. If Golovkin beat Charlo, it would be one of the best wins of his career, and it would recharge the value he brings to an Alvarez - Golovkin rubber match. If Charlo won, it would be even more meaningful; because then we'd have a challenger even better than Golovkin to face Alvarez.

On a related note, two fighters fighting each other over and over doesn't do anything to continually lift up their legacies. They need wins over other opponents. It can't just be like "I don't know how good Alvarez and Golovkin are, but I know they've drawn against each other 11 times." Golovkin's best wins in his entire career are Danny Jacobs and Vanes Martirosyan; and that isn't going to look very amazing in hindsight. If Golovkin goes and gets a win better than Martirosyan, which is what Charlo would be, then it benefits both Golovkin's legacy and Alvarez's legacy. If Alvarez and Golovkin draw again, it doesn't really alter their legacies at all.

Also, whenever Alvarez / Ward get narrow decisions or draws against Golovkin / Kovalev, a lot of you just bitch and complain. Unless you are masochists, I don't understand why you would want to go through that again. If I told you up front that a third Alvarez - Golovkin match would end in a narrow decision victory for Alvarez, and that you would think Golovkin won it, and that you'd complain about the judges on forums for months, maybe years, are you SURE you would still want that rubber match to go ahead? That'd the best case scenario for you; worst case is that Alvarez KO's Golovkin with an uppercut and you complain about it being a low blow for the next several decades. Are you sure that this is really what you want?

Lackofbrains, why do you care what somebody bitches about? If you are a boxing fan, should you instead be happy to see a close matchup of two elite fighters?

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 21:51**

It’s now or never for ggg. While he has some life in him. Hard fight though coming off a very hard fight. Credit to him if he takes it.

Posted: **03 Oct 2018, 21:57**

mall beats ggg

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 00:17**

I don’t see the corruption. Basically number 2 and 3 fight for a shot at fighting #1. If this was applied to every division, boxing would be a real sport and not some competition on the fringes of being relegated out of the mainstream. Canelo earned the right to take tune up fight in December as long as he truly fighrs the winner in May.

If GGG camp wanted to avoid this scenario he and his camp should have launched an all out assult on canelo instead of primarily relying on a plethora of semi effective jabs.

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 03:56**

Luckybattles wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 00:17 I don’t see the corruption. Basically number 2 and 3 fight for a shot at fighting #1.

Read the second post in this thread for more details about the events that have actually transpired.

The winner of the GGG-Canelo rematch was supposed to defend their WBC title against the long-time mandatory challenger, Jermall Charlo, who had already successfully competed in two WBC-ordered final eliminators.

Canelo is being allowed to participate in a voluntary defence, despite the WBC’s previous assertions about him being obliged to face his mandatory challenger next, which has resulted in Jermall Charlo needlessly engaging in three consecutive final eliminators.

What’s the point of there being “final” eliminators, when they aren’t final? What’s the point in there being “mandatory” challengers, if the champion is allowed to avoid facing them? What’s the point in the WBC making statements about how their titles will be handled, if they always go back on their word?

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 22:07**

I understand what you are saying but it’s not like Charlo has faced killers row. Off the top of my head he has fought someone, (who was never actually that good and possessed minimal power) about 10 years past his prime and a straight up bum out of the Argentine amateur circuit. All hype aside, and based on pure resume, Charlo doesn’t deserve a shot anymore than Erislandy Lara. Only corruption here is allowing Charlo a free ride to the top. People talking like he is coming off a knockout of Daniel Jacobs, Hurd, and Ursk.

3 meaningless eliminators for Charlo = 3 easy televised paydays.

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 22:46**

I'll gladly watch Charlo-GGG over GGG-Canelo 3 any day of the week!! I give Charlo almost a 50/50 chance to beat Golovkin. Should be a compelling matchup.

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 23:07**

Best Coast wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 22:46 I'll gladly watch Charlo-GGG over GGG-Canelo 3 any day of the week!! I give Charlo almost a 50/50 chance to beat Golovkin. Should be a compelling matchup.

charlo will beat ggg if it happens, changing of the guard again

i will bet all over charlo if hes underdog, or even if at evens. made some good money on canelo beating ggg too

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 23:15**

jamamb wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 23:07
Best Coast wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 22:46 I'll gladly watch Charlo-GGG over GGG-Canelo 3 any day of the week!! I give Charlo almost a 50/50 chance to beat Golovkin. Should be a compelling matchup.
charlo will beat ggg if it happens, changing of the guard again

i will bet all over charlo if hes underdog, or even if at evens. made some good money on canelo beating ggg too

I wont be surprised it Charlo IS underdog against GGG. Many dont realize that Golovkin has faded a bit at age 36 and Charlo IMO is somewhat underrated because his resume is not very deep..

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 23:40**

Best Coast wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 23:15
jamamb wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 23:07
Best Coast wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 22:46 I'll gladly watch Charlo-GGG over GGG-Canelo 3 any day of the week!! I give Charlo almost a 50/50 chance to beat Golovkin. Should be a compelling matchup.
charlo will beat ggg if it happens, changing of the guard again

i will bet all over charlo if hes underdog, or even if at evens. made some good money on canelo beating ggg too
I wont be surprised it Charlo IS underdog against GGG. Many dont realize that Golovkin has faded a bit at age 36 and Charlo IMO is somewhat underrated because his resume is not very deep..

Charlo has all the physical advantages, size, youth, length and is able to drop people with a jab. Saying that a prime Canelo with more ring experience and from what we’ve seen, better skills than charlo wasn’t able to beat golovkin decisively with two opportunities to do so. There’s still life in golovkin, he should take this fight right away.

Posted: **04 Oct 2018, 23:55**

ggg will only win if charlo doesnt have a chin

Posted: **05 Oct 2018, 00:34**

jamamb wrote: ↑04 Oct 2018, 23:55 ggg will only win if charlo doesnt have a chin

and it continues.

Posted: **05 Oct 2018, 00:36**

i was right on the last one bruh

Posted: **05 Oct 2018, 00:42**

jamamb wrote: ↑05 Oct 2018, 00:36 i was right on the last one bruh

Really? Thought you were very confident Canelo would beat him easy. Didn’t look easy. Not to mention who people thought won.

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