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Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 00:04
by Ilya Muromets
Beterbiev vs Johnson was some slugfest. I thought B's knockdown of J in round one was an illegal punch after the ref said stop and J was partially out of the ropes. B went down in round two, the first time he's ever been down. I thought J didn't follow up aggressively enough, and then he himself got ko'd in the next round.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 00:07
by jamamb
beterbiev was down before vs jeff page

it was a real fun short fight. bert i felt got way too open when going after a hurt johnson in the second and left himself open to that counter shot knockdown. bert was hurting johnson repeatedly but johnson gave it a real good effort

bert has the power to hurt any lhw, and he has the best 'short' shots of any lhw, but i dont see him lasting too many fights at top level before getting beat...too open, espec when he gets aggressive

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 00:11
by victor-romeo
Beterbiev too inactive, too low level of competition catching up with him. Bivol would have KO"D him tonight..This fight tonight might turn out good for him if follows up with a few more fights fairly rapidly..

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 00:19
by Ilya Muromets
"beterbiev was down before vs jeff page"

I stand corrected.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 01:04
by boxing_rocks
In the meanwhile, Arthur's neighbor, Khabib, brutalized Callum's neighbor, Connor.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 01:17
by jamamb
khabib actually dropped him with a punch too, despite being the wrestler

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 03:32
by Blodhemn
Regarding the KD in the first, it's protect yourself at all times, perfectly legal.

Beterbiev looks old. Long amateurs, injuries and management completely uninterested. His time is about up before much getting started. A message is clear, stay away from the French management if you want a noteworthy career.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 03:55
by DrDuke
Johnson made a brave try of brawling with the puncher, but it wasn't a smart tactics. It was clear from the 1st round. Johnson managed to catch Beterbiev in the 2nd though. But with Beterbiev becoming more cautious Johnson's aggressive tactics appeared to be absolutely ineffective. Beterbiev looks like the worst of the current champions at the LHWs. Maybe Stevenson is worse now, cause he's an old fart. But I'll still pick Kovalev over Beterbiev.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 04:03
by jamamb
thats the type of fighter johnson is though, agressive and goes right at his opponents, problem for him was that here he was running into a guy with a lot more power

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 04:40
by candyslim
I doubt it really affected the result but Beterbiev was loading up to land a big shot at the place where Johnson's head was going to be when he withdrew his head from beyond the ropes. That has to be foul - you cannot defend yourself adequately when you're halfway through the ropes.

Johnson made a real fight of it. I don't see how he could have approached it any better given the styles and abilities of the fighters. If I have a criticism it's that he allowed Beterbiev to recover when he dropped him when he should have been picking power shots in an effort to finish him.

A great fight to watch. I started to watch McGregor but it was putting me to sleep. Just not my thing I'm afraid.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 10:33
by adislav123
Beterbiev is damn strong. If anything he underestimated jognson, thought he can't be touched and got caught right on the spot but was up instantly, not hurt at all. Shows he can take a punch. I don't think he's easy to hurt. He likely will defend few times against handpicked opponents but will rise to the occasion if presented, but what do i know.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 13:23
by victor-romeo
adislav123 wrote: 07 Oct 2018, 10:33 Beterbiev is damn strong. If anything he underestimated jognson, thought he can't be touched and got caught right on the spot but was up instantly, not hurt at all. Shows he can take a punch. I don't think he's easy to hurt. He likely will defend few times against handpicked opponents but will rise to the occasion if presented, but what do i know.
I think Johnson buzzed him a little in the first or second round. I think Beterbiev chin is not A+ from watching last night I would say his chin is B- and with his porous looking defense last night would not matter if his chin was A+ against someone like Bivol, or Alvarez, I would say the only upside and hope for Beterbiev is that he will improve greatly from last nights performance with a lot of activity.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 14:41
by Lackeos
Wow, Callum Johnson. Beterbiev really is building a legendary legacy like everyone predicted. Now I understand why so many people said he was going to be even better than Kovalev.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 15:23
by ValMar
I have a strong feeling that Beterbiev vasted his prime. Sad, very sad. :verysad:

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 16:50
by tiny_acres
ValMar wrote: 07 Oct 2018, 15:23 I have a strong feeling that Beterbiev vasted his prime. Sad, very sad. :verysad:
:TU: he really might have.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 17:11
by victor-romeo
ValMar wrote: 07 Oct 2018, 15:23 I have a strong feeling that Beterbiev vasted his prime. Sad, very sad. :verysad:
:TU: Yes very sad..

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 00:31
by rorschach
I thought Johnson was going to pull it off, he jumps right in there and gets the knockdown, but doesn't do the same to follow up and finish him. I don't know, he could have had him and been champion.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 00:48
by Ilya Muromets
rorschach wrote: 08 Oct 2018, 00:31 I thought Johnson was going to pull it off, he jumps right in there and gets the knockdown, but doesn't do the same to follow up and finish him. I don't know, he could have had him and been champion.

I too was disappointed in his failure to try to finish B after he knocked him down. Really he did nothing at all and didn't even try. You've got to seize the moment. It could have been a huge upset.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 02:21
by candyslim
That's right. You could almost watch Beterbiev's brain-cells unscrambling themselves second by second and Johnson is just watching him get it back together, without seeking to capitalize on his opportunity.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 02:25
by jamamb
johnson himself was still recovering, hed been hurt pretty much immediately before the knockdown (and of course the first round) . he scored the kd in the first place because beterbiev got wild and open following up when he hurt johnson just before

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 02:32
by candyslim
Maybe that was the reason but he looked okay to me. I could be wrong.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 02:37
by jamamb
well, did he look fine when were complaining about him not following up at all? maybe that was part of the effect? i mean i doubt he was thinking 'hey, im just gonna let him recover for the hell of it'


he had clearly been hurt right before. its right there to see. and dropping his opponent doesnt take that effect way. its easy to say now he blew it, because we know he ended up losing, but at the time it could also be seen that it was buying him more recovery time himself, and that he was being composed and not reckless vs a guy whod already shown he could hurt him quite easily..

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 03:03
by candyslim
Makes sense I guess.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 01:08
by thekenneth
Ilya Muromets wrote: 07 Oct 2018, 00:19 "beterbiev was down before vs jeff page"

I stand corrected.


He was down it was a legal knockdown but he wasn't even hurt at all. Balance shot. It was similar to the australian guy that dropped Kovalev. the Johnson Knockout Beterbiev looked pretty hurt and I was nervous he'd get stopped but he regained his wits and boxed instead.

Re: Beterbiev vs. Johnson

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 08:36
by TheBeast
Image

light heavyweight
Artur Beterbiev 12 0 0
vs
Callum Johnson 17 0 0
International Boxing Federation World Light Heavyweight Title

Beterbiev won by 4th round KO
Johnson down in round 1 and 4
Beterbiev knocked down in round 2



Adamek needs to retire or stay locally in big ppv events for his polish fans

Beterbiev gave no respect to Callum and he paid for it. Callum did much better than expected although you could see he wouldn't be able to sustain that pace while Beterbiev was pretty economical although in a war.

Beterbiev needs some tougher challenges where he needs to be at his best, not go all out for a quick sloppy KO.

He was truly hurt after that KD...



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