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Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 12:35
by DrDuke
What were the most well-known one-sided bouts? Especially on the higher level, cause a top guy outclassing some noname isn't a surprising thing. There were some dominant performances, where winners arguably took all rounds. Those were the bouts like Larry Holmes vs Earnie Shavers 1, Roy Jones vs James Toney, Floyd Mayweather vs Juan Manuel Marquez, Wladimir Klitschko vs Alexander Povetkin, Oleksandr Usyk vs Murat Gassiev. And what examples come in your mind?
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 12:42
by Srebmun
Mayweather vs Canelo.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 13:02
by APerno
Gee that's sad, we are praising fighters for winning 10-9 rounds; I guess in the fight game the definition of greatness has changed.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 13:21
by DrDuke
APerno wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018, 13:02
Gee that's sad, we are praising fighters for winning 10-9 rounds; I guess in the fight game the definition of greatness has changed.
The definition of greatness is complex.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 15:05
by dr_devious
Calzaghe v Lacy was a huge one sided shutout
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 15:51
by BoxBuzz
dr_devious wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018, 15:05
Calzaghe v Lacy was a huge one sided shutout
Yep....and Ali Terrell was another.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 20:30
by bwu
Sugar Ray Leonard-Roberto Duran III. I don't know if we are limited to decision fights, but this made me think of Floyd Mayweather's utter dominance of Diego Corrales. On paper, it was a very competitive fight. At bell time, it was a total sweep until the late round knockout.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 21:38
by HomicideHenry
I'm assuming you mean decisions--- instead of "blow outs" where people were knocked out very fast (ie. Hearns vs Duran) but.... I dont think you'd ever find a more wide decision than possibly Tex Cobb vs Larry Holmes where it was 15 rounds to nothing all in favor of Holmes.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 22:40
by APerno
I always had this strange idea that the Holmes-Cobb fight was akin to understanding Johnson-Willard. Had it gone 26 rounds would Cobb have caught up to Holmes? There seemed nothing in Holmes "boxing dominance" that suggested he would have stopped Cobb if the fight had kept going. How many more rounds did Holmes have left, 26? -- Just not impressed with 10-9 rounds even if they are a shut out. More and more it has become about winning the boxing match, not the fight, and the reduction to 12 rounds has aided the 'fighter' who only seeks to win a majority of 10-9 rounds and not actually win the fight.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 07 Oct 2018, 23:06
by HomicideHenry
If all fights were 50 rounds
Chuvalo, Cobb, Jeffries, etc would have been unbeatable. No doubt had it been a "no holds barred" brawl Cobb would have taken Holmes to the woodshed, but Holmes was knocking the snot out of Cobb.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 03:18
by Yuzo
counter punchers are the guys who tend to get shut out. cause they wait.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 04:44
by dagilechia
Vitali vs Briggs
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 10:34
by DrDuke
If to mention KOs, but not fast ones, then Holmes-Ali can be mentioned. So we had Holmes in this thread for several times. I actually saw Berbick fight very one-sided too, Berbick probably didn't took a single round. Larry was a dominator, sent back to school some tough fellas.
Wlad actually was about the same. He also had some absolutely dominant performances, when opponents were stopped in the mid or late rounds. Those were bouts like vs Chagaev, Byrd 2, Brewster 2, Rahman.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 11:27
by Tony1244
BoxBuzz wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018, 15:51
dr_devious wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018, 15:05
Calzaghe v Lacy was a huge one sided shutout
Yep....and Ali Terrell was another.
You guys are saying what I was going to write.
Whitaker-Haugen
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 11:29
by Tony1244
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018, 23:06
If all fights were 50 rounds
Chuvalo, Cobb, Jeffries, etc would have been unbeatable. No doubt had it been a "no holds barred" brawl Cobb would have taken Holmes to the woodshed, but Holmes was knocking the snot out of Cobb.
I don't see how Cobb could have come back from all that punishment if it was 20 or 50 rounds.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 12:15
by Nile4000
Mancini vs Ramirez.
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 19:03
by HomicideHenry
Tony1244 wrote: ↑08 Oct 2018, 11:29
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018, 23:06
If all fights were 50 rounds
Chuvalo, Cobb, Jeffries, etc would have been unbeatable. No doubt had it been a "no holds barred" brawl Cobb would have taken Holmes to the woodshed, but Holmes was knocking the snot out of Cobb.
I don't see how Cobb could have come back from all that punishment if it was 20 or 50 rounds.
We'll never know, unfortunately, because it never happened. However, Cobb was quite the formidable man with tons of reserves. His conditioning is often underscored by people who focus mainly on his toughness. And despite his lack of any real serious power at heavyweight--- He did throw alot of punches in that ring, and personally I thought Cobb did enough to defeat Ken Norton in their fight.
If Cobb were to somehow win, it'd be after 25 rounds (I'd suspect) and Holmes would start tiring fast because of the pace and the workrate he put out for 15 rounds--- Cobb used to say, "I didn't lose the fight I just lost the first fifteen rounds. If the fight was 30 rounds Holmes would have fell over dead from exhaustion." I'll give Cobb the benefit of the doubt because this is, after all, a man who fought off and defeated an entire BASEBALL TEAM armed with ball bats--- and after years of NOT competing in kickboxing, had two awesome fights with "Big" John Jackson for the world's title (ie, lost the first & won the second).
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 08 Oct 2018, 20:09
by APerno
For the first 15 rounds, wasn't it likely that Johnson was pitching shut-out over Willard? It's hard to envision Willard winning an early round from Johnson. Wonder if a newspaper round by round exist of the fight?
Re: Most notable shutouts
Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 09:29
by Tony1244
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑08 Oct 2018, 19:03
Tony1244 wrote: ↑08 Oct 2018, 11:29
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑07 Oct 2018, 23:06
If all fights were 50 rounds
Chuvalo, Cobb, Jeffries, etc would have been unbeatable. No doubt had it been a "no holds barred" brawl Cobb would have taken Holmes to the woodshed, but Holmes was knocking the snot out of Cobb.
I don't see how Cobb could have come back from all that punishment if it was 20 or 50 rounds.
We'll never know, unfortunately, because it never happened. However, Cobb was quite the formidable man with tons of reserves. His conditioning is often underscored by people who focus mainly on his toughness. And despite his lack of any real serious power at heavyweight--- He did throw alot of punches in that ring, and personally I thought Cobb did enough to defeat Ken Norton in their fight.
If Cobb were to somehow win, it'd be after 25 rounds (I'd suspect) and Holmes would start tiring fast because of the pace and the workrate he put out for 15 rounds--- Cobb used to say, "I didn't lose the fight I just lost the first fifteen rounds. If the fight was 30 rounds Holmes would have fell over dead from exhaustion." I'll give Cobb the benefit of the doubt because this is, after all, a man who fought off and defeated an entire BASEBALL TEAM armed with ball bats--- and after years of NOT competing in kickboxing, had two awesome fights with "Big" John Jackson for the world's title (ie, lost the first & won the second).
I loved Cobb. Perhaps my favorite non champion fighter of all time, but I wouldn't say it's "unfortunate," we'll never know. Cobb got a degree in psychology from Temple and I think Holmes is doing alright as well. Not sure that would be the case if they fought for 50 rounds.