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Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 09 Oct 2018, 23:08
by Best Coast
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... wn-looming
Lineal heavyweight world champion Tyson Fury finally enrolled in the WBC's Clean Boxing Program on Monday.

Fury is due to challenge world titleholder Deontay Wilder for that sanctioning body's heavyweight world title belt Dec. 1 in the main event of a Showtime PPV card at Staples Center in Los Angeles. Although the deal for the fight was completed a couple of weeks ago and the fighters finished their three-city, two-country media tour last week, Fury had not yet enrolled.

The WBC mandates that the all of its titleholders and contenders participate in the random drug-testing program overseen by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association. If a fighter does not enroll, he is not eligible to fight for a WBC title or in a WBC-sanctioned bout.

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman told ESPN on Sunday that he was not aware that Fury had not yet enrolled in the program; he said he would get in touch with Fury and his team immediately, and that if Fury did not enroll, the fight would not be sanctioned by the WBC.

On Monday, Sulaiman announced that Fury had taken care of it.

"Tyson Fury has sent WBC Clean Boxing Program enrollment forms to VADA," he said.

Wilder co-manager Shelly Finkel confirmed to ESPN he had been notified that Fury's paperwork for the program was complete.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 00:09
by jamamb
wilder will knock the piss out of him and then they can test that

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 07:16
by greg
..I hope someone explained to him the difference between "in- and out of competition" drug testing. :OhYes:

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 09:07
by tiny_acres
jamamb wrote: 10 Oct 2018, 00:09 wilder will knock the piss out of him and then they can test that
:lol: that's my prediction

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 10 Oct 2018, 17:43
by ewenhay
He enrolled the day after he was asked to. Hardly merits the 'finally' in the thread title.

"You haven't enrolled yet, could you do it tomorrow please?"

"Yeah no problem"

"Thanks Tyson"

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 02:31
by Best Coast
ewenhay wrote: 10 Oct 2018, 17:43 He enrolled the day after he was asked to. Hardly merits the 'finally' in the thread title.

"You haven't enrolled yet, could you do it tomorrow please?"

"Yeah no problem"

"Thanks Tyson"
Actually the thread title was inspired by the first sentence in the ESPN article I quoted: "Lineal heavyweight world champion Tyson Fury finally enrolled in the WBC's Clean Boxing Program on Monday."]

Maybe the reason ESPN said "FINALLY" was because WBC President Mauricio Sulaiman had PREVIOUSLY ASKED Fury to enroll and Fury said he would but hadnt done it yet:
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/2 ... ng-program
Fury has not enrolled in the WBC's Clean Boxing Program, the random drug testing program overseen by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association that the sanctioning organization mandates that all of its titleholders and contenders participate in before they are eligible to fight in a bout sanctioned by the WBC.

As of Sunday, Fury, whom the WBC recently rated No. 3, was still not enrolled.

"To date, VADA has not received Clean Boxing Program enrollment forms on Mr. Fury," Dr. Margaret Goodman, the president of VADA, told ESPN. "Mr. Wilder remains enrolled in the Clean Boxing Program."

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said he was not aware that Fury had not enrolled in the program even though Fury should not have appeared in the WBC rankings until he had enrolled in the program.

"Fury must enroll," Sulaiman told ESPN on Sunday. "He personally committed to me to enroll. I will write to him right now. If he doesn't enroll the fight will not be sanctioned by the WBC."
Fury (27-0, 19 KOs) has a history with VADA. He failed two VADA tests for cocaine in the fall of 2016 as he was supposed to be preparing for a rematch with Wladimir Klitschko, whom he had upset by decision to win three world titles belts and the lineal championship in November 2015.

Fury admitted that he had been using drugs, drinking heavily and that he was also dealing with mental health issues. He was stripped of the titles and ultimately did not fight for 31 months until returning to the ring in June.
You would think someone with a well-documented history of drug abuse like Tyson Fury would do it ON HIS OWN without having to be asked TWICE.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 04:09
by TooMuch
Fury's gonna piss hot.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 12:49
by boxing_rocks
The whole point of CBP is year around testing. According to WBC rules, Fury couldn't be in their top 15 list, because he wasn't in the program, so they shouldn't have allowed him to participate in the title fight.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 13:24
by tiny_acres
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 12:49 The whole point of CBP is year around testing. According to WBC rules, Fury couldn't be in their top 15 list, because he wasn't in the program, so they shouldn't have allowed him to participate in the title fight.
But Fury was rated #3 by the WBC even though he was not enrolled

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 14:06
by Ruthless-RKO
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 13:24
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 12:49 The whole point of CBP is year around testing. According to WBC rules, Fury couldn't be in their top 15 list, because he wasn't in the program, so they shouldn't have allowed him to participate in the title fight.
But Fury was rated #3 by the WBC even though he was not enrolled
Yeh. You have to be enrolled full time to even be ranked.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 14:07
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:06
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 13:24
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 12:49 The whole point of CBP is year around testing. According to WBC rules, Fury couldn't be in their top 15 list, because he wasn't in the program, so they shouldn't have allowed him to participate in the title fight.
But Fury was rated #3 by the WBC even though he was not enrolled
Yeh. You have to be enrolled full time to even be ranked.
That's what makes no sense. How was he rated since the Sepheri fight when he wasn't enrolled?

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 14:24
by boxing_rocks
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:07
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:06
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 13:24

But Fury was rated #3 by the WBC even though he was not enrolled
Yeh. You have to be enrolled full time to even be ranked.
That's what makes no sense. How was he rated since the Sepheri fight when he wasn't enrolled?
Illustrates how well WBC is enforcing their rules.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 14:30
by tiny_acres
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:24
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:07
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:06

Yeh. You have to be enrolled full time to even be ranked.
That's what makes no sense. How was he rated since the Sepheri fight when he wasn't enrolled?
Illustrates how well WBC is enforcing their rules.
All of the alphabet groups suck. They pick and choose the rules that fit the day.
I hate them all

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 15:22
by boxing_rocks
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:30
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:24
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:07
That's what makes no sense. How was he rated since the Sepheri fight when he wasn't enrolled?
Illustrates how well WBC is enforcing their rules.
All of the alphabet groups suck. They pick and choose the rules that fit the day.
I hate them all
I would mostly exclude IBF from that statement.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 16:30
by Ruthless-RKO
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:30
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:24
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:07
That's what makes no sense. How was he rated since the Sepheri fight when he wasn't enrolled?
Illustrates how well WBC is enforcing their rules.
All of the alphabet groups suck. They pick and choose the rules that fit the day.
I hate them all
Money talks for all of them.

Thing with the BJS situation is the State didn’t let him fight. I guarantee the WBO are gutted. They were going to take a chunk of Saunders’ purse. Now instead they orobably take around $10k from Walter K.

Also as challenger, Andrade would have been on around $1 i’m guessing..

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 20:28
by Best Coast
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 13:24
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 12:49 The whole point of CBP is year around testing. According to WBC rules, Fury couldn't be in their top 15 list, because he wasn't in the program, so they shouldn't have allowed him to participate in the title fight.
But Fury was rated #3 by the WBC even though he was not enrolled
In the ESPN article I quoted above WBC Prez Sulaiman said Fury "personally committed" to Sulaiman that he WOULD enroll, so apparently Sulaiman took him at his word and ranked him even though Fury didnt make good on his "commitment to enroll."
WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said he was not aware that Fury had not enrolled in the program even though Fury should not have appeared in the WBC rankings until he had enrolled in the program.

"Fury must enroll," Sulaiman told ESPN on Sunday. "He personally committed to me to enroll. I will write to him right now. If he doesn't enroll the fight will not be sanctioned by the WBC."

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 20:34
by tiny_acres
Best Coast wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 20:28
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 13:24
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 12:49 The whole point of CBP is year around testing. According to WBC rules, Fury couldn't be in their top 15 list, because he wasn't in the program, so they shouldn't have allowed him to participate in the title fight.
But Fury was rated #3 by the WBC even though he was not enrolled
In the ESPN article I quoted above WBC Prez Sulaiman said Fury "personally committed" to Sulaiman that he WOULD enroll, so apparently Sulaiman took him at his word and ranked him even though Fury didnt make good on his "commitment to enroll."
WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said he was not aware that Fury had not enrolled in the program even though Fury should not have appeared in the WBC rankings until he had enrolled in the program.

"Fury must enroll," Sulaiman told ESPN on Sunday. "He personally committed to me to enroll. I will write to him right now. If he doesn't enroll the fight will not be sanctioned by the WBC."
Obviously he took him at his word. But I still do not agree with it. The rules are plain and simple on this one. :TU:
But like always money talks and this will be the biggest fight excluding Joshua vs Wilder that the WBC can rape for revenue

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 22:17
by Best Coast
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 20:34
Best Coast wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 20:28
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 13:24

But Fury was rated #3 by the WBC even though he was not enrolled
In the ESPN article I quoted above WBC Prez Sulaiman said Fury "personally committed" to Sulaiman that he WOULD enroll, so apparently Sulaiman took him at his word and ranked him even though Fury didnt make good on his "commitment to enroll."
WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said he was not aware that Fury had not enrolled in the program even though Fury should not have appeared in the WBC rankings until he had enrolled in the program.

"Fury must enroll," Sulaiman told ESPN on Sunday. "He personally committed to me to enroll. I will write to him right now. If he doesn't enroll the fight will not be sanctioned by the WBC."
Obviously he took him at his word. But I still do not agree with it. The rules are plain and simple on this one. :TU:
But like always money talks and this will be the biggest fight excluding Joshua vs Wilder that the WBC can rape for revenue
Not a wise move by Mauricio Sulaiman taking Fury at his word. But at least Mauricio doesnt seem quite as shady as his daddy Jose Sulaiman was when he ran the WBC.

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 11 Oct 2018, 22:19
by tiny_acres
Best Coast wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 22:17
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 20:34
Best Coast wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 20:28
In the ESPN article I quoted above WBC Prez Sulaiman said Fury "personally committed" to Sulaiman that he WOULD enroll, so apparently Sulaiman took him at his word and ranked him even though Fury didnt make good on his "commitment to enroll."

Obviously he took him at his word. But I still do not agree with it. The rules are plain and simple on this one. :TU:
But like always money talks and this will be the biggest fight excluding Joshua vs Wilder that the WBC can rape for revenue
Not a wise move by Mauricio Sulaiman taking Fury at his word. But at least Mauricio doesnt seem quite as shady as his daddy Jose Sulaiman was when he ran the WBC.
I hope he's not as shady. Time will tell

Re: Tyson Fury Finally Enrolls in WBC Clean Boxing Program

Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 16:27
by ewenhay
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:30
boxing_rocks wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:24
tiny_acres wrote: 11 Oct 2018, 14:07
That's what makes no sense. How was he rated since the Sepheri fight when he wasn't enrolled?
Illustrates how well WBC is enforcing their rules.
All of the alphabet groups suck. They pick and choose the rules that fit the day.
I hate them all
Is the correct answer