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On a personal note , , i'm like most i listen to Saunders , and think what a pratt, I look at his carry ons with the pull your trousers down ,i'm a copper bit , smack the passer by and i'll give you drugs , shite , along with his brats of kids with him encouraging them ,all along with his other rubbish , and i think this guy is a total tool .

Then i see this over the nasal spray and think hang on , he might be a pratt , but he is entitled to earn a living , this is rubbish he broke no lrules , ok he signed for vada , and really like said, should of adhered to the state rules , bla bla bla , but i'm thinking you can't blame him , he's not the brightest bulb in the house , so he's entitled to the benefit of the doubt , it was a small infraction of the rules , let the fight go on .

Then i listen to what this Victor guy says , i myself know bugger all about this sort of thing , but raise my eybrows and think , piss off mate with your sour grapes your boy Monroe got beat live with it ..

Then i google this nasal spray and whats in it , and bugger me is'nt the substance found a known weight loss and very well known weight loss stimulant , , I then think Mmmm well when you look at it , he's gone from a podgy out of shape lazy boxers to trimmed down and in shape , fighter , alls after he joins a new gym , who lets say rumors are about for a long time , then i think , coincidence maybee maybee not .

Then i think this guy is a profesional , with profesional people around him and SHOULD know better .

Then i smile to myself and think , KARMA IS A BITCH , so now to round my day off , besides the 100 grand fine , i would like to see the guy in the car get the video , join the guy in the street , and get his video , go see a top lawyer , and sue the pants of Saunders , Then see ii he finds that funny .

Maybee i think to much , probably bored , but there is little support for Mr Saunders

Shhhh wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:45 I think they pick on him. No one had a 100 grand fine before. Prob becos he’s a traveller

You remind me of the Lenny Henry line about being turned down to dance when at a disco as a kid, he said: "Is it because I am black?" and she said: "No, its because you are an ugly b*astard."

I think he has been a fool with his so called pranks. But he has been a bigger idiot. I don't buy the excuse that because it is allowed by UKAD & WADA before the fight that he's done nothing wrong.

If I went to a country where it was illegal to drive whilst on a phone, I wouldn't say yes but it's legal in another country that I go to.

His team are a professional team, they should have known the VADA rules and what constitutes a violation. They didn't, they took something that is clearly a stimulant and got caught.

I find it amazing on social media how many are claiming this is Eddie pulling the strings of it all.

Shhhh wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:45 I think they pick on him. No one had a 100 grand fine before. Prob becos he’s a traveller

The bully getting bullied? Maybe

How long before people look at the coaches in the gym as well as the fighters in a bit more depth?

samwbr wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 14:28 How long before people look at the coaches in the gym as well as the fighters in a bit more depth?

Has i said ......... he's gone from a podgy out of shape lazy boxers to trimmed down and in shape , fighter , alls after he joins a new gym , who lets say rumors are about for a long time , then i think , coincidence maybee maybee not .

He signed with VADA failed a test, end of

Boxers need to start being accountable for whatever they put in their system, its not VADAs fault the rest of these doping agencies are a shambles

He has been well stitched up, made his bed, but well stitched up.

Eddies laughing all th way to the bank, his fighter will be gifted the title without the need to put his hand in his pocket

ya, maybe next time instead of screaming 'bbbofc and ukad say this!!". maybe he and his team should actually realise that they signed up for a testing protocol where the substance is prohibited in and out of compeition. and also that the fight wasnt happening in uk

just poor stuff from him and them if they really thought it was no issue at all

tobyh5 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:50

Shhhh wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:45 I think they pick on him. No one had a 100 grand fine before. Prob becos he’s a traveller

You remind me of the Lenny Henry line about being turned down to dance when at a disco as a kid, he said: "Is it because I am black?" and she said: "No, its because you are an ugly b*astard."

handsofstone wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 15:46 He signed with VADA failed a test, end of

Boxers need to start being accountable for whatever they put in their system, its not VADAs fault the rest of these doping agencies are a shambles

Exactly that. If he hadn't have signed up for VADA testing, I'm guessing he'd be fine. However he didn't, and now he's fooked. It's a shame as it was a fight I was really intrigued by.

It’s hard to feel any sympathy with BJS.

Lots of Sportsman have claimed the “nasal decongestant “ reason for failing a test - anyone who has signed up to that regime wouldn’t or shouldn’t grab a Vicks and say they’ve failed a test on that basis - they should have a team dictating everything that goes into their body.

I posted ages ago he was a blatant cheat and I had several posters telling that me that he had just knuckled down in the gym and that I was out of line. I just went silent on it and waited. I can't believe how many people are swallowing the pathetic "nasal spray" line. Of course it's not a nasal spray! "Oh they only pick on gypsies! It's racist!" I don't think VADA and the USA (where the problems all stem from) even really know what an English gypsy is. I'd imagine genuine racists have more than enough to be going on with with the muslims, the Eastern Europeans, the blacks, the Pakistanis, the Mexicans, the Irish, and all other historically maligned groups.

If there is some sort of clandestine conspiracy going on against him it would be that he's an unpleasant person that has repeatedly brought the sport into disrepute, and not in a fun "sell the fight to the casuals" sort of way (like Haye and Chisora, who were both punished as well) but in an embarrassing, weaselly unfunny, nasty little low rent way that he not only thought was funny, but voluntarily posted up on line for everybody to see. Most of those videos have been around ages, too. There's the one where he rang some bloke to tell him he'd fucked his wife (with the bloke's name and phone number clearly in the video), the one where he is painfully unfunny picking on some normal bloke for wearing a Batman T-shirt... It's not because he's a gypsy it's because he's a pudendum and it's high time he got picked up on these things.

Mayweather, Canelo, Broner and the like get away with being scumbags because they bring money to the table: Billy Joe doesn't bring all that much and certainly not in the way of sanctioning fees, so you can also see why the WBO were happy to strip him. It's about money after all. Nothing else really matters in boxing other than that.

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 10:41 I posted ages ago he was a blatant cheat and I had several posters telling that me that he had just knuckled down in the gym and that I was out of line. I just went silent on it and waited. I can't believe how many people are swallowing the pathetic "nasal spray" line. Of course it's not a nasal spray! "Oh they only pick on gypsies! It's racist!" I don't think VADA and the USA (where the problems all stem from) even really know what an English gypsy is. I'd imagine genuine racists have more than enough to be going on with with the muslims, the Eastern Europeans, the blacks, the Pakistanis, the Mexicans, the Irish, and all other historically maligned groups.

If there is some sort of clandestine conspiracy going on against him it would be that he's an unpleasant person that has repeatedly brought the sport into disrepute, and not in a fun "sell the fight to the casuals" sort of way (like Haye and Chisora, who were both punished as well) but in an embarrassing, weaselly unfunny, nasty little low rent way that he not only thought was funny, but voluntarily posted up on line for everybody to see. Most of those videos have been around ages, too. There's the one where he rang some bloke to tell him he'd fucked his wife (with the bloke's name and phone number clearly in the video), the one where he is painfully unfunny picking on some normal bloke for wearing a Batman T-shirt... It's not because he's a gypsy it's because he's a pudendum and it's high time he got picked up on these things.

Mayweather, Canelo, Broner and the like get away with being scumbags because they bring money to the table: Billy Joe doesn't bring all that much and certainly not in the way of sanctioning fees, so you can also see why the WBO were happy to strip him. It's about money after all. Nothing else really matters in boxing other than that.

I hadn't heard about his other escapades,i didn't like him before and i like him even less now,he's a vile,extremely unpopular bully who for all his skills can't fill a phone box with fans,i hope we never see or hear from him again.

Abosoulty gutted they cancelled this fight. There wrong hope warren sues. the b...lls of em.this to me was fight of the year

jamamb wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 15:51 ya, maybe next time instead of screaming 'bbbofc and ukad say this!!". maybe he and his team should actually realise that they signed up for a testing protocol where the substance is prohibited in and out of compeition. and also that the fight wasnt happening in uk

just poor stuff from him and them if they really thought it was no issue at all

This sums it up for me. From a purely boxing POV, it's a shame, because he's clearly very competent at passing his tests in the ring.

bigjack wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 11:43

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 10:41 I posted ages ago he was a blatant cheat and I had several posters telling that me that he had just knuckled down in the gym and that I was out of line. I just went silent on it and waited. I can't believe how many people are swallowing the pathetic "nasal spray" line. Of course it's not a nasal spray! "Oh they only pick on gypsies! It's racist!" I don't think VADA and the USA (where the problems all stem from) even really know what an English gypsy is. I'd imagine genuine racists have more than enough to be going on with with the muslims, the Eastern Europeans, the blacks, the Pakistanis, the Mexicans, the Irish, and all other historically maligned groups.

If there is some sort of clandestine conspiracy going on against him it would be that he's an unpleasant person that has repeatedly brought the sport into disrepute, and not in a fun "sell the fight to the casuals" sort of way (like Haye and Chisora, who were both punished as well) but in an embarrassing, weaselly unfunny, nasty little low rent way that he not only thought was funny, but voluntarily posted up on line for everybody to see. Most of those videos have been around ages, too. There's the one where he rang some bloke to tell him he'd fucked his wife (with the bloke's name and phone number clearly in the video), the one where he is painfully unfunny picking on some normal bloke for wearing a Batman T-shirt... It's not because he's a gypsy it's because he's a pudendum and it's high time he got picked up on these things.

Mayweather, Canelo, Broner and the like get away with being scumbags because they bring money to the table: Billy Joe doesn't bring all that much and certainly not in the way of sanctioning fees, so you can also see why the WBO were happy to strip him. It's about money after all. Nothing else really matters in boxing other than that.

I hadn't heard about his other escapades,i didn't like him before and i like him even less now,he's a vile,extremely unpopular bully who for all his skills can't fill a phone box with fans,i hope we never see or hear from him again.

I agree with you both.

It will be interesting to see what happens next - without a belt he is a hard sell.

bripez wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 13:17

bigjack wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 11:43

clopixolacuphase wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 10:41 I posted ages ago he was a blatant cheat and I had several posters telling that me that he had just knuckled down in the gym and that I was out of line. I just went silent on it and waited. I can't believe how many people are swallowing the pathetic "nasal spray" line. Of course it's not a nasal spray! "Oh they only pick on gypsies! It's racist!" I don't think VADA and the USA (where the problems all stem from) even really know what an English gypsy is. I'd imagine genuine racists have more than enough to be going on with with the muslims, the Eastern Europeans, the blacks, the Pakistanis, the Mexicans, the Irish, and all other historically maligned groups.

If there is some sort of clandestine conspiracy going on against him it would be that he's an unpleasant person that has repeatedly brought the sport into disrepute, and not in a fun "sell the fight to the casuals" sort of way (like Haye and Chisora, who were both punished as well) but in an embarrassing, weaselly unfunny, nasty little low rent way that he not only thought was funny, but voluntarily posted up on line for everybody to see. Most of those videos have been around ages, too. There's the one where he rang some bloke to tell him he'd fucked his wife (with the bloke's name and phone number clearly in the video), the one where he is painfully unfunny picking on some normal bloke for wearing a Batman T-shirt... It's not because he's a gypsy it's because he's a pudendum and it's high time he got picked up on these things.

Mayweather, Canelo, Broner and the like get away with being scumbags because they bring money to the table: Billy Joe doesn't bring all that much and certainly not in the way of sanctioning fees, so you can also see why the WBO were happy to strip him. It's about money after all. Nothing else really matters in boxing other than that.

I hadn't heard about his other escapades,i didn't like him before and i like him even less now,he's a vile,extremely unpopular bully who for all his skills can't fill a phone box with fans,i hope we never see or hear from him again.

I agree with you both.

It will be interesting to see what happens next - without a belt he is a hard sell.

I can't see Bully Joe Saunders getting many big fights now to be honest, he's too good, no title and isn't a big seller, who needs him.

I wonder if Eubank Jr. would still be up for a return now that the world title belt's gone. Must be worth a few quid to both as a last resort/ foot back on the rungs..

sparrow_1 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 15:02 I wonder if Eubank Jr. would still be up for a return now that the world title belt's gone. Must be worth a few quid to both as a last resort/ foot back on the rungs..

Fairly easy payday for Bill, especially as he'll be allowed to use his "nasal spray" in this country.

I love how Billy fans are now quoting and using UKAD's stance on this, the same organisation they all said was an utter joke just a few months ago over the Fury saga. Pretty sure a fair few also said we should be using WADA and VADA instead of UKAD which should be disbanded.

coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2018, 13:10 On a personal note , , i'm like most i listen to Saunders , and think what a pratt, I look at his carry ons with the pull your trousers down ,i'm a copper bit , smack the passer by and i'll give you drugs , shite , along with his brats of kids with him encouraging them ,all along with his other rubbish , and i think this guy is a total tool .

Then i see this over the nasal spray and think hang on , he might be a pratt , but he is entitled to earn a living , this is rubbish he broke no lrules , ok he signed for vada , and really like said, should of adhered to the state rules , bla bla bla , but i'm thinking you can't blame him , he's not the brightest bulb in the house , so he's entitled to the benefit of the doubt , it was a small infraction of the rules , let the fight go on .

Then i listen to what this Victor guy says , i myself know bugger all about this sort of thing , but raise my eybrows and think , piss off mate with your sour grapes your boy Monroe got beat live with it ..

Then i google this nasal spray and whats in it , and bugger me is'nt the substance found a known weight loss and very well known weight loss stimulant , , I then think Mmmm well when you look at it , he's gone from a podgy out of shape lazy boxers to trimmed down and in shape , fighter , alls after he joins a new gym , who lets say rumors are about for a long time , then i think , coincidence maybee maybee not .

Then i think this guy is a profesional , with profesional people around him and SHOULD know better .

Then i smile to myself and think , KARMA IS A BITCH , so now to round my day off , besides the 100 grand fine , i would like to see the guy in the car get the video , join the guy in the street , and get his video , go see a top lawyer , and sue the pants of Saunders , Then see ii he finds that funny .

Maybee i think to much , probably bored , but there is little support for Mr Saunders

Karma to the tw@t hope the two guys sue the pants off him like you say,but he is a gypo so how ya gonna find him? He would just hitch his caravan up and drive to a new location. I cant stand him cheatin mofo

Truth be told is hard to feel sorry for him.

He’s simply not good enough to overlook how big of a wanker he is. He’s talented and a good boxer no doubt but the sport will hardly miss him. If he was something really special you might tolerate it but he isn’t. Even with his escapades and attempts at becoming a name, nobody watches him.

Just a bit of scumbag. Won’t be missed when he hangs them up

tobyh5 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2018, 16:39 I love how Billy fans are now quoting and using UKAD's stance on this, the same organisation they all said was an utter joke just a few months ago over the Fury saga. Pretty sure a fair few also said we should be using WADA and VADA instead of UKAD which should be disbanded.

If I was in this situation, I would be producing some sort of medical proof of the cold/flu/sniffles, and a receipt for the nasal spray from boots. I would be stressing how I have cocked up, and tripped myself up, and I'd be saying "here, look - I went to the docs on such a date, and straight afterwards i popped into boots, and bought this stuff". In a situation like this there is no conclusive proof to show if he was on PEDs or taking an inhaler, so its a case of doing your best to argue your case.

Plenty of experts are popping up saying this stuff is very powerful and would have helped him shed weight, and lots of onlookers are observing his physical improvements since moving to the ingle gym. In other words there is a lot of content and opinion online blowing in the direction of PED use, and almost nothing much blowing back the other way. Rather than telling the commission to "suck my xxxx" and having my promoter start suing, I would be thinking about the other battle - the one for public opinion and media opinion.

I have to wonder what BJS and Fwank would have said had the roles been reversed, and Andrade was the one failing the test and ruining the fight. Am not sure they would be so understanding.

If I were BJS, if there weren't a doctors record or a boots receipt, I've have Kugan interviewing me outside the doctors, or outside boots, or whatever, explaining myself clearly, that I have fxxked up by taking a nasal spray. I'd have family and friends chipping in saying yes he was really run down etc. I'd even poke fun at myself for being so dumb, and would be apologising to Andrade, Hearn and DAZN.

I don't know what really went on behind the scenes and led to the failed test but based on what I see and hear, as much as I like BJS, if I had to pick I think I'd go with the PED scenario. If you can film yourself tapping up a hooker by offering her coke to slap a stranger, and actually post that video online, frankly you have the capacity for anything.