What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 16:18
I’m thinking Crawford?
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Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 16:22
Pac man by far
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 16:24
Couldn’t disagree.. completely over looked him. Good arrows
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 12 Oct 2018, 16:59
you mean overall how good the resume is, or who has the best single win or two
because crawford has good depth and clearly a p4p record overall, but imo no real standout win
to me , guys like canelo, sor rungvisi, frampton, nery, loma, fury, hurd, maybe thurman and spence, and some others like possibly jhonny gonzalez (mares destruction) have better 'best' wins. and of course pac obviously is head and shoulders above pretty much everyone else on both overall resume and top best wins
i think also, usyk schooling gassiev is right up there with anything crawfords done.
because crawford has good depth and clearly a p4p record overall, but imo no real standout win
to me , guys like canelo, sor rungvisi, frampton, nery, loma, fury, hurd, maybe thurman and spence, and some others like possibly jhonny gonzalez (mares destruction) have better 'best' wins. and of course pac obviously is head and shoulders above pretty much everyone else on both overall resume and top best wins
i think also, usyk schooling gassiev is right up there with anything crawfords done.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 10:32
i want to revisit this topic
what would we say the top wins out there are achieved by active fighters. within the last few years lets say
so not ranking fighters, but specific wins.
eg
1. canelo over ggg
2. sor over roman
3. khan over lo greco
what would we say the top wins out there are achieved by active fighters. within the last few years lets say
so not ranking fighters, but specific wins.
eg
1. canelo over ggg
2. sor over roman
3. khan over lo greco
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 12:07
Joshua, definitely.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 31 Oct 2018, 12:28
Obviously PAC. Mares, Santa Cruz, Roman, etc.. behind him. Wang and Santa Cruz probably for still prime guys.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 01 Nov 2018, 06:12
Usyk's route to clearing out 200 is much better than Crawford's route to clearing out 140, imo. The best wins on Crawford's record were a bit lower down, where he enjoyed a nice size advantage.
That's not to take anything away from Crawford. He's clearly near the top of the p4p list. I just think his best performances are still to come.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 01 Nov 2018, 06:24
Joshua clearing out the deadwood of the division a bit like Tyson did in the 80sastradamus wrote: ↑31 Oct 2018, 11:32 I think AJ, AJ has done all the dirty and risky work Wilder and Fury should have done ages ago but never dared to.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 01 Nov 2018, 06:56
Fury fought Wlad first, and went to Germany. Now he's fighting Wilder in America.astradamus wrote: ↑31 Oct 2018, 11:32 I think AJ, AJ has done all the dirty and risky work Wilder and Fury should have done ages ago but never dared to.
Granted, he 'retired' and went on a coke binge for 3 years in between, but you can't honestly claim Joshua did what Fury never dared to.
Joshua has the better record overall, obviously, but he never fought the dominant reigning champ version of Wlad, and the rest of his wins are just not much more than taking out the trash. Povetkin was a decent scalp, but he's really an old man who should have had a L to a cruiserweight years ago, and lost far more one-sided to Wlad while fresher himself. The fact Pov is probably 3rd in the division just highlights how weak heavyweight really is.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 01 Nov 2018, 09:53
If you go to www.premierboxingorganisation.com and go through the rankings...the low numbers in the last 20 fights column denote the opposition quality. Lomachenko has three number 1s on his resume. Not many fighters ever beat TEN top 10 fighters. Floyd Mayweather had the best ever.
Currently it's Manny Pacqaio is #1 by a country mile.
You need to be toward the end of your career of course.
Currently it's Manny Pacqaio is #1 by a country mile.
You need to be toward the end of your career of course.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 01 Nov 2018, 15:31
Roman Gonzalez. Just look at his resume. Just about everyone that he's beaten has aged well.
Only one above him is Pacquiao unless I'm forgetting someone else.
Only one above him is Pacquiao unless I'm forgetting someone else.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 01 Nov 2018, 15:32
Not at all sure about that since he struggled with a cripple who clearly lost to Mauricio Herrera prior.Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 06:12Usyk's route to clearing out 200 is much better than Crawford's route to clearing out 140, imo. The best wins on Crawford's record were a bit lower down, where he enjoyed a nice size advantage.
That's not to take anything away from Crawford. He's clearly near the top of the p4p list. I just think his best performances are still to come.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 01 Nov 2018, 18:25
Not sure I'd say he struggled just because it went to the 12th... I saw him win about every round (dominating most), before finishing the job properly.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 15:32Not at all sure about that since he struggled with a cripple who clearly lost to Mauricio Herrera prior.Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 06:12Usyk's route to clearing out 200 is much better than Crawford's route to clearing out 140, imo. The best wins on Crawford's record were a bit lower down, where he enjoyed a nice size advantage.
That's not to take anything away from Crawford. He's clearly near the top of the p4p list. I just think his best performances are still to come.
Also, putting the Herrera fight in context, that was the same year Herrera gave Danny Garcia a lesson, only to get robbed. That Benavidez performance was no worse than Danny's, against the same opponent.
Garcia fights pretty much on even terms with most of the top welters. Even in losing, he makes it competitive right to the end. Watching those fights, you'd easily assume Crawford would dominate Danny, if they ever fight. How many welterweights would you have as an overwhelming favourite against DSG? Maybe Spence, that's it.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 17:35
No, I had Porter a big favorite over Garcia and it was justified as Garcia lost clearly. I also had Thurman an overwhelming favorite. Garcia is a mid-elite guy. He's more in the mold of Sullivan Barrera than anything.Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 18:25Not sure I'd say he struggled just because it went to the 12th... I saw him win about every round (dominating most), before finishing the job properly.Mexi-Box wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 15:32Not at all sure about that since he struggled with a cripple who clearly lost to Mauricio Herrera prior.Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 06:12
Usyk's route to clearing out 200 is much better than Crawford's route to clearing out 140, imo. The best wins on Crawford's record were a bit lower down, where he enjoyed a nice size advantage.
That's not to take anything away from Crawford. He's clearly near the top of the p4p list. I just think his best performances are still to come.
Also, putting the Herrera fight in context, that was the same year Herrera gave Danny Garcia a lesson, only to get robbed. That Benavidez performance was no worse than Danny's, against the same opponent.
Garcia fights pretty much on even terms with most of the top welters. Even in losing, he makes it competitive right to the end. Watching those fights, you'd easily assume Crawford would dominate Danny, if they ever fight. How many welterweights would you have as an overwhelming favourite against DSG? Maybe Spence, that's it.
By the way, the version Herrera beat was a better version of Benavidez since he wasn't a cripple.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 17:57
Heavy- AJ
Cruiser- Uysk
Light Heavy- Stevenson
Super Middle- ? (Smith/Rameriez)
Middle- Alverez
Super Welter- Lara
Welter- Pac
Super Lightweight- ?
Lightweight- Burns/Linares
Super Feather- Roman
Feather- Frampton
P4P best wins probably Roman
Cruiser- Uysk
Light Heavy- Stevenson
Super Middle- ? (Smith/Rameriez)
Middle- Alverez
Super Welter- Lara
Welter- Pac
Super Lightweight- ?
Lightweight- Burns/Linares
Super Feather- Roman
Feather- Frampton
P4P best wins probably Roman
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 19:24
Miguel Roman or Roman Martinez?
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 19:42
Miguel. 60 & 2. Some good wins, a lot of meh ones, but overall a lot of wins. I kind of put Pac in the retirement basket. He may box again, but I wish he wouldn't.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 20:20
Sorry I started to read this thread then a few posts in read "specific wins e.g. Khan over Lo Greco"............wtf?
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 23:08
Great points amigo. To put AJ atop the list when he has yet to face Fury or Wilder is obviously the thinking of an Anthony Joshua homer.Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑01 Nov 2018, 06:56Fury fought Wlad first, and went to Germany. Now he's fighting Wilder in America.astradamus wrote: ↑31 Oct 2018, 11:32 I think AJ, AJ has done all the dirty and risky work Wilder and Fury should have done ages ago but never dared to.
Granted, he 'retired' and went on a coke binge for 3 years in between, but you can't honestly claim Joshua did what Fury never dared to.
Joshua has the better record overall, obviously, but he never fought the dominant reigning champ version of Wlad, and the rest of his wins are just not much more than taking out the trash. Povetkin was a decent scalp, but he's really an old man who should have had a L to a cruiserweight years ago, and lost far more one-sided to Wlad while fresher himself. The fact Pov is probably 3rd in the division just highlights how weak heavyweight really is.
Re: What active fighter has beaten best names on his Resume ??
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 00:53
Wangek over Gonzalez
Santa Cruz over Frampton
Alvarez over Golovkin
Fury over Wladimir
Ward over Kovalev
Salido over Lomachenko
Joshua over Wladimir