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Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 30 Oct 2018, 17:23
by BitPlayer

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 04:16
by HomicideHenry
The same Dan Creedon that Fitzsimmons brutalized?

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 11:15
by BitPlayer
HomicideHenry wrote: 03 Nov 2018, 04:16 The same Dan Creedon that Fitzsimmons brutalized?
Yes

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 11:27
by FrankinDallas
Was Corbett wearing his tight little leather thong when Dan sparred with him? Probably distracted poor Dan.

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 16:44
by Ambling Alp II
That was an interesting read! Thanks for posting this! :TU:
Thanks to prewar for mentioning this on another thread.
Interesting comment about Corbett having some power but rarely using it because of his hands.
Would be interesting to learn more about Creedon.

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 18:07
by prewarboxing
Its going to be quite hard digging stuff up on Creedon, He came from down under, which is not really my speciality, but I quickly found this report in Mirror of Life for his 1902 contest with Bill Doherty.

I will possibly have an image of him somewhere

Miles Templeton

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Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 18:12
by HomicideHenry
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/136621096

^Memories of Dan Creedon (article)

From what I've read he was quite talented. Like Fitzsimmons he was taught by Jem Mace & Larry Foley and became the champion of Australia (middleweight) and challenged Fitzsimmons unsuccessfully for the world title--- but he'd later become a claimant to the world title until losing that claim to Kid McCoy (76" reach), the same McCoy who lost to Jim Corbett but defeated other heavyweights of note.

Creedon was no pushover as he had success beyond 160, having competitive wins/losses/draws with men like the original Joe Walcott & Joe Choynski. He was just a little on the short side (5'8" w/ 69" reach) I think to be competitive with guys like Marvin Hart (5'11.5" w/ 74" reach) and Jack Root (5'10" w/ 73" reach) who were harder punchers.

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 18:19
by prewarboxing
The background to his 1895 contest with Frank Craig "The Coffee Cooler"

Miles Templeton

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Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 22:13
by BitPlayer
prewarboxing wrote: 14 Nov 2018, 18:07 Its going to be quite hard digging stuff up on Creedon, He came from down under, which is not really my speciality, but I quickly found this report in Mirror of Life for his 1902 contest with Bill Doherty.

I will possibly have an image of him somewhere

Miles Templeton

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He wrote a few articles if you're interested.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189132538
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189133454
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189131460
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189134141
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189134886

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 22:15
by BitPlayer
Starlight also wrote some articles including this one on Creedon
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/190314886

Another article on him fighting Fitz
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/135651821

Stories of him in England
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243036754

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 22:17
by BitPlayer

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 22:20
by BitPlayer

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 14 Nov 2018, 22:52
by BitPlayer
It's always nice to see some interest, I'll try and dig up some more on him at some point. I'm typing this fairly quick, so there may be a few typos.

Edinburgh Evening News - Tuesday 28 January 1896
GLOVE FIGHT FOR £400
An important glove fight was decided at the National Sporting Club, London, last night. The competitors were Jem Smith, of London, and Dean Creedon, of Australia, who had signed articles to box the best of twenty rounds at catch weights for a purse of £400, of which the winner took £300 and the loser £100. Smith trained at Brighton, and was reported as weighing 13st. The Australian came to England from America in the early part of September. Born in New Zealand on June 12th, 1863, Creedon is a remarkably well-built man, standing the same height as Smith, but sealing in condition about 11st 4Ib. Creedon's record of something like seventy battles includes but one defeat from Fitzsimmons. Creedon visited England for the purpose of fighting Frank Craig, the black, and when the two met at the National Sporting Club on the 14th of last October, Creedon gained the award on points at the end of the twentieth round. For his match with Smith he trained at Wheathampstead. There was a very large attendance. At first Creedon's friends took even money about his chance, but presently they asked for and got 5 to 4 to their money. There were one or two minor events set for decision previous to the international battle, and it was half-past ten before the chief actors made their appearance on the scene. Smith looked too stout to do himself justice, but Creedon was in the pink of condition.

A BRIEF BUT DECISIVE BATTLE.
This fight was brief but decisive. Although as tall as Smith, Creedon crouched so very low that he appeared much the shorter of the two. As is the case with most Australian boxers, Creedon is veryshifty on his feet, and dancing all round the ring, he takes a lot of catching. At the call of time, Creedon took the initiative, and getting in one or two swinging lefts on the mouth, he soon caused his rival to lose his temper. Smith was somewhat nonplussed at the treatment he was receiving. He lashed out furiosly, and made several attempts to reach the body with the left glove. Each time he did so, however, Creedon stepped back and avoided punishment. These continuel efforts made Smith puff and blow freely: and it was quite evident, even at this stage, that he was short of wind. About half-way through the round, Smith began to look weary; and Creedon, seeing this, went at him, and drove him across the ring with some stinging left handed blows on the face and mouth. The round ended greatly in the Australian's favour. Smith realised that his sole chance of winning was to beat Creedon quickly; and with this intention he began to force the work at a very warm pace when they faced each other for the second time, although he was giving so much weight away. However, Creedon stood up and fought his opponent like a game fellow, and, to the surprise of most of the onlookers, he more than held his own in the heavy work which took place. Although he made little use of his right hand. Smith got in some heavy punches on the body, but Creedon would not give way, and let out at the other man freely with the left. Smith, finding that he could make no impression on his rival, lost his head completely, and he rushed wildly at the Australian. As he did so Creedon ducked; and then at the same moment shooting out his left, he caught Smith a tremendous punch on the mouth, which knocked him right off his feet. Before anybody could quite realise what had happened, Smith was lying on his back in a helpless position. He remained down until after the ten seconds had been countedd off; and thus, after four minutes and twenty seconds' actual fighting, Creedon was proclaimed the winner. Mr B. J. Angle was referee.
Subsequently the ex middleweight champion of England, Ted Pritchard, issued a challenge to box Creedon and as the latter has accepted it a match will probably be arranged between them.

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 07:39
by BitPlayer
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn ... oy+creedon

Creedon vs Mid McCoy The sun., December 18, 1897, Image 1 (right side)

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 15 Nov 2018, 13:18
by BitPlayer
Dan Creedon Vs Alex Greggains

San Francisco Call, Volume 74, Number 76, 15 August 1893
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d ... ns-------1

Los Angeles Herald, Volume 40, Number 126, 15 August 1893
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d ... ns-------1

Re: Middleweight Champion Dan Creedon on Sparring James J Corbett

Posted: 16 Nov 2018, 18:20
by BitPlayer
Creedon Vs Dick Moore I
St. Paul daily globe., February 28, 1894, Page 5, Image 5
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn ... edon+moore


Creedon Vs Dick Moore II
St. Paul daily globe., April 28, 1894, Page 5, Image 5
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn ... edon+moore