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GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 12:06
by apollo creed
“We’ll fight in the first quarter of next year,” Sanchez said to Behind The Gloves. “The kid [Rob Brant] that just beat [Ryota] Murata. He’s got a title, and then at the end of next year, Tom [Loeffler] and Golden Boy can get together and then maybe they can do it a year later. Gennady has some fights out there. There’s four titles, but they [Canelo and Gennady] need each other for the public. The public is going to demand that kind of fight. We’ll see how Canelo does with the [Rocky] Fielding fight. If he does limited numbers, then it’s going to show you that he’s not the box office that they think he is,” Sanchez. from boxing news 24
That would be a good exciting fight for GGG. Brant is coming to fight and he has a busy style.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 12:26
by Enlightened-One
This wouldn't be a good fight. Tom Loeffler is doing the same as Oscar De La Hoya. Both promoters have simply sought out the easiest available opposition that possesses a world title (of sorts).
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 12:30
by apollo creed
I just want to say that based on facts that Brant is a more worthy opponent for GGG than Andrade and Jermall Charlo. Brant has a good win against Murata at mw. But if Charlo and Andrade would fight each other then we would have a new player in the mw division.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 12:42
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 12:30
I just want to say that based on facts that Brant is a more worthy opponent for GGG than Andrade and Jermall Charlo. Brant has a good win against Murata at mw. But if Charlo and Andrade would fight each other then we would have a new player in the mw division.
So you’re suggesting that it’s better for GGG to challenge for a meaningless WBA secondary title against a fighter that got dominated by the less-than-stellar talents of Juergen Braehmer, instead of challenging for a genuine version of a world championship held by young hungry lions like Daniel Jacobs and the undefeated Demetrius Andrade?
I’d prefer to see Golovkin faces the likes of Canelo Alvarez, Callum Smith, Danny Jacobs, Demetrius Andrade, Jermall Charlo, Billy Joe Saunders and Sergiy Derevyanchenko, instead of the relatively unheralded Rob Brant, but perhaps I’m in the minority?
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 13:56
by Deleted_Scenes
Andrade and Charlo are still unproven at middleweight, but Andrade holds a legitimate version of the title, and Charlo did put together a solid body of work at 154.
I'd rather see GGG face one of those, giving him with the WBO belt, or a mandatory position for the WBC, rather than go for a 'regular' title, even though I agree Brant has the best win at 160 out of those three names.
A Jacobs rematch would be best though, or even the hinted at Callum Smith bout at 168 - although I fear that one is a bad matchup for GGG, with Smith's size and seeing the way he dismantled Groves. I don't see anybody below 175 beating Smith at the moment.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 15:11
by apollo creed
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 12:42
apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 12:30
I just want to say that based on facts that Brant is a more worthy opponent for GGG than Andrade and Jermall Charlo. Brant has a good win against Murata at mw. But if Charlo and Andrade would fight each other then we would have a new player in the mw division.
So you’re suggesting that it’s better for GGG to challenge for a meaningless WBA secondary title against a fighter that got dominated by the less-than-stellar talents of Juergen Braehmer, instead of challenging for a genuine version of a world championship held by young hungry lions like Daniel Jacobs and the undefeated Demetrius Andrade?
I’d prefer to see Golovkin faces the likes of Canelo Alvarez, Callum Smith, Danny Jacobs, Demetrius Andrade, Jermall Charlo, Billy Joe Saunders and Sergiy Derevyanchenko, instead of the relatively unheralded Rob Brant, but perhaps I’m in the minority?
GGG paid his dues. Don't worry. He's gonna fight top 160 pounders next year. The real question is: will Jermall do the same ?? And btw Brant's resume at mw is better than Mall's and Andrade's.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 15:13
by boxing_rocks
I would definitely prefer GGG to fight Andrade and get a real title. Jacobs rematch is less exciting, but also better than Brant.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 15:15
by apollo creed
Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 13:56
Andrade and Charlo are still unproven at middleweight, but Andrade holds a legitimate version of the title, and Charlo did put together a solid body of work at 154.
I'd rather see GGG face one of those, giving him with the WBO belt, or a mandatory position for the WBC, rather than go for a 'regular' title, even though I agree Brant has the best win at 160 out of those three names.
A Jacobs rematch would be best though, or even the hinted at Callum Smith bout at 168 - although I fear that one is a bad matchup for GGG, with Smith's size and seeing the way he dismantled Groves. I don't see anybody below 175 beating Smith at the moment.
Jacobs and Brant are worthy opponents for GGG. They did something good.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 15:18
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:13
I would definitely prefer GGG to fight Andrade and get a real title. Jacobs rematch is less exciting, but also better than Brant.
Imo Jermall and Andrade should test themselves against each other since both are unproven at mw. The winner should get the top dogs of mw division. This is the right way.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 15:31
by boxing_rocks
apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:18
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:13
I would definitely prefer GGG to fight Andrade and get a real title. Jacobs rematch is less exciting, but also better than Brant.
Imo Jermall and Andrade should test themselves against each other since both are unproven at mw. The winner should get the top dogs of mw division. This is the right way.
Andrade got a real belt, so he is an attractive target. Charlo should fight Derevo, Saunders or at least Lemieux to deserve a title shot in such a strong division.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 15:39
by Ruthless-RKO
Funny that both Canelo and GGG are going for the WBA ‘Regular’ belt.
Pacquiao recently won the ‘Regular’ belt too.
Hmm.. something fishy going on here.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 15:54
by apollo creed
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:31
apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:18
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:13
I would definitely prefer GGG to fight Andrade and get a real title. Jacobs rematch is less exciting, but also better than Brant.
Imo Jermall and Andrade should test themselves against each other since both are unproven at mw. The winner should get the top dogs of mw division. This is the right way.
Andrade got a real belt, so he is an attractive target. Charlo should fight Derevo, Saunders or at least Lemieux to deserve a title shot in such a strong division.
Yeah it's true.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 16:00
by apollo creed
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:39
Funny that both Canelo and GGG are going for the WBA ‘Regular’ belt.
Pacquiao recently won the ‘Regular’ belt too.
Hmm.. something fishy going on here.
Probably a more facile way to get to the full title.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 17:51
by Mexi-Box
You guys are ridiculous! WTF makes Andrade's title "real"!? He did not beat Saunders for it and his best win is probably Willie Nelson years ago.
Brant is superior to Andrade, period!
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 02 Nov 2018, 18:32
by Deleted_Scenes
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 17:51
You guys are ridiculous! WTF makes Andrade's title "real"!? He did not beat Saunders for it and his best win is probably Willie Nelson years ago.
Brant is superior to Andrade, period!
I was referring to the fact it's one of the main 4 (WBC, WBA SUPER, IBF, WBO) not how he won it.
Brant's one big win is better than anything Andrade has done. I agree.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 04:06
by DrDuke
A decent match, but similar to Canelo's next bout it seems to be an easy work for GGG. It'll be great, if those fights become kinda reposing before the bigger ones, particulary a potential Canelo-GGG III, which will have sense for sure.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 04:37
by apollo creed
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 17:51
You guys are ridiculous! WTF makes Andrade's title "real"!? He did not beat Saunders for it and his best win is probably Willie Nelson years ago.
Brant is superior to Andrade, period!
It's just a major title. Nothing more.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 04:43
by apollo creed
DrDuke wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 04:06
A decent match, but similar to Canelo's next bout it seems to be an easy work for GGG. It'll be great, if those fights become kinda reposing before the bigger ones, particulary a potential Canelo-GGG III, which will have sense for sure.
If GGG will fight Brant and beat him then GGG will be Canelo's mandatory for the WBA super duper title. It makes sense. I also think that Canelo would vacate the wbc strap and he'd be made champion in recess.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 05:25
by Enlightened-One
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 15:39
Funny that both Canelo and GGG are going for the WBA ‘Regular’ belt.
Pacquiao recently won the ‘Regular’ belt too.
Hmm.. something fishy going on here.
An easy acquisition of a world title, whilst taking zero risk. These guys are exploiting the ignorance of mainstream casuals.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 06:18
by Onetimeonly
apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 12:30
I just want to say that based on facts that Brant is a more worthy opponent for GGG than Andrade and Jermall Charlo. Brant has a good win against Murata at mw. But if Charlo and Andrade would fight each other then we would have a new player in the mw division.
What is so special about murata?
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 07:03
by apollo creed
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 06:18
apollo creed wrote: ↑02 Nov 2018, 12:30
I just want to say that based on facts that Brant is a more worthy opponent for GGG than Andrade and Jermall Charlo. Brant has a good win against Murata at mw. But if Charlo and Andrade would fight each other then we would have a new player in the mw division.
What is so special about murata?
Special maybe not but he's a better achiever in boxing than the likes of Heiland, Centeno Jr, Monroe Jr. and Willie Nelson etc.
Olympic Games
Gold medal – first place 2012 London Middleweight
World Championships
Silver medal – second place 2011 Baku Middleweight
Asian Championships
Bronze medal – third place 2005 Ho Chi Minh City Middleweight
World Boxing Association World champion by avenging his first loss against a decent tested fighter like Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam. (Avtandil Khurtsidze, Max Bursak, Fulgencio Zuniga, Curtis Stevens, Alfonso Blanco and Ryota Murata I)
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 12:11
by Onetimeonly
Yup, just another guy with a weak resume you spout off at the mouth about in your never-ending quest to hate the charlos.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 13:18
by apollo creed
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 12:11
Yup, just another guy with a weak resume you spout off at the mouth about in your never-ending quest to hate the charlos.
Just true facts. You've asked me what is so special about Murata as being Brant's best win and I have answered you.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 13:20
by Onetimeonly
You posted a bronze medal in an amateur tourney from 15 years ago.
Re: GGG may fight Robert Brant in the first quarter of next year
Posted: 03 Nov 2018, 13:22
by Onetimeonly
So a pro career at a different weight means absolutely nothing, but an amateur career at a different weight with headgear counts? Jesus dude, read a book or something. Your brain is a muscle that needs training. I recommend yurtle the turtle for you.