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1. Andre Ward
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Terence Crawford
7. Tim Bradley
8. Vasyl Lomachenko
9. Canelo Álvarez
10. GGG

Lol at wlad.

1. Ward
2. Mayweather
3. Pacquiao
4. W. Klitschko
5. Lomachenko
6. Crawford
7. Usyk
8. Canelo
9. Golovkin
10. Kovalev

Combat Sports Fan wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 11:04 1. Andre Ward
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Terence Crawford
7. Tim Bradley
8. Vasyl Lomachenko
9. Canelo Álvarez
10. GGG

Good topic and list.

The only one I definitely think doesn’t belong is B-Hop. Pavlik was his last really good win, and that’s over ten years ago now. Pascal was probably his best win in the last 10 years. A lot of losses, draws and NC in that time too.

I’d have Sergio Martinez in ahead of him.

I don't see how Ward is above Floyd myself or Manny pac who beat hatton,cotton and Oscar within the last 10 years

Marquez has wins against Casamayor, Diaz, Pacquaio, Katsidis in addition to being a unified and lineal lightweight in the last 10 years he's got to be on the list.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 12:19 Lol at wlad.

- It would behoove ye of the Western neutered gerbil era during the Klitschko domination to not speak out so forcefully about a man’s combat sport, but you could give us a good snicker with your own top 10

Top tens are always debatable, but my top 4 since 2008 are set in stone.

1. Manny went 7-3 against Ring P4Pers in this frame that added to his previous dominance of that “division.” Still ranked P4P in Boxrec in spite of holding high political office in the Philippines since 2010.

2. Wlad approached and surpassed in part Joe Louis’ record 26-1 heavyweight title record with 25-4 title record. No heavy ever came close before.

3. Vitali set his own record by coming straight out of 4 year retirement to KO the WBC champ and surpass the career record of Lewis. Since 1999 with their first Ring ranking, the restored the DKing tarnished integrity of heavyweight boxing as any title fight had to go thru them, and the last bro, Wlad, properly put up a huge fight so the title could be restored to the man who beat the man who may have lost a battle to Fury, but won the war when Fury went off the rails much like Vitali did to Lewis.

4. Canelo, and please do note my first 4 picks are those fighters who had to overcome regrettable modern racial “stereotype casting” Hollywood is noted for sadly still ruling boxing.

Everything else becomes more fluid as to rankings, but note I don't rank obvious frauds and or deliberate drug cheats.

5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Mikey Garcia
7. Gennedy Golovkin
8. Sergio Kovalev
9. Tim Bradley
10. Miguel Cotto

BroughtonRulesRefuge wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 12:49

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑03 Nov 2018, 12:19 Lol at wlad.

- It would behoove ye of the Western neutered gerbil era during the Klitschko domination to not speak out so forcefully about a man’s combat sport, but you could give us a good snicker with your own top 10

Top tens are always debatable, but my top 4 since 2008 are set in stone.

1. Manny went 7-3 against Ring P4Pers in this frame that added to his previous dominance of that “division.” Still ranked P4P in Boxrec in spite of holding high political office in the Philippines since 2010.

2. Wlad approached and surpassed in part Joe Louis’ record 26-1 heavyweight title record with 25-4 title record. No heavy ever came close before.

3. Vitali set his own record by coming straight out of 4 year retirement to KO the WBC champ and surpass the career record of Lewis. Since 1999 with their first Ring ranking, the restored the DKing tarnished integrity of heavyweight boxing as any title fight had to go thru them, and the last bro, Wlad, properly put up a huge fight so the title could be restored to the man who beat the man who may have lost a battle to Fury, but won the war when Fury went off the rails much like Vitali did to Lewis.

4. Canelo, and please do note my first 4 picks are those fighters who had to overcome regrettable modern racial “stereotype casting” Hollywood is noted for sadly still ruling boxing.

Everything else becomes more fluid as to rankings, but note I don't rank obvious frauds and or deliberate drug cheats.

5. Joe Calzaghe
6. Mikey Garcia
7. Gennedy Golovkin
8. Sergio Kovalev
9. Tim Bradley
10. Miguel Cotto

Yet, you've ranked Canelo, a guy who's failed two tests in 2018 alone. Vitali who failed a PED test before as a kickboxer and Pacquaio who was pretty suspect and declined blood testing at one point. Not saying he is a cheat bit I think you've left certain guys off because of a personal dislike and gave certain fighters a pass who you are more attached to.

Calzaghe only fought Roy Jones in the last 10 years. Is that really a stronger run than what Marquez, Lomachenko, Crawford, Ward, Usyk, Donaire etc; did in that time frame?

Donaire definitely deserves a mention. No love for Chocolatito?

I’d have Rigo, GGG, Kovalev, and a lot of others ahead before Donarie. As for Chocolatito, I always thought he was good but really overrated. I mean some people were considering him to be the p4p #1 while Floyd and Andre Ward were on top.

ElJefe wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 20:09 Donaire definitely deserves a mention. No love for Chocolatito?

Yes, he’d be among the top 10 I’m sure if I’d do a list.

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 13:35 Yet, you've ranked Canelo, a guy who's failed two tests in 2018 alone. Vitali who failed a PED test before as a kickboxer and Pacquaio who was pretty suspect and declined blood testing at one point. Not saying he is a cheat bit I think you've left certain guys off because of a personal dislike and gave certain fighters a pass who you are more attached to.

Calzaghe only fought Roy Jones in the last 10 years. Is that really a stronger run than what Marquez, Lomachenko, Crawford, Ward, Usyk, Donaire etc; did in that time frame?

- Your pain of not knowing of what you know not was preordained.

Just the facts ma'am:

Canelo never failed a drug test. He showed ghost nanograms of a legal substance in his food chain, Clenbuterol, well below the fail parameters of VADA as shown by multi clear tests before and after further supported by a hair follicle test. Vegas suits bumrushed an exec meeting as they had done when TUE 50-0 and WADA Travis Tygart requested a Theraputic User Exemption 2 WEEKS AFTER, the Manny fight that they granted.

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/ ... 018_en.pdf

For Canelo the Vegas Cartel instituted a zero drug testing tolerance, movable goal posts by Vegas suits known for the dirty administration as all of boxing is known for.

Vitali failed the 1996 Olympic testing. His coaches were from Soviet sports program where athletes do what coaches, ie the "party" tell them or family members get fast tracked into abject poverty. He never failed a pro test nor did Wlad. Ukraine is still struggling to institute a credible democracy.

Pac weren't suspect, it was TUE 50-0 and all you ninnygram IQs fornicating with your BALCO Vic VADA "Clean" Boxing Vitamins that are suspect. Manny never declined blood testing. After great expense in hammering out the 03/13/10 TUE bout, he refused the TUE last minute demand of having complete control of drug testing.

SuperJoe came to America in 2008 as soon as he could get out from under Alegedly's thumb to humiliate the Ring LH champ and #5, Popkins and Roy in their back yards. He  could've returned to Wales to slap around 3 more no hopers and retire 49-0 tied with Rocky, but Joe has more honor than that. He and Hatton set the stage for the great British rebirth now headed by Anthony Joshua.

Now be a good boy and bugger off as I cannot be perpetually bothered with the ineducable incapable of compiling their own list.