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Fight has been announced for 31/12 at a RIZIN event in Japan.

The rule set/weight are yet to be finalised.

Nasukawa is a 20 year old kickboxer who has also fought in MMA. He’s had no experience in pro boxing.

these will have to be some super restrictive rules im guessing, otherwise cant see floyd going into something like this

tenshin will have a field day if hes allowed to throw kicks, at least as he doesnt have a limit of like 1 kick a round

amnat ruenrong fought tenshin in kickboxing and lost via 4th round stoppage, although ruenrong had been training muay thai since just a kid, even before boxing

Well surely he cannot just straight box this kid. He is a couple weight divisions below. That alone makes me think he may have a go at kickboxing. Nah, surely not.

Either way seems odd - Mayweather kickboxing or Mayweather taking on a 20-year-old kid with no pro boxing experience and a lot lighter. According to Wiki, feather in RISE where he is champion is the same limit as pro boxing - 126lb.

His last fight was at 118lb, so surely this has to be with kicks.

The way Mayweather was speaking on the clip I watched from the conference, it sounds like an exhibition match. Which makes sense really; his participation in promoting what is primarily a business deal.

pablothunder wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 03:15 The way Mayweather was speaking on the clip I watched from the conference, it sounds like an exhibition match. Which makes sense really; his participation in promoting what is primarily a business deal.

Only this option is sound indeed.

Honestly, who cares what Mayweather gets upto anymore?

This fight will most likely be staged.



Sonnen was quiet vocal about this.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 04:35 Honestly, who cares what Mayweather gets upto anymore?

Here Here- 100% agree

pablothunder wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 03:15 The way Mayweather was speaking on the clip I watched from the conference, it sounds like an exhibition match. Which makes sense really; his participation in promoting what is primarily a business deal.

Totally agree, he's putting in casinos in Asia And they love a circus half wresting fight over there.

I will wait and see what the stipulations before I make a judgement. To be honest at 41, I just want to appreciate Floyd's skill set for as long as feasible. We will miss it when the skill set has gone completely.

i dont understand how this can work. if its strait boxing mayweather fucks his day. if there is any kicks aloud mayweather is done. sooo done, one leg kick and mayweather would be over. mabey they could use different gloves and allow elbows, but thats as much as they could fornicate with it. seems a waste as well seeing as this guy is noone outside of japan.

Won’t be a full in MMA rules fight as nasukawa is a beast and would quite honestly maul floyd under those conditions (obviously)

Highly restricted rule set or fixed probably

Oiky wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 07:34 Won’t be a full in MMA rules fight as nasukawa is a beast and would quite honestly maul floyd under those conditions (obviously)

Highly restricted rule set or fixed probably

The latter sounds about right, mayweather will probably choke him out in about in about 2 mins.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 05:30 This fight will most likely be staged.



Sonnen was quiet vocal about this.

Chael sonnen is brilliant and speaks the truth.

dunno...pretty sure i once saw him suggest that fedors whole pride career was fixed fights (might be what hes saying there...havent watched) .

is that really the truth?

ddnt he go down for some type of fraud too?

hes funny but seems bit of a shady weirdo

This isn’t MMA in a cage. People assuming Mayweather is fvcked because a kick boxer is allowed to kick him in a fight are completely underplaying boxing in any boxing vs kickboxing comparison. I’d expect Mayweather to bust him up completely, even if he is allowed to kick. Even at 41 and way past his best too.

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 13:02 This isn’t MMA in a cage. People assuming Mayweather is fvcked because a kick boxer is allowed to kick him in a fight are completely underplaying boxing in any boxing vs kickboxing comparison. I’d expect Mayweather to bust him up completely, even if he is allowed to kick. Even at 41 and way past his best too.

dont agree , kicks change things completely and as someone who done both sports i think tenshin would win handily in any sort of real kickboxing match. floyd not going to shoulder roll away from a kick either

boxers do pretty much nothing vs good kickboxers , the kicks totally mess up any sort of traditional boxing approach

Nah I don’t see that. He could just control the fight at range with his kicks. Zero chance this will be a kickboxing fight.

jamamb wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 13:05

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 13:02 This isn’t MMA in a cage. People assuming Mayweather is fvcked because a kick boxer is allowed to kick him in a fight are completely underplaying boxing in any boxing vs kickboxing comparison. I’d expect Mayweather to bust him up completely, even if he is allowed to kick. Even at 41 and way past his best too.

dont agree , kicks change things completely and as someone who done both sports i think tenshin would win handily in any sort of real kickboxing match. floyd not going to shoulder roll away from a kick either

boxers do pretty much nothing vs good kickboxers , the kicks totally mess up any sort of traditional boxing approach

When martial artists are of a similar standard its hard to predict how it would go. I’ve never been a fan of martial art A beats martial art B. Thing here is, this kid ( and I’m assuming here, granted! ) will not be able to kickbox to the level that Mayweather can box. I’m also assuming he certainly cant box to the level Mayweather can.
It all depends on the person, not the art.
It’s never going to take place under real kickboxing rules but even if it did, I’m surprised people would expect someone like Mayweather to simply attempt to box as if he was facing Canelo.

It would make it very interesting but kicking, as great as it is and can be, can leave you vulnerable. Floyd probably not the best to take advantage of it perhaps given his style in the second half of his career, but maybe he’ll throw caution to the wind against someone who will never have fought anyone close to Floyd’s skill set/level before.

It makes me chuckle everytime these discussions come about. Boxers seemingly stand no chance against anyone in these debates, because they can “only” box A world class elite level boxers precision and speed in his punch is unmatched across all martial arts imo.

the kicks bring a new dimension that is totally foreign to boxers, and kicks have more range the punches. something like a leg kick will completely mess with a boxers stance and positioning. what is this new approach a boxer would create that theyve never used before ? its not like kickboxers have never seen punches, but boxers havent seen kicks

if this guy just decides to move and kick at range well outside arms length, leg kicks, push kicks, etc what is floyd going to do ? how would floyd deal with being in clinch range but then getting kneed?

a top flight kickboxer with strong kicking skills is pretty much always going to neutralize a boxer who has no experience other then in boxing. boxers do miserably when they fight kickboxers with pulses, despite having more pure boxing abilities

fliyd doesnt have a good style for it either, youd be better off getting an aggresive boxer with power who might be able to catch a break and land a big shot

ShadrachSimmo wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 08:40

Oiky wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 07:34 Won’t be a full in MMA rules fight as nasukawa is a beast and would quite honestly maul floyd under those conditions (obviously)

Highly restricted rule set or fixed probably

The latter sounds about right, mayweather will probably choke him out in about in about 2 mins.

More importantly, I'm wondering where the money for this fight is going to come from

as for discpline vs discpline , if someone wants to conqueror the muay thai world, for example, do you really think its optimal or makes no difference to have them just training in boxing instead of muay thai? of course some arts are superior to others under certain rules

and the more open the rules become, the more it favours arts (or discipline combos) that maximize a fighters toolset and ability to adjust

jamamb wrote: ↑05 Nov 2018, 14:01 as for discpline vs discpline , if someone wants to conqueror the muay thai world, for example, do you really think its optimal to have them just training in boxing instead of muay thai? of course some arts are superior to others under certain rules

and the more open the rules become, the more it favours arts (or discipline combos) that maximize a fighters toolset and ability to adjust

I’m assuming Mayweather would attempt some form of kickboxing training if he signed up for a kickboxing match

Whatever happens, this seems a very very fvcking strange event!

https://es.pn/2SZbxjY

NOT HAPPENENING!

RIZIN wanted a real fight. FMJ wanted a 3 round exhibition.

Five division world champion Floyd Mayweather took to social media to deny reports that he ever agreed to fight kickboxer Tenshin Nasukawa in a main event bout on December 31 in Tokyo Japan.

https://www.BS.com/mayweather- ... hy--133491

"Now that I am back on U.S. soil after a long and disappointing trip to Tokyo, I now have the time to address you, my fans and the media in regard to the upcoming event on December 31st that was recently announced," Mayweather stated.