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Erislandy Lara has withdrawn from the WBC drug testing programme.
Why?

Strange. Maybe he's retiring. Still an odd way to announce it.

His loss to Hurd was the type of loss that fighters retire after. Just completely outmanned and had his heart ripped out of his chest. Nowhere to hide.

Or he has issues with the inconsistent program that has allowed fighters away with violations, and has decided to take a stand against the hypocrisy... You never know, he may actually have a legitimate reason...

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 02:28 Or he has issues with the inconsistent program that has allowed fighters away with violations, and has decided to take a stand against the hypocrisy... You never know, he may actually have a legitimate reason...

I imagine that there is an explanation, it just seems odd not to tell people what it is

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 02:28 Or he has issues with the inconsistent program that has allowed fighters away with violations, and has decided to take a stand against the hypocrisy... You never know, he may actually have a legitimate reason...

Something like that was in my mind. Maybe behind the scenes it is complete bollox and he is making a stand.

“The WBC has an agreement with VADA, which is the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association in charge of administering the Clean Boxing Program. VADA coordinates the collection of samples, the chain of custody and the analysis in laboratories. The WBC is in charge of the results..."

Would you not be reluctant to sign up to something where the WBC is in charge of the results?

JimStone wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 05:52 “The WBC has an agreement with VADA, which is the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association in charge of administering the Clean Boxing Program. VADA coordinates the collection of samples, the chain of custody and the analysis in laboratories. The WBC is in charge of the results..."

Would you not be reluctant to sign up to something where the WBC is in charge of the results?

It’s not a failure to sign up that’s made the news, it is a boxer who was enrolled leaving the programme.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 06:31

JimStone wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 05:52 “The WBC has an agreement with VADA, which is the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association in charge of administering the Clean Boxing Program. VADA coordinates the collection of samples, the chain of custody and the analysis in laboratories. The WBC is in charge of the results..."

Would you not be reluctant to sign up to something where the WBC is in charge of the results?

It’s not a failure to sign up that’s made the news, it is a boxer who was enrolled leaving the programme.

I know but the whys and wherefores of his departure have not been expanded on. You've posed a question as to why he may have left. I'm asking if this fighter has requested the WBC to disclose some results and they have refused?

With all the nonsense with Tyson and hughie fury, canelo and billy Joe Saunders how can anyone have any faith in the drug resting programs? It's all dictated to by money clearly. I have always said money talks and bull walks. I believe at the elite levels in all sports there on it

JamieM wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 09:38 With all the nonsense with Tyson and hughie fury, canelo and billy Joe Saunders how can anyone have any faith in the drug resting programs? It's all dictated to by money clearly. I have always said money talks and bull walks. I believe at the elite levels in all sports there on it

Using examples of guys who have probably used assistance as suggested is hardly going to strengthen any argument fella.

JimStone wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 07:57

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 06:31

JimStone wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 05:52 “The WBC has an agreement with VADA, which is the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association in charge of administering the Clean Boxing Program. VADA coordinates the collection of samples, the chain of custody and the analysis in laboratories. The WBC is in charge of the results..."

Would you not be reluctant to sign up to something where the WBC is in charge of the results?

It’s not a failure to sign up that’s made the news, it is a boxer who was enrolled leaving the programme.

I know but the whys and wherefores of his departure have not been expanded on. You've posed a question as to why he may have left. I'm asking if this fighter has requested the WBC to disclose some results and they have refused?

Oh I see. I misunderstood on account of you saying something completely different!
Dunno, I have never been VADA tested so I have no idea if they work differently to other organisations but I believe that it’s standard for other organisations to issue a copy of results to the athlete.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 09:44

JimStone wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 07:57

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 06:31

It’s not a failure to sign up that’s made the news, it is a boxer who was enrolled leaving the programme.

I know but the whys and wherefores of his departure have not been expanded on. You've posed a question as to why he may have left. I'm asking if this fighter has requested the WBC to disclose some results and they have refused?

Oh I see. I misunderstood on account of you saying something completely different!
Dunno, I have never been VADA tested so I have no idea if they work differently to other organisations but I believe that it’s standard for other organisations to issue a copy of results to the athlete.

Sorry, I am using translator. As I understand it, with the WBC programme, the results are only given to the WBC and it is up to them what they do with them. I'd be happy if somebody could confirm that for sure. Maybe if guys feel like they are keeping back some positives because of who the fighter is they will not be keen to sign or stay signed.

JamieM wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 09:38 With all the nonsense with Tyson and hughie fury, canelo and billy Joe Saunders how can anyone have any faith in the drug resting programs? It's all dictated to by money clearly. I have always said money talks and bull walks. I believe at the elite levels in all sports there on it

agreed. They are all on it

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑08 Nov 2018, 02:28 Or he has issues with the inconsistent program that has allowed fighters away with violations, and has decided to take a stand against the hypocrisy... You never know, he may actually have a legitimate reason...

If it is this, fairplay to him