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Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 11:04
by dagilechia
what is your CW ranking after the quarterfinals of the WBSS? did it affected your ranking a lot?
my ranking:
1.Oleksandr Usyk
2.Murat Gassiev
3.Yunier Dorticos
4.Tony Bellew
5.Krzysztof Głowacki
6.Mairis Briedis
7.Denis Lebedev
8.Mateusz Masternak
9.Maksim Vlasov
10.Andrew Tabiti
11.Arsen Goulamirian
12.Noel Mikaelian
13.Krzysztof Włodarczyk
14.Mike Perez
15.Ilunga Makabu
i would like to see fights like
Gassiev vs winner of the WBSS
Masternak vs Vlasov
Lebedev vs Włodarczyk
Włodarczyk vs Makabu
Mikaelian vs Perez
loser of Dorticos/Tabiti (most likely Tabiti) vs Perez
loser of Głowacki/Briedis vs Goulamirian
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 14:23
by ValMar
It is not clear for me, definitely. Without Usyk the top five might be : Gassiev, Briedis, Glowacky, Dorticos and Lebedev.
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 11 Nov 2018, 16:51
by Onetimeonly
Breidis looked horrible yesterday.
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 11:49
by jamamb
personally , i thought glowacki looked pretty good vs a decent contender and would have him at #3 after usyk and gassiev. he was also the guy who ktfo huck when marco had been long reinging
dorticos next probably. briedis was ranking high but just looked so bad vs a guy not that good imo, i think a guy like tabiti would beat him on that showing. the glowacki fight should tell us if it was just an off night
lerena would make my top 15 although i hadnt known about his ped test. bellew i consider retired
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 11:55
by Ruthless-RKO
I remember after Usyk won the WBSS, many said Briedis is 2nd best and Gassiev is 3rd.
Was that simple because the scorecards were closer in Usyk vs. Briedis? I still ranked Gassiev as 2nd best after Usyk.
Looks like Briedis is realy dipping. Shocking past 2 performances.
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 17:23
by Mexi-Box
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 11:55
I remember after Usyk won the WBSS, many said Briedis is 2nd best and Gassiev is 3rd.
Was that simple because the scorecards were closer in Usyk vs. Briedis? I still ranked Gassiev as 2nd best after Usyk.
Looks like Briedis is realy dipping. Shocking past 2 performances.
Briedis runs hot and cold often. He didn't look great against Mike Perez either. You can't put it against him that he gave Usyk the toughest fight of his career. That means a lot. Gassiev was completely pushed over.
Plus, Briedis' resume is arguably better than Gassiev if you take into account that Gassiev possibly has a loss to a past-prime Denis Lebedev.
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 12 Nov 2018, 18:09
by Ruthless-RKO
Mexi-Box wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 17:23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑12 Nov 2018, 11:55
I remember after Usyk won the WBSS, many said Briedis is 2nd best and Gassiev is 3rd.
Was that simple because the scorecards were closer in Usyk vs. Briedis? I still ranked Gassiev as 2nd best after Usyk.
Looks like Briedis is realy dipping. Shocking past 2 performances.
Briedis runs hot and cold often. He didn't look great against Mike Perez either. You can't put it against him that he gave Usyk the toughest fight of his career. That means a lot. Gassiev was completely pushed over.
Plus, Briedis' resume is arguably better than Gassiev if you take into account that Gassiev possibly has a loss to a past-prime Denis Lebedev.
Yeh forgot about Briedis vs. Perez! What a fight that was. Atrocious.
Yes, I scored in Lebedev’s favour against Gassiev, but Gassiev still has that as a win on his resume.
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 13:25
by ValMar
Anyway, it will be a very competitive division without Usyk.
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 13:35
by jamamb
i feel glowacki is a bit underrated, for some reason he gets left out of the briedis/gassiev level talk but i think hes there with them. maybe not competing in the first wbss hurt him in this sense, got a bit overlooked. he just won 9-11 rounds vs a decent lower top 10 guy, he ktfo a long riegning huck, bounched cunningham off the canvas, and at a lower level stopping askin was good too, okolie never came close to that. with there last fights i think glowacki defo should rank above briedis for the moment, there semifinal fight will tell us more obviously
as for leb-gas, it was highly competitive and i understand how some could have it for leb, but i felt 114-113/115-112 gass is about right
Re: Your Cruiserweight ranking - update after the WBSS quarterfinals
Posted: 13 Nov 2018, 14:39
by dagilechia
jamamb wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 13:35
i feel glowacki is a bit underrated, for some reason he gets left out of the briedis/gassiev level talk but i think hes there with them. maybe not competing in the first wbss hurt him in this sense, got a bit overlooked. he just won 9-11 rounds vs a decent lower top 10 guy, he ktfo a long riegning huck, bounched cunningham off the canvas, and at a lower level stopping askin was good too, okolie never came close to that. with there last fights i think glowacki defo should rank above briedis for the moment, there semifinal fight will tell us more obviously
as for leb-gas, it was highly competitive and i understand how some could have it for leb, but i felt 114-113/115-112 gass is about right
i guess he gets underrated also because of terrible performance vs unknown Radchenko (i scored it 76-74 Glowacki) when he was down twice in round 5. But he was so poor in this fight due to various reasons and also Glowacki just is the type of fighter that motivates himself much more against the world class opponents, he is different when fights bums.