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Does someone else think that Fury needs more time to prepare for the fight against Wilder?

Physically he is looking premo.
Training at 7000 feet for months.
So as far as stamina and fitness, He has got this.
But as far as activity in proper fights- it is a real concern.
He has done heaps of sparring, and as we all know, sparring isn't fighting.
Realistically, as long has he stays sharp for the duration of the fight, and dosent walk into a windmill, I think he will do ok

The Gypsy King is ready physically. He's ready mentally as well. I believe, he has regained his prime shape, what can mean only one thing: 40-1.

.he's 30 und he beat Wlad 3 years ago..if he' not ready now, will he ever?

i think he d be better prepared if hed made a more gradual step up in levels, but either way i think wilder would ko him

and the thing is, with a gradual step up, with a personality like furys who knows if hell go off the rails before the big fight time would come. tbh, wouldnt be surprised if that was a factor in this getting made so fast

The gypsy king isn't close to form judging by his last performances...hell , even in form does he beat Wilder? (Who is beatable)...he's broke from the coke and partying and needs the dough...it's no secret these two are friends behind the scenes and one may think an "agreement" is in place....either way this is another garbage fury fight.

I don't think that Fury would ever be ready for Wilder.

But preparing by feasting on dubious talents like munchkin Seferi and sliding Pianetta (Kevin Johnson KO victim, no less) means that Fury will have absolutely no chance.

It's a huge leap forward from those two to the Bronze Bomber. Especially when Fury hasn't had true ring combat for 3 years.

A rusty Ali prepared for Frazier by taking on two of the planet's best--Quarry and Bonavena. It still wasn't adequate.

And Fury is no Ali. He's in far over his head.

The Fury that beat Wlad would beat Wilder too. Sadly that Fury does not exist anymore...

Will have to wait and see what the 80% version can do

The fury that beat wlad would get destroyed by wilder. He needs to crowd him to win. Too easy to hit on the outside.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑14 Nov 2018, 14:39
And Fury is no Ali. He's in far over his head.

What?
Not even "shades of Ali"?

Shades of Ali copyright 2017, used without permission.

Duran1970 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2018, 14:34 The gypsy king isn't close to form judging by his last performances...hell , even in form does he beat Wilder? (Who is beatable)...he's broke from the coke and partying and needs the dough...it's no secret these two are friends behind the scenes and one may think an "agreement" is in place....either way this is another garbage fury fight.

He has plenty money, "broke from the coke" is a joke. They aren't "friends behind the scenes". That is another wrong statement.

What kind of "agreement" should be in place when heavyweight number 2, wbc-titleholder & the lineal heavyweight champion are fighting?

Do you think either of the two would give up the chance to challenge joshua in an unification & earn a fornicating fortune win or loose? Stupid assumption!

Fury is 100% fit & ready! Most probably he would've beaten wilder a year ago when he was 400 pounds, a fit fury will make wilder look a helpless fool, while outbox, totally frustrate & completly embarass the protected one trick pony.

All fury has to do is box & move, wilder just can't keep up, it's impossible, if fury doesn't get stupid, inviting wilder to load up and swing at his chin stuck out with his hands on his back or shit like that.

cromen27 wrote: ↑14 Nov 2018, 14:03 Does someone else think that Fury needs more time to prepare for the fight against Wilder?

Do you mean he needs more time to train, or he needs more fights?

He certainly doesn't need anymore fights against cardboard cut-outs & car crash dummies, that's for sure.

Fury doesn't need more time to prepare, or even more trainers now that he's got Freddy Roach and Ricky Hatton helping out too. He just needs to not get hit.

Good to see him giving this his all. Fury will be at his very best against Wilder, even better than when he 'fought' Klitschko.

His problem is that Wilder knows exactly what Fury will attempt to do and might actually throw some punches back. Unlike Wladimir, Wilder doesn't need to tee up his punches so carefully, and isn't so predictably tied up to technique and balance in the same way.

How you see this fight panning out must depend largely on how you view Klitschko's performance against Fury. I tend to see it as Klitschko not turning up, but others might see it as a boxing masterclass by Fury.

I might have to force myself to rewatch that 'classic' encounter from 2015 just to recheck. I certainly hope that Deontay Wilder and his team take a very careful look at it because the Tyson Fury who they will face at the Staples Center come Dec 1 will be the best version of Fury yet.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... g/46227363

DuIl fight.

Predictable outcome.

No "agreement" neccesary. Besides, I doubt that they're friends.

Look into it..

I said that from the moment the fight was mooted that Fury has no chance. 2015 Fury beats Wilder (unless of course Wilder lands the equalizer. That can never be ruled out against any opponent anytime) but this current version has little chance. Seferi and Pianeta are not sufficient preparation for a puncher like Wilder.

If Fury had wins over a couple of top 5 - 10 or even 10 - 15 opponents then I'd say he's as ready as he'll ever be, but as it is I'm expecting him to mess Deontay around for a couple of rounds and for Deontay to eventually find the range and knock him spark out.

I do give Fury a chance though which I didn't when the they were talking about the fight a few months ago. This is mainly because Fury is a great talker and I can be a bit gullible.

Freddie Roach who is tends to be extremely forthright said Fury has very sharp in training.

Thomastearns wrote: ↑18 Nov 2018, 10:59 Fury doesn't need more time to prepare, or even more trainers now that he's got Freddy Roach and Ricky Hatton helping out too. He just needs to not get hit.

Good to see him giving this his all. Fury will be at his very best against Wilder, even better than when he 'fought' Klitschko.

His problem is that Wilder knows exactly what Fury will attempt to do and might actually throw some punches back. Unlike Wladimir, Wilder doesn't need to tee up his punches so carefully, and isn't so predictably tied up to technique and balance in the same way.

How you see this fight panning out must depend largely on how you view Klitschko's performance against Fury. I tend to see it as Klitschko not turning up, but others might see it as a boxing masterclass by Fury.

I might have to force myself to rewatch that 'classic' encounter from 2015 just to recheck. I certainly hope that Deontay Wilder and his team take a very careful look at it because the Tyson Fury who they will face at the Staples Center come Dec 1 will be the best version of Fury yet.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... g/46227363

Klitschko didn’t show up and don’t watch it, it’s bloody terrible.

Wilder KO 9.

marvelous marv wrote: ↑19 Nov 2018, 20:10 Freddie Roach who is tends to be extremely forthright said Fury has very sharp in training.

I’ve gone off Roach. I used to really rate him but he’s said some really daft stuff the last few years.

Has Freddie not shipped rather too much heavy leather? He certainly sounds like it.

I'm sure that Wilder's team have been working hard on reducing Tyson Fury's main strengths of head movement and footwork.

Against Klitschko, Fury was able to keep his head and upper body moving for most of the fight, back and forth, circling clockwise, anticlockwise, never letting Wladimir set one up. He had the faster hands and more accurate jab and was able to judge distance far better than Klitschko who spent the evening trying vainly to tee one up. If Steward had been in his corner, he'd have been screaming at him to let his hands go by the fifth or sixth.

Instead Klitschko resolutely stuck to his losing game plan and only got into the fight with 6 minutes to go when Fury was slowing. He'd have slowed a lot more if Klitschko had landed anything of consequence before then.

My guess is that Fury will attempt similar tactics against Wilder - staying at distance and leaning in close head first and holding when in danger, as he tired towards the end.

Wilder's team know that Fury will win this fight at a canter unless their man can land something big. Tyson Fury was a bad dream for the hopelessly predictable Klitschko that night but I'm guessing the unpredictable Wilder will be a nightmare for Fury.

ya who knows what particular power punch wilder will throw lol

"Tyson Fury resembles CRUISERWEIGHT"

Amazing. I've never seen anything like it.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2018/11 ... kolie/amp/

jamamb wrote: ↑20 Nov 2018, 13:38 ya who knows what particular power punch wilder will throw lol

Luckily for him it's the one fury is wide open for.

Ive said from the start that he's not ready for Wilder! I'd take not an ounce of pleasure being proved right! I hope he proves me wrong! I'd probably be more buzzing than I was when Calzaghe beat Lacy and Burns walloped Rocky Martinez!