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Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 10:15
by guysecretan
Hearn keeps piping up saying Fury is a boring fighter and a spoiler his only interesting fight is with Cunningham where he got knocked down. Thoughts?

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 10:33
by DrDuke
Fury is more of a boxer, than a spoiler. He actually was spoiling quite a lot in a Cunningham fight, when he began overpowering him with his size. So Hearn's statement is delusional. Hearn is actually spreading anti-Fury bias, cause he probably sees Wilder as a better opponent for Joshua, thus he wants to make AJ-Wilder fight more, than Fury-AJ.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 11:09
by jamamb
early in his career he was a fun fighter

but as time went on, after some scares, he became a totally negative 'nullifying' fighter. wlad was like that but at least had power for some added interest

ppl go on about the wlad fight sucking, but chisora 2 was even worse. chisora rematch, hammer, and wlad all sucked

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 11:18
by ironbeard
Tyson Fury is not an exciting boxer. However, if you appreciate the art of boxing, especially at the HW level, he is not boring.

I did not find the Wlad fight as boring as most of his critics did. Fury caught Wlad on a flat night and he boxed beautifully to legitimately take the crown.

I expect that this will be a much more eventful 12 rounds, one way or the other.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 11:19
by jamamb
dont agree with that at all even assuming fury really is this highly skilled big man, you can appreciate something while being bored by it, i have no idea why so many ppl act like those are joint things

to me that always seems like some self satisfying 'im into deeper things' stuff

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 11:32
by ironbeard
jamamb wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 11:19 dont agree with that at all even assuming fury really is this highly skilled big man, you can appreciate something while being bored by it, i have no idea why so many ppl act like those are joint things

to me that always seems like some self satisfying 'im into deeper things' stuff
It was not meant to come across that way. I did not get into boxing for knuckle dragging droolers exchanging blows like drunks on a Saturday night or Rockem Sockem Robots.

I appreciate a boxer who can do damage while avoiding it. If a boxer can win a high level fight against a far more powerful and accomplished foe, I enjoy watching it, no matter how few total blows are landed.

I also appreciate great fights between tremendous boxers, like the Pac v JMM series, SRL v Hitman, etc.

Wlad was more boring than Fury for me. Thank goodness he capped his career with an epic battle, going out on his shield.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 12:47
by Enlightened-One
Casual fight fans clearly prefer to watch ‘Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots’ slugging it out, rather than fighters that perceive the sport as being a ‘Sweet Science’.

I’ll concede that Fury hasn’t got an aesthetically-pleasing fighting style, since his approach is an acquired taste only appreciated by the palates of the very hardest of hard-core fight fan aficionados. It is, however, very effective.

To plagiarise on of my favourite boxing scribes:

Casuals will inevitably say that [Tyson Fury] is boring, but I think the truth here is that to those who appreciate execution of the sweet science, he’s far from it, and at the end of the day, the real reason people find his ability to be boring is because it usually means absolute domination.

Absolute domination is absolute domination, and when a man can separate himself from a competitor by being that good, it simply makes for an uneventful evening that just feels bad!

Here's the deal: A "fight" is only a "fight" when one man hits the other and the other can hit him back. It's not much of a "fight" when one of them knows how to "box", because in "boxing" you win by OUT "BOXING" the opposite "fighter".


So it has to be Tyson’s objective to “bore” mainstream casuals by preventing his bout against Wilder from becoming a “fight”, by preventing his American rival from returning fire by any means necessary. The Brit needs to dominate ‘The Bronze Bomber’ for the entirety of the bout!

None of us should expect Fury to attempt to entertain fight fans by adding some "excitement" to the contest, because it’s clearly not in his own best interests!

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 13:09
by DrDuke
Yeah, only casuals, who are rather fans of fighting, than boxing, can call Fury boring. Fury's style displays quite impressive skills, that's why he's interesting to watch.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 13:10
by jamamb
nah thats just stupid, you can be a full fan of boxing without being entertained by a particular style

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 13:19
by Nightmare Roy
guysecretan wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 10:15 Hearn keeps piping up saying Fury is a boring fighter and a spoiler his only interesting fight is with Cunningham where he got knocked down. Thoughts?
He's gutted he isn't involved with the biggest HW this year IMO

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 13:23
by DrDuke
jamamb wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 13:10 nah thats just stupid, you can be a full fan of boxing without being entertained by a particular style
It is a bit different situation. That doesn't defy boredom. Cause in this case some boxing fans can find generally acceptable by other boxing fans styles boring.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:13
by Onetimeonly
Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 13:19
guysecretan wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 10:15 Hearn keeps piping up saying Fury is a boring fighter and a spoiler his only interesting fight is with Cunningham where he got knocked down. Thoughts?
He's gutted he isn't involved with the biggest HW this year IMO
We'll see how big it is. I'm expecting it to tank on ppv here.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:16
by oogiebe
guysecretan wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 10:15 Hearn keeps piping up saying Fury is a boring fighter and a spoiler his only interesting fight is with Cunningham where he got knocked down. Thoughts?
Hearn = promoter = a$$hole.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:17
by ironbeard
100% agree. Marketing / advertising for this event has been utterly inadequate, beginning with the location chosen right on down through the ludicrous undercard.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:21
by lillywhite14
Nightmare Roy wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 13:19
guysecretan wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 10:15 Hearn keeps piping up saying Fury is a boring fighter and a spoiler his only interesting fight is with Cunningham where he got knocked down. Thoughts?
He's gutted he isn't involved with the biggest HW this year IMO
Any Joshua fight is the biggest heavyweight fight of the year though. In terms of sales, money and all that bollocks I mean. That’s all Hearn cares about doesn’t he?

Joshua makes more money fighting you or me than Fury and Wilder will make combined fighting each other this Saturday. Eddie and his like are all about the £££

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:22
by Onetimeonly
ironbeard wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 14:17 100% agree. Marketing / advertising for this event has been utterly inadequate, beginning with the location chosen right on down through the ludicrous undercard.
That's not even venturing into the championship games and two stacked UFC ppvs later this month. Their best bet is if they can snag some buys if Stevenson/gvodzyk is a real war.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:29
by ironbeard
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 14:22
ironbeard wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 14:17 100% agree. Marketing / advertising for this event has been utterly inadequate, beginning with the location chosen right on down through the ludicrous undercard.
That's not even venturing into the championship games and two stacked UFC ppvs later this month. Their best bet is if they can snag some buys if Stevenson/gvodzyk is a real war.
I take back a portion of what I posted. The Adonis v Gvodzyk fight makes this a better card than most boxing PPVs. I overlooked that, which completely affects my decisionmaking process related to this PPV.

That is just more evidence that they are NOT properly promoting this fight.

Do you know if it is PPV in Canada?

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:33
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 13:10 nah thats just stupid, you can be a full fan of boxing without being entertained by a particular style
Exactly. I find Fury boring at times, but I have an appreciation of his methodology and ability to execute.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:34
by Onetimeonly
No idea

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:40
by ironbeard
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 14:34 No idea
It is. That should have a significant positive impact on ppv sales.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 14:52
by jamamb
ironbeard wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 14:29
Onetimeonly wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 14:22
ironbeard wrote: 28 Nov 2018, 14:17 100% agree. Marketing / advertising for this event has been utterly inadequate, beginning with the location chosen right on down through the ludicrous undercard.
That's not even venturing into the championship games and two stacked UFC ppvs later this month. Their best bet is if they can snag some buys if Stevenson/gvodzyk is a real war.
I take back a portion of what I posted. The Adonis v Gvodzyk fight makes this a better card than most boxing PPVs. I overlooked that, which completely affects my decisionmaking process related to this PPV.

That is just more evidence that they are NOT properly promoting this fight.

Do you know if it is PPV in Canada?
adonis vs gvo isnt on the card

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 15:16
by Onetimeonly
It's on Showtime before the Showtime ppv.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 15:31
by ironbeard

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 15:31
by Mexi-Box
He was definitely doing it in the Cunningham fight. Also, the way he stopped Cunningham might've been illegal. He held Cunningham's face and hit him with a huge shot.

Re: Tyson Fury a spoiler + boring fighter?

Posted: 28 Nov 2018, 15:33
by jamamb
ya so you can watch possibly the best fight of the night without paying for the mismatch mania ppv lol