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On last nights SKY Friday Fight Night Ian Darke mentioned that the government was thinking about bringing Boxing lessons back into schools. Is this true? It's the first I've heard of it.

If done properly with close supervision from the ABA and BBBofC etc this could be great news for the sport, as well as a means of reducing 'anti-social' behaviour in schools by introducing children to a contructive use of their energies and time etc.

This is of course a complex issue for the sport, society and education alike which require a great deal of carefull planning and thought.

From the sports point of view it could be a fantasic way of tapping into undescovered talent and new fans.

From societys viewpoint it could be a great way for children to channel their aggression constructively.

I can't see it ever happening though. What do you think fight fans?

Wasn't Darke refering to the Scottish government? I think it would have made bigger news had he been refering to England/Wales.

Whilst I would love to see it happen I just don't think it will. The laws in Schools now are so strict in order to prevent parents and kids seeking compensation the kids can basically do as they want.

The days of kids being forced to do PE in their uniform have long gone, in my old school they even had to think about aboloishing lunch time detention (having already aboloished after school detention). Kids can now phone home easy enough (with mobiles) and parents come in shouting the odds.

Two years ago, I was in my old school as part of a module for my degree in the week I was there 5 parents came running to the school saying that their kids were unfairly punished and even got an apology from the headmaster. I saw what these kids had done and I thought their punishment was't harsh enough in the first place. This is in a quiet school of only 350 kids in rural Wales, what goes on in these inter city schools is mind boggling.

What the hell would happen if Kids got black eyes as part of their learning?

No chance of happening I'm afraid.

I support this fully.

Maybe then more long term, boxing will be recognised by society as much more of a legitimate sport, alongside football and cricket.

When I was in school, my achievements in the ring went largely unrecognised by my school, even though I was representing the school, while pupils that achieved moderate success in comparison to other sports, such as football, cricket and rugby received great recognition.

children should be battered and not heard

Boxing teaches discipline, organisation and how to control yourself and your aggression...it will never happen though because of the ultra liberal nazis who always crawl out of the woodwork when something comes along they know nothing about, it probably infringes a childs human rights or some bollocks. With the amount of crime, drug abuse and general disorder that is rife within our young these days i would think this idea -were it to come to fruition- would only bring good results.

Id support the idea 100% providing the children wanted to take part obviously. I boxed whilst at school so didnt really miss the fact that it was removed from the cirriculum.

Although it has to be said that when we live in a world where some schools insist on children wearing safety goggles to play conkers, its not likely we'll see the introduction of boxing again

stujones wrote:Wasn't Darke refering to the Scottish government?

I have no idea.

neil r wrote:Id support the idea 100% providing the children wanted to take part obviously. I boxed whilst at school so didnt really miss the fact that it was removed from the cirriculum.

Although it has to be said that when we live in a world where some schools insist on children wearing safety goggles to play conkers, its not likely we'll see the introduction of boxing again

Perhaps a very thoughtful child has taken it upon himself to coat a large marble in brown paint, in order to make the solid marble look like a conker. hence the safety

Dynamite Dean Phillips wrote:

neil r wrote:Id support the idea 100% providing the children wanted to take part obviously. I boxed whilst at school so didnt really miss the fact that it was removed from the cirriculum.

Although it has to be said that when we live in a world where some schools insist on children wearing safety goggles to play conkers, its not likely we'll see the introduction of boxing again

Perhaps a very thoughtful child has taken it upon himself to coat a large marble in brown paint, in order to make the solid marble look like a conker. hence the safety

Dean, am I drunk or have you been at the Uhu?

Dynamite Dean Phillips wrote:

neil r wrote:Id support the idea 100% providing the children wanted to take part obviously. I boxed whilst at school so didnt really miss the fact that it was removed from the cirriculum.

Although it has to be said that when we live in a world where some schools insist on children wearing safety goggles to play conkers, its not likely we'll see the introduction of boxing again

Perhaps a very thoughtful child has taken it upon himself to coat a large marble in brown paint, in order to make the solid marble look like a conker. hence the safety

Dean mate thats just crazy talk . though perhaps its been done in the bash street kids right enough!! or maybe oor wullie done it!

steve689 wrote:Boxing teaches discipline, organisation and how to control yourself and your aggression...it will never happen though because of the ultra liberal nazis who always crawl out of the woodwork when something comes along they know nothing about, it probably infringes a childs human rights or some bollocks. With the amount of crime, drug abuse and general disorder that is rife within our young these days i would think this idea -were it to come to fruition- would only bring good results.

I am a teacher. I've been supply teaching for the last six weeks, for the first time ever, and it's been the hardest six weeks of my life. Teachers these days, in certain environments, have absolutely no respect from pupils or parents.

Steve is utterly correct when he mentions ultra liberal nazis. I understand all the negative arguments about, for instance, corporal punishment, but give me it back for one day and results would go up. The learning of, say, 24 kids would rocket if I was actually allowed to shut up two or three others. And for those who say, send them out, etc, you almost always end up with them back in front of you with a smile on their face.

Boxing as part of PE would be great, because skinny 14 year old lads who walk around threatening to 'bang out' everyone they come across - teachers included - could actually have a go and realise it isn't that easy. And by the time they had learned that, they would be better people with some discipline and respect.

This post sounds reactionary but I invite any of you to pick a rough local school and pay a visit. You will not believe your eyes.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:This post sounds reactionary but I invite any of you to pick a rough local school and pay a visit. You will not believe your eyes.

Doesn't sound reactionary to me! Although the last time I was on school grounds Tyson was an unbeaten prospect, through my job I come across many of the 'less ambitious' school leavers so what you say about their behavour doesn't shock me at all as I also see it on a daily basis.

Anyway, we all seem to pretty much be in agreement Sure we are all Boxing fans and love the sport and know of it's many benefits and positive sides, as opposed to certain sections of society who can only see the negative. Having said all that I still say that the points raised on this thread are very difficult to argue against.

Shame these 'liberal naziz' will stop this from happening as I truely believe this could benefit society and the sport itself. Thanks for the feedback guys, it's good to know others think the same as myself.

In a world full of war, murders, perverts, lies and corruption it always makes me so angry when people call Boxing barbaric. I wish more people would realise what a hugely positive sport it can be.

Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:

steve689 wrote:Boxing teaches discipline, organisation and how to control yourself and your aggression...it will never happen though because of the ultra liberal nazis who always crawl out of the woodwork when something comes along they know nothing about, it probably infringes a childs human rights or some bollocks. With the amount of crime, drug abuse and general disorder that is rife within our young these days i would think this idea -were it to come to fruition- would only bring good results.

I am a teacher. I've been supply teaching for the last six weeks, for the first time ever, and it's been the hardest six weeks of my life. Teachers these days, in certain environments, have absolutely no respect from pupils or parents.

Steve is utterly correct when he mentions ultra liberal nazis. I understand all the negative arguments about, for instance, corporal punishment, but give me it back for one day and results would go up. The learning of, say, 24 kids would rocket if I was actually allowed to shut up two or three others. And for those who say, send them out, etc, you almost always end up with them back in front of you with a smile on their face.

Boxing as part of PE would be great, because skinny 14 year old lads who walk around threatening to 'bang out' everyone they come across - teachers included - could actually have a go and realise it isn't that easy. And by the time they had learned that, they would be better people with some discipline and respect.

This post sounds reactionary but I invite any of you to pick a rough local school and pay a visit. You will not believe your eyes.

No, I would imagine it is quite accurate - my week experience in a school left me thinking - F that for a game of soldiers. This was at a rural school aswell.

Still might do the training - £6,000 not loaned is very tempting.

Thanks for your insight Ian, as a relative youth of 22 i was back at school six years ago and to be honest it was starting to get like it is now back then.....you could see it creeping in. Apparently now 1 in 4 children carry a knife to school My girlfriend was bullied so badly she had to leave and have a private tutor, she was kicked and punched none stop by girls and even boys but got through it, she puts it down to her strong faith but that is besides the point.

I would have loved to have a go at Boxing back in school and i think it can only bring good, while we are on the subject the government should look at Boxing clubs in the communities and realise that a few more here and there can really benefit a community through taking the unruly youths off the streets for a start.

How many boxers cite Boxing as a saviour of there life...the line "I would have been in jail now or even dead" is so cliched but painfully true.

If you are in the right place, teaching is one of the best jobs going. Apparently now they are throwing money at potential trainee teachers. You get paid to do the course, and shortage subjects (most of them are!) get even more than the 6 gs.

I even heard a rumour that they pay off student loans too.

steve689 wrote:
I would have loved to have a go at Boxing back in school and i think it can only bring good,

Me to, I hated 'team games', still do. The only sport I enjoyed at school was weight lifting and for my size I was very good at it.

But I would have loved to lace the gloves on though.