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So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:12
by jamamb
Who do Josh, Fury, and Wilder fight next?
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:14
by tigermoth87
Rematch needs to be in UK or neutral venue. America just cant be trusted not to be a robbery.
Seen it so many times. Whenever there's a big fight in the U.S., shenanigans occur with the judges.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:14
by Ruthless-RKO
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14
Rematch needs to be in UK or neutral venue. America just cant be trusted not to be a robbery.
Seen it so many times. Whenever there's a big fight in the U.S., shenanigans occur with the judges.
Scorecards in the UK are just as bad.
Take it to Africa or Tokyo..
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:15
by jamamb
Are we sure Fury and Wilder are rematching?
Does draw force a rematch clause?
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:17
by HomicideHenry
I believe Fury will be gunning for Joshua. After tonight it's without question that Fury earned that spot. I believe he'll win against Joshua, have all the remaining belts and probably retire. Why chase Wilder's WBC title when you obviously won it?
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:17
by DrDuke
Fury and Wilder must fight again. Period.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:17
by Nightmare Roy
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14
Rematch needs to be in UK or neutral venue. America just cant be trusted not to be a robbery.
Seen it so many times. Whenever there's a big fight in the U.S., shenanigans occur with the judges.
Same happens over here to be fair, boxing is just bent full stop. I'm guessing Fury is free to do what he wants now, big fight with AJ providing Hearn offers a fair deal unlike what they were offering Wilder, Hearn must be kicking himself they didn't make that fight.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:19
by tigermoth87
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:14
Rematch needs to be in UK or neutral venue. America just cant be trusted not to be a robbery.
Seen it so many times. Whenever there's a big fight in the U.S., shenanigans occur with the judges.
Scorecards in the UK are just as bad.
Take it to Africa or Tokyo..
For me UK is more dodgy referees than judges, although the judges can be dodgy too. Especially with Hearn's fights. I remember Burns getting a gift against Raymundo and Crolla a gift vs what's his name.
But refs are more of an issue in the UK, like, the ref in UK would have called for the bell before Fury even hit the canvas.
Japan would be a good shout. Or somewhere in the Middle East since it's a major fight--Dubai, Qatar or even send it to Saudi Arabia again.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:20
by deadpan
I would say aj-fury is worth more than aj-wilder right now.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:22
by Noxy
jamamb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:15
Are we sure Fury and Wilder are rematching?
Does draw force a rematch clause?
I don’t see how they can’t rematch.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:22
by DrDuke
deadpan wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:20
I would say aj-fury is worth more than aj-wilder right now.
Probably yes, cause Fury objectively looked better, than Wilder, and why the guy with 3 belts should fight the worse of those two? Wilder is now valuable only with his belt, which luckily to him was retained.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:24
by jamamb
Noxy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:22
jamamb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:15
Are we sure Fury and Wilder are rematching?
Does draw force a rematch clause?
I don’t see how they can’t rematch.
well could aj be more lucrative? and maybe fury feels like he already beat wilder
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:25
by Steveh583
Fury just sells a fight so well. The best since audley Harrison. If I owned a car showroom, they are who I'd want front of house.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:28
by Noxy
jamamb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:24
Noxy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:22
jamamb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:15
Are we sure Fury and Wilder are rematching?
Does draw force a rematch clause?
I don’t see how they can’t rematch.
well could aj be more lucrative? and maybe fury feels like he already beat wilder
You’re right. Let’s see what the money men come up with. AJ vs Fury in the UK, why not.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:35
by tigermoth87
Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:25
Fury just sells a fight so well. The best since audley Harrison. If I owned a car showroom, they are who I'd want front of house.
Harrison was better because he was awful yet somehow convinced everyone this was gonna be his moment.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:36
by Oiky
Fury v wilder in U.K.
Hearn and Joshua want f all to do with fury
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:48
by Steveh583
tigermoth87 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:35
Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:25
Fury just sells a fight so well. The best since audley Harrison. If I owned a car showroom, they are who I'd want front of house.
Harrison was better because he was awful yet somehow convinced everyone this was gonna be his moment.
He'd def be the one hitting those targets every month lol. Making that commission.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 02:56
by jamamb
Oiky wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:36
Hearn and Joshua want f all to do with fury
not sure of that
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 03:05
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:12
Who do Josh, Fury, and Wilder fight next?
Ideally AJ vs Fury next Spring, with Wilder to get the winner.
Fury vs Wilder 2 or AJ vs Wilder would be good too.
Just hope the Round robin continues amongst these 3 basically in some form or another. Fury or AJ vs Luis Ortiz would be a solid in the meantime opponent if either one isn't involved in one of the true megafights.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 04:14
by Grilling Machine
They both think they won, as per after all draws, so they'll be reluctant to fight again and risk officially losing. I fully agree with the concept of draws, but this is always a problem.
So let Fury fight AJ and we'll all be happy. Wilder can fight Miller. That's my preferred outcome.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 04:17
by HomicideHenry
Grilling Machine wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 04:14
They both think they won, as per after all draws, so they'll be reluctant to fight again and risk officially losing. I fully agree with the concept of draws, but this is always a problem.
So let Fury fight AJ and we'll all be happy. Wilder can fight Miller. That's my preferred outcome.
The best of Britain and the best of America, I love it. That ought to be a double header and be called MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 04:19
by Oiky
jamamb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:56
Oiky wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:36
Hearn and Joshua want f all to do with fury
not sure of that
Watch all their nonsense talk and games over the coming weeks
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 04:27
by Nightmare Roy
Oiky wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 04:19
jamamb wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:56
Oiky wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:36
Hearn and Joshua want f all to do with fury
not sure of that
Watch all their nonsense talk and games over the coming weeks
If they start offering a flat fee, as they have with Wilder, they don't want the fight, if they offer a fair percentage then they do, that's how I'll judge them, 100% they are fighting Whyte next though.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 05:02
by Grilling Machine
I think Whyte's a mistake for Joshua at this point. Not because he'd lose — I think he'd win, but because it might well turn into a hard workout that puts a few miles on his clock for nothing. He's already beaten Whyte. By all means rematch him someday, but save the best version of yourself for your biggest challenges.
The time for Fury and/or Wilder is now. Joshua needs to demand this from Hearn with the threat of ditching him otherwise.
Re: So what is next?
Posted: 02 Dec 2018, 05:33
by Stuarty
I went for a couple of hours sleep but I've still woken up raging! The judge who had it for Wilder needs fuckin strung up!