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who wins?

could we see it next? would be huge in uk and im told fury and wilder were very non commital about rematching

The Gypsy King will dominate here as well.

Another fight fury dominates and gets robbed on the cards

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:57 Another fight fury dominates and gets robbed on the cards

He'll be robbed in any case, no doubt about that. It's the question, how he'll be robbed though. Hopefully only narrowed scores, not a taken away win.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:57 Another fight fury dominates and gets robbed on the cards

That's how I see it, absolutely no way he gets the nod on a matchroom card.

Ref would of stopped the fight if he goes down like that versus Joshua.

But its good for Fury that he has this Wilder getup on record now.

I dont think Joshua has the angles to catch Fury like Wilder did. But he does have the best uppercut in the division that Fury could duck into.

DrDuke wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:00

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:57 Another fight fury dominates and gets robbed on the cards

He'll be robbed in any case, no doubt about that. It's the question, how he'll be robbed though. Hopefully only narrowed scores, not a taken away win.

No one will beat AJ on the scorecards in the uk imo. He's the establishments favourite

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:02

Steveh583 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 02:57 Another fight fury dominates and gets robbed on the cards

That's how I see it, absolutely no way he gets the nod on a matchroom card.

I expect it'd be similar to this fight. AJ is kinda slow and plodding, and waits too much. Fury is Fury. He clowns around, and tries to stink the joint out. If you let him, he'll fool people into thinking he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:04 I expect it'd be similar to this fight. AJ is kinda slow and plodding, and waits too much. Fury is Fury. He clowns around, and tries to stink the joint out. If you let him, he'll fool people into thinking he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Has Fury banged you're Mrs?

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:07

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:04 I expect it'd be similar to this fight. AJ is kinda slow and plodding, and waits too much. Fury is Fury. He clowns around, and tries to stink the joint out. If you let him, he'll fool people into thinking he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Has Fury banged you're Mrs?

Nope. I just don't f*cking like the guy.

Not sure really. AJ is more predictable so part of me thinks that Fury would be better suited facing AJ than Wilder.

On the other hand though AJ has really improved the speed and accuracy of his left hook lately - which was the punch i was shouting at Wilder to throw given Fury ducks and slips to his right.

AJ/Wilder/Fury is an interesting dynamic though- it's a fun era of HWs.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:07

gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:04 I expect it'd be similar to this fight. AJ is kinda slow and plodding, and waits too much. Fury is Fury. He clowns around, and tries to stink the joint out. If you let him, he'll fool people into thinking he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Has Fury banged you're Mrs?

I don't know how anyone after tonight in all honesty could believe Joshua could beat Wilder let alone Fury. Fury answered alot of questions tonight. Many wondered, "What if Klitschko let his hands go?", and I believe that Fury would have beaten him. He beat Wilder the most aggressive Heavyweight in the division. Those two men are the two best in the world, and it shows that IF Fury was the 2015 version he'd of never been touched.

RKY wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 03:14AJ/Wilder/Fury is an interesting dynamic though- it's a fun era of HWs.

Yeah, whatever anyone says about their individual merits, I'm fully on board their collective heavyweight bus.

I think Fury could outbox Joshua over 12, but not in a way that he'd be given the win. He'd have to show more offence than usual to get the judges onside, and that tips it in Joshua's favour. I expect a mostly dull fight, but I want to see it. Joshua doesn't have the best chin, but he's sturdier than Wilder, and if Fury doesn't want to lose then he has to get uncomfortably close to the fire.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 04:02 I don't know how anyone after tonight in all honesty could believe Joshua could beat Wilder let alone Fury. Fury answered alot of questions tonight. Many wondered, "What if Klitschko let his hands go?", and I believe that Fury would have beaten him. He beat Wilder the most aggressive Heavyweight in the division. Those two men are the two best in the world, and it shows that IF Fury was the 2015 version he'd of never been touched.

easy to see aj beating wilder, he can box better then him and hits plenty hard to stop him

I don't know if Joshua can get up from the kind of shots Fury took in all honesty. Sure Klitschko downed him and he got up to win, but there's a world of difference between getting knocked stiff by an older, inactive ex champion and getting decked by a puncher like Wilder with that kind of hand speed.

Speaking for myself, I'd rather take that left from a tired Wilder than the shot that put Joshua down. Joshua struggles to recover quickly, but that punch was a belter.

Wlad couldn't land it on Fury, but it's fair to say he wasn't as hungry in training. Joshua-Fury would answer all remaining questions.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 04:14 I don't know if Joshua can get up from the kind of shots Fury took in all honesty. Sure Klitschko downed him and he got up to win, but there's a world of difference between getting knocked stiff by an older, inactive ex champion and getting decked by a puncher like Wilder with that kind of hand speed.

aj could very well take out wilder first, wilder being a big puncher doesnt mean other guys arent major bangers too

only 1 guy aj beat went the distance with him, same as wilder and the guys he beat.

Last night made me think Joshua beats them both. Wilder especially, who I was disappointed in. Tyson was excellent.

Joshua stops Fury imo.

We won’t find out for sometime either way! Rematch first

Joshua will be happy fighting Whyte again and avoiding these two.

AJ is made for Fury. He doesn't hit as hard as Wilder and more predictable. Fury would keep him at distance like he did Wilder.

I'd say AJ.

Fury may be able to outbox Wilder and make him look like a novice but Joshua is actually a good boxer and can also punch.

Before last night I thought that AJ and Wilder was evens and my thoughts on a winner could change daily. Really was not sure. Before last night I did not know if the Wlad fight flattered Fury and was not completely buying into him being this boxing master who would toy with AJ. I did not discount it but needed to see more than that one big night.

Now I think AJ takes Wilder as he looked the big puncher we know but also looked physically weak, small and stunned far too easily. That is the big take away for me as we knew he could be outboxed, but that he was so tired so easily and was clearly hurt when caught himself. Of course he again showed that he will keep going, keep trying and has dynamite in his fists.

But as for AJ v Fury. Forget it. Fury boxes his ears off. AJ is a robot and his boxing style is almost painting by numbers. Big heart, strong, powerful, but I think Fury plays with him

lillywhite14 wrote: ↑02 Dec 2018, 04:34Last night made me think Joshua beats them both. Wilder especially, who I was disappointed in. Tyson was excellent.

You know it's funny — before this fight I felt that Joshua was gonna be in the shade afterwards, but now I find myself putting him in the limelight!

I usually agree with Toby, but I think AJ has too much in his favour versus Fury. Those judges will only score for Fury if he visibly hurts Joshua, and I can't see him winning with that proviso.