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who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 16:45
by jamamb
who do you think?

i could see maybe duhaupas, helenius, takam , etc

then maybe povetkin or parker

then aj?


what are your thoughts. or do they throw him right in vs aj?

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 17:13
by ironbeard
I think that he has the chops to handle Parker and Povetkin but they would both be risky.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 17:19
by gilgamesh
Either a guy like Dominic Breazeale or maybe Dereck Chisora. Or possibly Gerald Washington.

I'd want to start him with a guy that's particularly big, but not overly dangerous just to get him used to the size disadvantage he'll be having to deal with on a regular basis.

He's such a talent though I wouldn't waste much of his time. Washington or Breazeale to start things, and then straight on to Wilder. Obviously Wilder stands a strong chance of knocking him out, but I think Usyk would outbox him thoroughly so long as he doesn't get caught. You'd see an actual Boxing lesson given to Wilder, not a showboating lesson.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:05
by Onetimeonly
The best he can get.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:09
by oogiebe
ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 17:13 I think that he has the chops to handle Parker and Povetkin but they would both be risky.
Povetkin is done. I like the idea of Usyk v Parker. Gives him a sizable opponent who he can, IMHO outbox and outpunch.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:11
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:09
ironbeard wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 17:13 I think that he has the chops to handle Parker and Povetkin but they would both be risky.
Povetkin is done. I like the idea of Usyk v Parker. Gives him a sizable opponent who he can, IMHO outbox and outpunch.
Yeah Parker would be a good first fight for him. Someone in or around the top 10 in any case.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:12
by tiny_acres
Gerald Washington is a good start.
Chisora after that
Then Miller

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:17
by Onetimeonly
Washington would be a massive waste of time.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:20
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:17 Washington would be a massive waste of time.
Agreed. Parker would be a faster track to a title shot, and to me, very winnable.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21
by Ricky
He's no spring chicken. Take AJs belts in April.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21
by oogiebe
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21 He's no spring chicken. Take AJs belts in April.
LOL! I don't think so.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:23
by ewenhay
I wouldn't be against a Ukraine v Russia showdown though as a first fight. Could be spicy.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:25
by Ricky
oogiebe wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21 He's no spring chicken. Take AJs belts in April.
LOL! I don't think so.
?

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:30
by oogiebe
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:25
oogiebe wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21 He's no spring chicken. Take AJs belts in April.
LOL! I don't think so.
?
I assume you were referring to Usyk. 1: He's not just going to be able to beat AJ without at least a couple of fights at HW to test the waters, and 2: He is just entering his prime at 31 y.o. Not old for the higher weight classes. If you were referring to another fighter, then I'll reconsider.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:44
by Enlightened-One
The longest serving mandatory challenger of the history of the sport - Fres Oquendo :lol:

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:45
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:44 Fres Oquendo :lol:
LOL! Right! Another bloke who should go away already.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:45
by gilgamesh
Enlightened-One wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:44 The longest serving mandatory challenger of the history of the sport - Fres Oquendo :lol:
Have they ever rescheduled Oquendo for his next to-be-cancelled title fight yet? :lol:

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:47
by Cyclops
Doesn’t Charr have some sort of belt, still?

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:48
by oogiebe
clopixolacuphase wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:47 Doesn’t Charr have some sort of belt, still?
THat may have been the last cancelled Fres fight.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:51
by gilgamesh
clopixolacuphase wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:47 Doesn’t Charr have some sort of belt, still?
He had a belt?

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:53
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:51
clopixolacuphase wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:47 Doesn’t Charr have some sort of belt, still?
He had a belt?
A WBA belt if memory serves me.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:54
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:53
gilgamesh wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:51
clopixolacuphase wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:47 Doesn’t Charr have some sort of belt, still?
He had a belt?
A WBA belt if memory serves me.
WBA Interim International Crackerjack box title?

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 18:55
by oogiebe
gilgamesh wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:54
oogiebe wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:53
gilgamesh wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:51

He had a belt?
A WBA belt if memory serves me.
WBA Interim International Crackerjack box title?
Just looked. WBA Heavyweight Championship via win over Ustinov, so yes..you are correct.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 19:07
by Ricky
oogiebe wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:30
RKY wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:25
oogiebe wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:21

LOL! I don't think so.
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I assume you were referring to Usyk. 1: He's not just going to be able to beat AJ without at least a couple of fights at HW to test the waters, and 2: He is just entering his prime at 31 y.o. Not old for the higher weight classes. If you were referring to another fighter, then I'll reconsider.
Usyk would box Joshua's ears off tomorrow. Levels.

Re: who should usyk start his hw campaign against?

Posted: 03 Dec 2018, 19:08
by Ricky
ewenhay wrote: 03 Dec 2018, 18:23 I wouldn't be against a Ukraine v Russia showdown though as a first fight. Could be spicy.
He just smoked gassiev in russia.