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would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 18:13
by jamamb
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Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 18:14
by bigjack
jamamb wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:13?
If Fury had won then yes,maybe not now though.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 18:21
by littlepug
Lewis v Bruno tops that list for me but Fury v Joshua would run it close

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 18:31
by HomicideHenry
bigjack wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:14
jamamb wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:13?
If Fury had won then yes,maybe not now though.
He did win. :doh:

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 18:36
by bigjack
HomicideHenry wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:31
bigjack wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:14
jamamb wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:13?
If Fury had won then yes,maybe not now though.
He did win. :doh:
Belt round his waist ?,i thought he won too.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 18:47
by deadpan
AJ v Fury feels bigger AJ v Wilder. Deontay saw his stock fall and Furys rise in abundance when Tyson got up in the 12th. He is now the man who cant be stopped (though he probably can be). Plus Fury's recent story and conduct after the final bell makes him a lot more marketable. And his inevitable drubbing of Joshua in the pressers would generate massive publicity.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 19:06
by HomicideHenry
deadpan wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:47 AJ v Fury feels bigger AJ v Wilder. Deontay saw his stock fall and Furys rise in abundance when Tyson got up in the 12th. He is now the man who cant be stopped (though he probably can be). Plus Fury's recent story and conduct after the final bell makes him a lot more marketable. And his inevitable drubbing of Joshua in the pressers would generate massive publicity.
Absolutely.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 19:09
by Stuarty
If the judges done their job properly and he had the green belt round his waist then yeah. Still a massive fight though.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 19:19
by skanksta
Two Brits as the No 1 and 2 in the world, - check.
(almost all) the belts - check.
Lineal "people's champ" vs Unified Champ and No1 - check.
At heavyweight !!

Of course it is - It's the biggest fight since Ali vs Frazier 1.
It's one of the biggest HW fights in history - easily the biggest in the UK. :box:

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 20:08
by sparrow_1
deadpan wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:47 AJ v Fury feels bigger AJ v Wilder. Deontay saw his stock fall and Furys rise in abundance when Tyson got up in the 12th. He is now the man who cant be stopped (though he probably can be). Plus Fury's recent story and conduct after the final bell makes him a lot more marketable. And his inevitable drubbing of Joshua in the pressers would generate massive publicity.

Not that it matters much if you got clobbered off either, but.......who is considered to hit harder, Wilder or AJ?

I thought Wilder was considered as the hardest one-puncher out there (notwithstanding the many, many contenders on his record for whom the word 'tomato can' might be considered a promotion)...but as you say, the Bronze Bomber's stock fell slightly when the Morcambe man pulled off his Lazarus impression.....

So who hits harder, Wilder or AJ? :maybe:

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 04 Dec 2018, 20:15
by sparrow_1
skanksta wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 19:19 Two Brits as the No 1 and 2 in the world, - check.
(almost all) the belts - check.
Lineal "people's champ" vs Unified Champ and No1 - check.
At heavyweight !!

Of course it is - It's the biggest fight since Ali vs Frazier 1.
It's one of the biggest HW fights in history - easily the biggest in the UK. :box:

I disagree. I'm a British fight fan and have been for a few years but the guys like Frazier and Ali.... they took hard competitive fights against talented operators, regularly - in a more competitive era. There's no comparison whatsoever to be made between those guys, Joshua and a man that ballooned up 10 stone and came back against, essentially, a gawky banger.

Look at Frazier and Ali. Did these guys have all that many utter stiffs on their records as their modern day counterparts?

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 04:08
by Verdi
I think Fury would wind Joshua up something rotten in the build-up.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 04:42
by samwbr
Verdi wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:08 I think Fury would wind Joshua up something rotten in the build-up.
How many more times can he call him a big stiff idiot or a weightlifter? Doubt Joshua would bite at all, it's pretty tired material.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 05:40
by lillywhite14
sparrow_1 wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 20:08
deadpan wrote: 04 Dec 2018, 18:47 AJ v Fury feels bigger AJ v Wilder. Deontay saw his stock fall and Furys rise in abundance when Tyson got up in the 12th. He is now the man who cant be stopped (though he probably can be). Plus Fury's recent story and conduct after the final bell makes him a lot more marketable. And his inevitable drubbing of Joshua in the pressers would generate massive publicity.

Not that it matters much if you got clobbered off either, but.......who is considered to hit harder, Wilder or AJ?

I thought Wilder was considered as the hardest one-puncher out there (notwithstanding the many, many contenders on his record for whom the word 'tomato can' might be considered a promotion)...but as you say, the Bronze Bomber's stock fell slightly when the Morcambe man pulled off his Lazarus impression.....

So who hits harder, Wilder or AJ? :maybe:
One punch power it’s probably Wilder. Joshua hits you more often though and has more variation. Wilder put Fury down with a brace of shots. Joshua will be unloading everything if he tags Fury at any point. He also has the advantage of strength and physicality over Fury so no walking him back etc

Fury is a very hard nights work for Joshua without doubt but let’s not pretend it doesn’t work the other way. I think Joshua is considerably better than Wilder and Wilder gave Fury hell.

People chatting about Fury taking Joshua to school are off their head imo.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 05:42
by lillywhite14
Verdi wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:08 I think Fury would wind Joshua up something rotten in the build-up.
I don’t think it’ll be all that bad to be honest. It won’t need selling so the chat won’t be needed. I could see Fury attempting to bait him, Joshua laughing and refusing to bite then Fury going respectful, ‘two great champions’ route etc

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 06:15
by Cyclops
samwbr wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:42
Verdi wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:08 I think Fury would wind Joshua up something rotten in the build-up.
How many more times can he call him a big stiff idiot or a weightlifter? Doubt Joshua would bite at all, it's pretty tired material.
He's got plenty of ammo. AJ swerving the Wilder fight which Fury then subsequently took instead. AJ pretending to live at his mums when really he lives in Dubai. The superior black race stuff. AJ going life and death with a much older already beaten Wladimir. I'm sure there's plenty more. I've always been a big AJ supporter and have been harshly critical of Fury and his family in the past but he really has the upper hand here psychologically. Joshua can't and shouldn't be happy that Fury essentially got to Wilder first. The casual fans who make up the bulk of the PPV market may not be so forgiving of these things.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 06:38
by lillywhite14
clopixolacuphase wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 06:15
samwbr wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:42
Verdi wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:08 I think Fury would wind Joshua up something rotten in the build-up.
How many more times can he call him a big stiff idiot or a weightlifter? Doubt Joshua would bite at all, it's pretty tired material.
He's got plenty of ammo. AJ swerving the Wilder fight which Fury then subsequently took instead. AJ pretending to live at his mums when really he lives in Dubai. The superior black race stuff. AJ going life and death with a much older already beaten Wladimir. I'm sure there's plenty more. I've always been a big AJ supporter and have been harshly critical of Fury and his family in the past but he really has the upper hand here psychologically. Joshua can't and shouldn't be happy that Fury essentially got to Wilder first. The casual fans who make up the bulk of the PPV market may not be so forgiving of these things.
I’ve always thought it would be easy to get under Fury’s skin. I’m not suggesting it should happen by any means of course because it’s out of order but if you slag off travellers, his family and their lifestyle etc, he’d lose his head completely.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 07:05
by Cyclops
lillywhite14 wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 06:38
clopixolacuphase wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 06:15
samwbr wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:42

How many more times can he call him a big stiff idiot or a weightlifter? Doubt Joshua would bite at all, it's pretty tired material.
He's got plenty of ammo. AJ swerving the Wilder fight which Fury then subsequently took instead. AJ pretending to live at his mums when really he lives in Dubai. The superior black race stuff. AJ going life and death with a much older already beaten Wladimir. I'm sure there's plenty more. I've always been a big AJ supporter and have been harshly critical of Fury and his family in the past but he really has the upper hand here psychologically. Joshua can't and shouldn't be happy that Fury essentially got to Wilder first. The casual fans who make up the bulk of the PPV market may not be so forgiving of these things.
I’ve always thought it would be easy to get under Fury’s skin. I’m not suggesting it should happen by any means of course because it’s out of order but if you slag off travellers, his family and their lifestyle etc, he’d lose his head completely.
Maybe. That would be an absolute PR disaster for Anthony though wouldn't it? I think only the most foolish of boxers would go down that road.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 07:11
by Spiker
Well it should happen because if and when AJ does a job on Fury it will expose wilders shortcomings. I don’t think wilder punches much harder than aj he certainly isn’t as accurate. I’m betting Joshua could put Fury down and nail him as soon as he gets back up he’s far to accurate. Wilder fights like a caveman in comparison. So In answer yes biggest fight bigger than true Brit Lewis v Bruno

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 07:17
by lillywhite14
clopixolacuphase wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 07:05
lillywhite14 wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 06:38
clopixolacuphase wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 06:15

He's got plenty of ammo. AJ swerving the Wilder fight which Fury then subsequently took instead. AJ pretending to live at his mums when really he lives in Dubai. The superior black race stuff. AJ going life and death with a much older already beaten Wladimir. I'm sure there's plenty more. I've always been a big AJ supporter and have been harshly critical of Fury and his family in the past but he really has the upper hand here psychologically. Joshua can't and shouldn't be happy that Fury essentially got to Wilder first. The casual fans who make up the bulk of the PPV market may not be so forgiving of these things.
I’ve always thought it would be easy to get under Fury’s skin. I’m not suggesting it should happen by any means of course because it’s out of order but if you slag off travellers, his family and their lifestyle etc, he’d lose his head completely.
Maybe. That would be an absolute PR disaster for Anthony though wouldn't it? I think only the most foolish of boxers would go down that road.
Personally I’d spit on anyone who chatted such bollocks, but travellers and gypsies are the last ethnic minority in this country that are seen as something of as an open target and fair game. I don’t think the backlash would be that big unfortunately.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 07:18
by lillywhite14
Spiker wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 07:11 Well it should happen because if and when AJ does a job on Fury it will expose wilders shortcomings. I don’t think wilder punches much harder than aj he certainly isn’t as accurate. I’m betting Joshua could put Fury down and nail him as soon as he gets back up he’s far to accurate. Wilder fights like a caveman in comparison. So In answer yes biggest fight bigger than true Brit Lewis v Bruno
I get the feeling Joshua fights Wilder first anyway. If he destroys him then the Fury fight isn’t as big though.

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 07:20
by samwbr
clopixolacuphase wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 06:15
samwbr wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:42
Verdi wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 04:08 I think Fury would wind Joshua up something rotten in the build-up.
How many more times can he call him a big stiff idiot or a weightlifter? Doubt Joshua would bite at all, it's pretty tired material.
He's got plenty of ammo. AJ swerving the Wilder fight which Fury then subsequently took instead. AJ pretending to live at his mums when really he lives in Dubai. The superior black race stuff. AJ going life and death with a much older already beaten Wladimir. I'm sure there's plenty more. I've always been a big AJ supporter and have been harshly critical of Fury and his family in the past but he really has the upper hand here psychologically. Joshua can't and shouldn't be happy that Fury essentially got to Wilder first. The casual fans who make up the bulk of the PPV market may not be so forgiving of these things.
Does he live in Dubai?

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 07:42
by littlepug
Spiker wrote: 05 Dec 2018, 07:11 Well it should happen because if and when AJ does a job on Fury it will expose wilders shortcomings. I don’t think wilder punches much harder than aj he certainly isn’t as accurate. I’m betting Joshua could put Fury down and nail him as soon as he gets back up he’s far to accurate. Wilder fights like a caveman in comparison. So In answer yes biggest fight bigger than true Brit Lewis v Bruno
Bear in mind that every man and his dog, young and old all knew about the Bruno/Lewis fight, would it be the same for Fury/Joshua ?

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 07:56
by smiling assassin
Yeah it would be the biggest fight due to the era. When Benn Vs Eubank and Lewis vs Bruno boxed there was no social media to drum up the interest. Social media rules everything now and would make the world and its mother takes notice of Fury vs AJ

Re: would fury vs aj next be the biggest british fight ever?

Posted: 05 Dec 2018, 08:14
by Avitar
Wouldn't say it would be the biggest British fight ever I think that goes to Benn vs Eubank 2 supposedly half a billion watched that fight