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Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 07:57**

He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 08:18**

Officially Wilder didn't lose and is still champ, so he has no reason to make excuses, that fact he feels he has to speaks volumes.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:18**

Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.

The majority of the boxing world does have “it in for him.”

Only FMJ had a larger horde of haters in recent years.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:39**

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:18 The majority of the boxing world does have “it in for him.”

Only FMJ had a larger horde of haters in recent years.

Thats irrelevant, personally I have no gripe with Wilder. I've watched it four times now and even giving Wilder the benefit of the doubt in the close rounds I still had him losing. Thats why he is making excuses, deep down he knows he lost too.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:39**

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:18
Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.
The majority of the boxing world does have “it in for him.”

Only FMJ had a larger horde of haters in recent years.

Fury had millions!

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:43**

Made a mongoo out of himself uploading that video on twitter about the count being too long...

And all his broken arm rubbish

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:45**

ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:18
Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.
The majority of the boxing world does have “it in for him.”

Only FMJ had a larger horde of haters in recent years.

Who exactly? Al haymon, Shelly finkel and Lou dibella basically ARE the boxing establishment. Showtime back him.... the judges certainly didn't have it in for him..... I'm struggling to see it myself. Other fighters would kill for those sort of vendetta's. Also, no one can ever clearly define to me what exactly a "hater" is. It's just an expression people use when they can't debate constructively.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:50**

In the realm of boxers excuses, his are pretty minor. He said it was a close fight. No fighter in history wearing his shoes wouldn't have thought they won.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:51**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:39
ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:18
Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.
The majority of the boxing world does have “it in for him.”

Only FMJ had a larger horde of haters in recent years.
Fury had millions!

Great point. Broner as well off the top of my head.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:55**

If the tables were turned and Wilder was knocked down twice but had won pretty much every other round do you honestly think he would say he lost or drew it? No of course not, Quite rightly he would point to all the rounds he won and argue he won the fight on points.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:56**

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:50 In the realm of boxers excuses, his are pretty minor. He said it was a close fight. No fighter in history wearing his shoes wouldn't have thought they won.

I have no problem with him thinking he won at all. it's just all the excuses about losing weight after the weigh in, the broken arm, the biase ref etc. Like he's effort alone wasn't enough (which it wasn't)

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 09:58**

Being disliked is better than not being known I guess.

I love that Fury has now attracted more casuals. I said all along away from boxing and certain influences, he always seemed a genuinely nice bloke.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 10:00**

Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:56
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:50 In the realm of boxers excuses, his are pretty minor. He said it was a close fight. No fighter in history wearing his shoes wouldn't have thought they won.
I have no problem with him thinking he won at all. it's just all the excuses about losing weight after the weigh in, the broken arm, the biase ref etc. Like he's effort alone wasn't enough (which it wasn't)

Yeah, par for the course. Spend a few minutes with Ross Thompson if you want some real excuses. To be fair to those annoyed, I never pay attention to post fight comments from fighters.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 10:10**

Even Mike Tyson still argues that Douglas got a long count and he shouldn't have lost.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 10:54**

Controversial wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:55 If the tables were turned and Wilder was knocked down twice but had won pretty much every other round do you honestly think he would say he lost or drew it? No of course not, Quite rightly he would point to all the rounds he won and argue he won the fight on points.

No fighter in history , being either guy, would think they lost. It was that kind of fight.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 10:57**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:39
ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:18
Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.
The majority of the boxing world does have “it in for him.”

Only FMJ had a larger horde of haters in recent years.
Fury had millions!

For very good reasons. To his credit, he has redeemed himself. I am a fan, once again.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 11:02**

Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:45
ironbeard wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:18
Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.
The majority of the boxing world does have “it in for him.”

Only FMJ had a larger horde of haters in recent years.
Who exactly? Al haymon, Shelly finkel and Lou dibella basically ARE the boxing establishment. Showtime back him.... the judges certainly didn't have it in for him..... I'm struggling to see it myself. Other fighters would kill for those sort of vendetta's. Also, no one can ever clearly define to me what exactly a "hater" is. It's just an expression people use when they can't debate constructively.

I did not say that having legions of haters was a bad thing. Look what it did for FMJ.

Wilder is far more popular than he has ever been, mainly based on hater love.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 11:16**

Ive not been reading too much of his excuses tbh. I'd rather focus on what was a great comeback and performance from Fury who has shown more dignity in getting robbed than Wilder has in getting a favour! If he wants to make excuses that's his prerogative but it's just making him look a bit daft IMO.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 11:28**

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:50 In the realm of boxers excuses, his are pretty minor. He said it was a close fight. No fighter in history wearing his shoes wouldn't have thought they won.

He looked like he thought he'd lost when the bout ended. Very subdued.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 11:36**

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 11:28
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:50 In the realm of boxers excuses, his are pretty minor. He said it was a close fight. No fighter in history wearing his shoes wouldn't have thought they won.
He looked like he thought he'd lost when the bout ended. Very subdued.

He may well have just been in shock that fury got up. I don't know why he'd think he lost, virtually nothing happened in over half the rounds.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 12:49**

Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.

There IS that narrative floating about among American black fighters. Particularly the Mayweather Boxing Gym. It's disgusting. They just can't handle the fact a white guy beat a black champions ass. There is rampant "black supremacy" in sports.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 12:55**

Stuarty wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 11:16 what was a great comeback and performance from Fury who has shown more dignity in getting robbed than Wilder has in getting a favour!

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 12:56**

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 11:28
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 09:50 In the realm of boxers excuses, his are pretty minor. He said it was a close fight. No fighter in history wearing his shoes wouldn't have thought they won.
He looked like he thought he'd lost when the bout ended. Very subdued.

Exactly,total contrast to Fury,who was certain he's get the decision.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 13:01**

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 12:49
Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2018, 07:57 He's let himself down a bit with his reaction to the draw imo. It seems to be non-stop excuses and whining from him. It's making it look like he knows he lost that fight. Fury took it on the Chin (literally lol), wished everyone well and started singing American pie. I can't help but wonder if soon we will get a "he only got a draw because he was white..." type of narrative from wilder. Which I don't like to say, but the guy obv thinks the whole world has it in for him.
There IS that narrative floating about among American black fighters. Particularly the Mayweather Boxing Gym. It's disgusting. They just can't handle the fact a white guy beat a black champions ass. There is rampant "black supremacy" in sports.

There is also the narrative that there are a sh!tload of people running around butthurt because they literally willed themselves into seeing what they were hoping for the other night.

It goes both ways.

Posted: **07 Dec 2018, 13:07**

"Willed themselves into seeing something that wasn't there"..... So 96% of boxing fans, fighters, trainers, promoters, managers, etc are all victims of wishful thinking? That they imagined Fury won?

You lost all credibility.

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