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Breaducce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:43 Loma's a great fighter but I'm just not buying this best thing since slice bread narrative that is perpetuated by a lot of Loma's fans and the boxing media. The guy very skilled and no one disputes that but he continues to be sold as the second coming when he obviously is not. We have seen better fighters then him come and go. If people would push the breaks on these overblown expectations and narratives and just let the guy fight it would be the best thing that will ever happen for his career.

victor-romeo wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:54

Breaducce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:43 Loma's a great fighter but I'm just not buying this best thing since slice bread narrative that is perpetuated by a lot of Loma's fans and the boxing media. The guy very skilled and no one disputes that but he continues to be sold as the second coming when he obviously is not. We have seen better fighters then him come and go. If people would push the breaks on these overblown expectations and narratives and just let the guy fight it would be the best thing that will ever happen for his career.

Loma is a 2 time olympic gold medalist , 3 weight division champion and boxing innovator, who coming off shoulder surgery not fighting at his best weight beat a larger fighter by wide score ..Loma is one of the better fighters I have ever seen..The thing with Loma is he had the long amateur career is already 30 years old has about 2 good years in him. So he enjoy him while he lasts you won't see a special fighter like this again ..in a long while

victor-romeo wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:54

Breaducce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:43 Loma's a great fighter but I'm just not buying this best thing since slice bread narrative that is perpetuated by a lot of Loma's fans and the boxing media. The guy very skilled and no one disputes that but he continues to be sold as the second coming when he obviously is not. We have seen better fighters then him come and go. If people would push the breaks on these overblown expectations and narratives and just let the guy fight it would be the best thing that will ever happen for his career.

Loma is a 2 time olympic gold medalist , 3 weight division champion and boxing innovator, who coming off shoulder surgery not fighting at his best weight beat a larger fighter by wide score ..Loma is one of the better fighters I have ever seen..The thing with Loma is he had the long amateur career is already 30 years old has about 2 good years in him. So he enjoy him while he lasts you won't see a special fighter like this again ..in a long while

ironbeard wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:36 Could be the Linares fight taught him to be more cautious at 135.

victor-romeo wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:54

Breaducce wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:43 Loma's a great fighter but I'm just not buying this best thing since slice bread narrative that is perpetuated by a lot of Loma's fans and the boxing media. The guy very skilled and no one disputes that but he continues to be sold as the second coming when he obviously is not. We have seen better fighters then him come and go. If people would push the breaks on these overblown expectations and narratives and just let the guy fight it would be the best thing that will ever happen for his career.

Loma is a 2 time olympic gold medalist , 3 weight division champion and boxing innovator, who coming off shoulder surgery not fighting at his best weight beat a larger fighter by wide score ..Loma is one of the better fighters I have ever seen..The thing with Loma is he had the long amateur career is already 30 years old has about 2 good years in him. So he enjoy him while he lasts you won't see a special fighter like this again ..in a long while

jamamb wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 02:48 i agree about that, and we saw last fight clearly he is human too

but i think regardless of how good someone is thought to be and may or may not be, injuries like that an make a difference, especially when its a shoulder , he just seemed very tentative to me and even when he was clearly in control and seemingly not getting much threat from pedraza

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 14:46 Lomachenko is fast, accurate and has some pop in his shots.

But he's not a true KO puncher.

At 135, don't expect him to stop any of the top division fighters.

I don't believe that the shoulder surgery hindered Lomachenko's performance.

It was Pedraza's style, unwillingness to mix it up for long and his boxing smarts that kept him around to the final bell.

Lomachenko would have shined and scored a KO if he had faced the more aggressive, defensively deficient Ray Beltran, as originally expected.

And as some have already opined here, Lomachenko is not the greatest thing since Robinson, despite what the TR/ESPN hype train desperately wants to convince you.

Elite lightweights will seriously challenge him. But outside of Mikey Garcia, are there any true elites in that division?

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 14:46 Lomachenko is fast, accurate and has some pop in his shots.

But he's not a true KO puncher.

At 135, don't expect him to stop any of the top division fighters.

I don't believe that the shoulder surgery hindered Lomachenko's performance.

It was Pedraza's style, unwillingness to mix it up for long and his boxing smarts that kept him around to the final bell.

Lomachenko would have shined and scored a KO if he had faced the more aggressive, defensively deficient Ray Beltran, as originally expected.

And as some have already opined here, Lomachenko is not the greatest thing since Robinson, despite what the TR/ESPN hype train desperately wants to convince you.

Elite lightweights will seriously challenge him. But outside of Mikey Garcia, are there any true elites in that division?

Cent0089 wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 15:55

SenorPipino wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 14:46 Lomachenko is fast, accurate and has some pop in his shots.

But he's not a true KO puncher.

At 135, don't expect him to stop any of the top division fighters.

I don't believe that the shoulder surgery hindered Lomachenko's performance.

It was Pedraza's style, unwillingness to mix it up for long and his boxing smarts that kept him around to the final bell.

Lomachenko would have shined and scored a KO if he had faced the more aggressive, defensively deficient Ray Beltran, as originally expected.

And as some have already opined here, Lomachenko is not the greatest thing since Robinson, despite what the TR/ESPN hype train desperately wants to convince you.

Elite lightweights will seriously challenge him. But outside of Mikey Garcia, are there any true elites in that division?

Agree. Im going to add my opinion. Pedraza was perfect oponent for comeback fight. Earned that fight with victory over Beltran, came to fight well prepared in terms of conditioning and does not come only for paycheck. His excellent footwork was hard to figure out. Lomachenko was still able to win all rounds (i can give 10th to Pedraza) . Elites are Berchelt and [/b]Davis, i wanna see that :) . Unfortunately there are some talks about Anthony Crolla Bullsh-t.

TheGingerBomber wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 11:31 Pedraza’s ability and gameplan made Loma look tentative. Credit to him, his feints and switching made for an interesting fight for most of it.