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AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 08:23
by Connor19996
Has it actually happened

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 08:26
by dagilechia
only AJ's and Wilder's teams know that for sure. I personally doubt it happened.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 08:53
by Connor19996
Okay cheers dude

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21
by keirw
Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
by dagilechia
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55
by dickbelden
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 13:02
by dagilechia
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
as far as i know AJ was guaranteed £20 million.

i guess that Fury vs Wilder UK PPV generated much less than what was generated but almost selling out Wembley. probably Fury vs Wilder UK PPV + gate generated less than just selling out Wembley.

what would Wilder generate for fighting Povetkin? Joshua will earn about the same for fighting a no hoper like Pulev as Wilder for fighting Fury.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 13:06
by dagilechia
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
btw those numbers just show that if ppv price in USA would be ~$25 boxing would be much more popular and ppv would generate more money, a lot of people just doesn't have access to fights because it's too expensive for them.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 13:22
by dickbelden
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 13:06
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25

Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
btw those numbers just show that if ppv price in USA would be ~$25 boxing would be much more popular and ppv would generate more money, a lot of people just doesn't have access to fights because it's too expensive for them.
both the pacquiao vs mayweather & mcgregor vs mayweather fights charged $100 for usa PPV. they both grossed $500 million PPV worldwide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 13:27
by dagilechia
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 13:22
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 13:06
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55

the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
btw those numbers just show that if ppv price in USA would be ~$25 boxing would be much more popular and ppv would generate more money, a lot of people just doesn't have access to fights because it's too expensive for them.
both the pacquiao vs mayweather & mcgregor vs mayweather fights charged $100 for usa PPV. they both grossed $500 million PPV worldwide.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-per-view
FMJ vs Pac/McGregor were huge fights and those fights shouldn't be compared to any other fights, don't you think that regular ppv fights should charge significantly less than FMJ vs Pac/McGregor? imo it would make sense.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 13:35
by dickbelden
if u buy 1 year @ a time u can now pay $4/month for ESPN+ fights on ur computer,ipad or iPhone.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:46
by keirw
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
He is a long way off earning what Joshua does, but that doesn't mean he isn't in a position to earn a lot of money.

he could well negotiate a 40% split with Joshua to fight him in April at Wembley, but if he fight Fury in Vegas instead he would still be looking at 8 figures.

Even if he fights Brezeale, he would expect to get 1-2 million, not bad for a fight he would be a huge favourite in.
Also, the Joshua and Fury fights will still be there afterwards.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:48
by oogiebe
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:46
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
He is a long way off earning what Joshua does, but that doesn't mean he isn't in a position to earn a lot of money.

he could well negotiate a 40% split with Joshua to fight him in April at Wembley, but if he fight Fury in Vegas instead he would still be looking at 8 figures.

Even if he fights Brezeale, he would expect to get 1-2 million, not bad for a fight he would be a huge favourite in.
Also, the Joshua and Fury fights will still be there afterwards.
:TU:

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:50
by jamamb
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
i thought aj vs pov broke the previous 1.2m record? also you trimmed like 50 cents off the aj vs pov cost which does add up over 1.2m buys

those werent the actual fighter payments either btw

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 18:52
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:50
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25

Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
i thought aj vs pov broke the previous 1.2m record? also you trimmed like 50 cents off the aj vs pov cost which does add up over 1.2m buys

those werent the actual fighter payments either btw
Need to add in the UK numbers for Fury wilder for this to be total revenue. I'm not sure what any of this proves, but numbers are numbers.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 19:39
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:52
jamamb wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:50
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55

the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
i thought aj vs pov broke the previous 1.2m record? also you trimmed like 50 cents off the aj vs pov cost which does add up over 1.2m buys

those werent the actual fighter payments either btw
Need to add in the UK numbers for Fury wilder for this to be total revenue. I'm not sure what any of this proves, but numbers are numbers.
It proves they were both fights that generated a lot of money but by different means. Plenty of money in a Wilder v Fury rematch for both fighters. They can make decent money and increase their exposure fighting each other so don't need to accept the thin edge of the wedge fighting Joshua at Wembley with lots of other concessions at this time. That can wait.

Making the rematch is a smart move at this time. It's a little bit like Bowe and Holyfield having their fights while Lewis was also on the scene.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 19:43
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 19:39
oogiebe wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:52
jamamb wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:50

i thought aj vs pov broke the previous 1.2m record? also you trimmed like 50 cents off the aj vs pov cost which does add up over 1.2m buys

those werent the actual fighter payments either btw
Need to add in the UK numbers for Fury wilder for this to be total revenue. I'm not sure what any of this proves, but numbers are numbers.
It proves they were both fights that generated a lot of money but by different means. Plenty of money in a Wilder v Fury rematch for both fighters. They can make decent money and increase their exposure fighting each other so don't need to accept the thin edge of the wedge fighting Joshua at Wembley with lots of other concessions at this time. That can wait.

Making the rematch is a smart move at this time. It's a little bit like Bowe and Holyfield having their fights while Lewis was also on the scene.
I'm all for the rematch. I just don't get fans arguing who makes what, etc. Also comparing number of PPV's when one country is at 1/3 of other country's price and folks arguing how the number of views was more for this than that without taking total dollars into the equation, as is the case above.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 19:47
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 19:43
ewenhay wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 19:39
oogiebe wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:52
Need to add in the UK numbers for Fury wilder for this to be total revenue. I'm not sure what any of this proves, but numbers are numbers.
It proves they were both fights that generated a lot of money but by different means. Plenty of money in a Wilder v Fury rematch for both fighters. They can make decent money and increase their exposure fighting each other so don't need to accept the thin edge of the wedge fighting Joshua at Wembley with lots of other concessions at this time. That can wait.

Making the rematch is a smart move at this time. It's a little bit like Bowe and Holyfield having their fights while Lewis was also on the scene.
I'm all for the rematch. I just don't get fans arguing who makes what, etc. Also comparing number of PPV's when one country is at 1/3 of other country's price and folks arguing how the number of views was more for this than that without taking total dollars into the equation, as is the case above.

Yeah I know it's all bollocks.

They're more interested in Joshua's payslip than his boxing

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 14 Dec 2018, 19:54
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 19:47
oogiebe wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 19:43
ewenhay wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 19:39

It proves they were both fights that generated a lot of money but by different means. Plenty of money in a Wilder v Fury rematch for both fighters. They can make decent money and increase their exposure fighting each other so don't need to accept the thin edge of the wedge fighting Joshua at Wembley with lots of other concessions at this time. That can wait.

Making the rematch is a smart move at this time. It's a little bit like Bowe and Holyfield having their fights while Lewis was also on the scene.
I'm all for the rematch. I just don't get fans arguing who makes what, etc. Also comparing number of PPV's when one country is at 1/3 of other country's price and folks arguing how the number of views was more for this than that without taking total dollars into the equation, as is the case above.

Yeah I know it's all bollocks.

They're more interested in Joshua's payslip than his boxing
Like they'll be getting a cut? LMFAO! A$$es.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 15 Dec 2018, 01:29
by dickbelden
jamamb wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 18:50
dickbelden wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 12:55
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25

Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
the uk PPV price was $19.95 pounds=$25 X 1.113 million= $28 million---for joshua vs povetkin
the usa PPV price was $74.99---$74.99 x .325 million=$24 million---for fury vs wilder
the fury vs wilder fight was also on uk PPV---those figures will b announced soon
the joshua vs povetkin fight was NOT on usa PPV
i thought aj vs pov broke the previous 1.2m record? also you trimmed like 50 cents off the aj vs pov cost which does add up over 1.2m buys

those werent the actual fighter payments either btw
i used today's rate of exchange pound= $1.26- of course, the pound has been higher in the past.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 15 Dec 2018, 02:04
by Stuarty
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
AJ earns the big bucks! So what? AJ could earn more for fighting David Price than Fury and Wilder would in a rematch! Hearn has made AJ a brand! He's done an amazing job!

You could have a small cafe that does the best burgers in town! All the best ingredients, personal service, top quality food! Then you could have a McDs right next door! The brand will outsell the quality all day! Doesn't mean it's a better product!

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 15 Dec 2018, 02:22
by dagilechia
Stuarty wrote: 15 Dec 2018, 02:04
dagilechia wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:25
keirw wrote: 14 Dec 2018, 10:21 Wilder is in a very good position, he could make a fortune vs Joshua, a slightly smaller fortune vs Fury or a much smaller (but far from insignificant) purse fighting his mandatory.
Wilder for Fury rematch will earn less than Joshua for fighting Pulev... Wilder and Fury combined earned less than Joshua for fighting Povetkin
AJ earns the big bucks! So what? AJ could earn more for fighting David Price than Fury and Wilder would in a rematch! Hearn has made AJ a brand! He's done an amazing job!

You could have a small cafe that does the best burgers in town! All the best ingredients, personal service, top quality food! Then you could have a McDs right next door! The brand will outsell the quality all day! Doesn't mean it's a better product!
What i meant is just that Wilder of course is in good position but AJ is still in a much better position. And Joshua imo is a better product.

Re: AJ REALLY BEGGING WILDER FOR FIGHT AT WEMBLEY??

Posted: 16 Dec 2018, 07:40
by candyslim
Begging for the fight, eh?

Does that mean he's not running anymore? :roll: